Moving forward: We need to do something about Gore

[Meatloaf63]

1 hour ago, Mojo44 said:

 If Singleterry goes down, who do you want to replace him as the number one running back? I know who I want, Gore. It would not be a great situation but he would be the best option. Consequently he needs to be active and, yes, he needs touches. He is still getting some tough yards on a lot of his carries. The OP overstates the case.

Yes that 1.5 yard per carry would devastate the opposition???

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

1 hour ago, the skycap said:

I say wrap him in bubble wrap until the playoffs. Bring up Yeldon and let him get his feet wet

 

I’d like to see Perry get a few touches on offense too. He’s the fastest RB on the team. 

[Process]

59 minutes ago, Buffarukus said:

yea sorry. i was acctually happy to see gore come in yesterday. the fumbling could have lost us the game and gore isnt a worldbeater but hes dependable to grind yards out after first contact and wont fumble...thats what you need in close games to control clock and churn out a hard fought first down. 

there is no situation currently where gore would be considered a preferred rb...beginning of the game,...end of the game.... up by 400 or 4

 

we need to keep him off the field

[Meatloaf63]

4 minutes ago, Watkins90 said:

Guys, Gore had a few great runs last night. He had several carries over five yards. The problem is, he needs to be taken out once he gets a carry like that. He can't have back-to-back carries. 

Several? Like two, he gains 15 yards on 10 carries , most of this on two carries, averaging less than a yard on 8 of those carries. The best you can say is he didn’t fumble....

[Augie]

1 hour ago, Kirby Jackson said:

He just can’t get carries anymore. He’s a warrior. He’s going to the HOF. He’s great in the locker room. He just can’t play football anymore.

 

I’ll give him a few carries without fumbling before we start taking a knee. NEVER have I wanted to see us taking a knee to end the game than during this next game. 

[JROC INTEL]

Gore is important on this team right now. He's the same player that averaged 5 yards a carry earlier this season. Great ball security, effort. I haven't seen him make a mistake . 

 

I agree they need to stop running him to the outside however.

[947]

CJ Anderson was signed by the Rams last year about this time (Dec 18th), and they rode him to the Superbowl. He just so happens to be a free agent right now, and is only 28.

 

Gore looked pretty good the first half of the season, but he's completely worn down. Aside from ball security, he isn't giving us anything at this point. Anderson would be the hammer we need.

 

Oh, and CJ Anderson has only fumbled 4 times in 7 seasons...

Edited December 17, 2019 by 947

[Florida Bills Fanatic]

51 minutes ago, KD in CA said:

What needs to be done is to stop calling off tackle runs for him.  He still seems ok up the middle.

I agree. He's pretty good on the inside trap plays because he hits the hole without hesitation.  When he is forced to turn his shoulders, he lacks the speed to get to the outside.

[Best Williams Available]

I’m not defending Gore but how much of this is on the OC? If Gore is in he’s getting the ball. The whole D knows it. They shoot every gap and there’s no hole to run through so he bounces it outside (makes matters worse, but instinct). Seems like an opportunity for a crafty play designer and caller to keep the D honest, IMO.

[CommonCents]

1 hour ago, dayman said:

Frankly speaking, it's a gory situation.

No. 

[Yav]

2 hours ago, the skycap said:

I say wrap him in bubble wrap until the playoffs. Bring up Yeldon and let him get his feet wet

No. Yeldon should never see the field. He fumbles way too much and Gore is better. 

[Lionel Hutz]

He seems like a nice guy and has had an impressive career, but he is finished. He shouldn’t be on the playoff roster. 

 

10 carries for 15 yards is horrible. 

[VW82]

I think he's perfectly suited or a back up RB in short yardage situations. Problems arise when you start running him on wide sweeps in the red zone (or anywhere really). KISS

[Penfield45]

we need to do something about Brian Daboll 

 

we have little to no progression of the offense under him. Allen still looks like he doesn't fit this offense (despite us winning). sadly he will still be here next season but I doubt he is the future here. 

[Brianmoorman4jesus]

1 hour ago, Watkins90 said:

Guys, Gore had a few great runs last night. He had several carries over five yards. The problem is, he needs to be taken out once he gets a carry like that. He can't have back-to-back carries. 

He had 10 carries for 15 yards. He was atrocious all night and is an automatic 3 and out when he carries the ball early in a drive. I don’t know what some people are seeing. 10 carries....15 yards.

In the last 3 games gore has 23 carries for 32 yards. That’s not a joke. That’s what he’s actually doing. It’s over. Do something now while we have 2 free weeks to experiment 

[NewEra]

He’s not just here to be a RB.  
 

I agree.  I can’t stand it when I see him on the field.  

Just realize....he’ll be getting 5-10 carries a game for the rest of the season

[Dr.Sack]

Yeldon is a good back, but Gore can pass protect & get 1 yard consistently. 

[HappyDays]

I'd be okay giving Gore a couple "veteran rest days" to close out the regular season and see what Yeldon looks like in this offense over the next 2 weeks. We literally have nothing to lose.

[Dr.Sack]

35 minutes ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said:

He had 10 carries for 15 yards. He was atrocious all night and is an automatic 3 and out when he carries the ball early in a drive. I don’t know what some people are seeing. 10 carries....15 yards.

In the last 3 games gore has 23 carries for 32 yards. That’s not a joke. That’s what he’s actually doing. It’s over. Do something now while we have 2 free weeks to experiment 

If we put him on ice I’m not sure he ever de-thaws. Better to keep pounding him forward 1, 2, -3, 3 yards at a time. He goes in when we need to grind & the D knows we are running. At this point his purpose is to give Singletary a break & let the young buck rest. 

[Brianmoorman4jesus]

Finding a running back is easy. That’s why none of them get paid. The only thing you want is for the guy to not be old. Marcus Murphy is a FA, he knows the system and he’s better then Gore by a ton at this stage. Bring him back.

[Augie]

Just now, HappyDays said:

I'd be okay giving Gore a couple "veteran rest days" to close out the regular season and see what Yeldon looks like in this offense over the next 2 weeks. We literally have nothing to lose.

 

Except the ball. One thing I feel good about with Gore is he will not fumble. He will NOT win you the game, but he won’t lose it in crunch time. I get being excited by another guy who has more receiving capabilities, but I prefer Gore to close a game. 

 

I’ll trust our guys to decide. 

[JoshAllin]

motors specialty is at the goaline, using gore for this just hurts the team at this point

[HappyDays]

4 minutes ago, Augie said:

 

Except the ball. One thing I feel good about with Gore is he will not fumble. He will NOT win you the game, but he won’t lose it in crunch time. I get being excited by another guy who has more receiving capabilities, but I prefer Gore to close a game. 

 

I’ll trust our guys to decide. 

 

I don't know why people think Yeldon has some kind of fumbling problem. He fumbled once this year and once last year. Admittedly that is on relatively few touches. But at least I know with the ball in his hands he can gain positive yardage. Gore has 2.32 YPC over the last 7 weeks. 1.39 YPC over the last 3 weeks. He's done. The only reason I can think to keep him on the field is for pass protection. When we run the ball with him we are wasting a down.

 

I'm just saying I wouldn't mind seeing what Yeldon brings to the table. Why not? I want to see us experiment the last 2 weeks. Let's see how Duke Williams looks in this offense. Let's run a bunch of deep throws to Foster just for fun.

[Augie]

2 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

I don't know why people think Yeldon has some kind of fumbling problem. He fumbled once this year and once last year. Admittedly that is on relatively few touches. But at least I know with the ball in his hands he can gain positive yardage. Gore has 2.32 YPC over the last 7 weeks. 1.39 YPC over the last 3 weeks. He's done. The only reason I can think to keep him on the field is for pass protection. When we run the ball with him we are wasting a down.

 

I'm just saying I wouldn't mind seeing what Yeldon brings to the table. Why not? I want to see us experiment the last 2 weeks. Let's see how Duke Williams looks in this offense. Let's run a bunch of deep throws to Foster just for fun.

 

I get it, I want to see what we have. I also want to keep doing what’s working. I’ll trust the guys “we” pay to make these decisions. They know more about football than I ever will, and they are in the locker room and know the people involved. I’m good with whatever they decide. 

[Marv's Neighbor]

4 hours ago, bmur66 said:

It would be a good time to roll out the rugby dude. JK

He's not eligible till next season.

[dpberr]

At this point, RB2 needs to be fresh legs, and those aren't his legs.  

 

[racketmaster]

14 hours ago, Green Lightning said:

Obviously they don't trust Yeldon or else he would have active the last couple games

If that is the case, why keep Yeldon on the team. I would prefer to just play Yeldon over Gore but if the team does not trust Yeldon they should grab another rb off the street like Alex Collins. Gore is completely shot and he kills drives when he is in the game because the defense does not respect his ability as a receiver and he can only run in between the tackles. He is averaging about 2 yards per carry over the past 7 games and just about any rb on the street will be an upgrade. I like Gore and also believe he should remain on the team but this offense is already challenged at wr and we cannot afford to have such a limited option at the number 2 rb spot. Most good teams can roll quality rbs but at this point we cannot afford to take Singletary off the field even when he is fumbling because there is a massive dropoff between he and Gore. 

[Watkins90]

11 hours ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said:

He had 10 carries for 15 yards. He was atrocious all night and is an automatic 3 and out when he carries the ball early in a drive. I don’t know what some people are seeing. 10 carries....15 yards.

In the last 3 games gore has 23 carries for 32 yards. That’s not a joke. That’s what he’s actually doing. It’s over. Do something now while we have 2 free weeks to experiment 

Again, he had some nice carries, but those get overshadowed by all the negative carries. If I remember correctly, he was usually effective on his first carry, but if he was given back to back carries, he would be stuffed on the second one. Just give him the one carry to give Motor a quick breather and then bring Motor back in. There is a way for Gore to be successful, he just has to be used properly. 

[racketmaster]

2 minutes ago, Watkins90 said:

Again, he had some nice carries, but those get overshadowed by all the negative carries. If I remember correctly, he was usually effective on his first carry, but if he was given back to back carries, he would be stuffed on the second one. Just give him the one carry to give Motor a quick breather and then bring Motor back in. There is a way for Gore to be successful, he just has to be used properly. 

This tells me everything I need to know. If my backup rb can’t come in and run the ball effectively on consecutive plays then what would happen if Singletary went down with injury? We would be in serious trouble with Gore running the show and everyone knows it. The only reason he has not been replaced is for leadership and that he falls down after gaining a yard or two without fumbling and for some reason he gets praised for that. 

[ChasBB]

Nothing needs to happen with Gore for the remainder of this season.  The guy will be 37 next May.  He's done exactly what he was brought here to do - be a veteran presence to mentor our young backs and chip in some tough yards here & there.  If he has taught Singletary how to take care of his body and play in the league for many seasons, it will pay dividends in future seasons to the Buffalo organization.  Also, his contract hasn't broken the bank, either.  Gore was a good add!  Does he have another season in him?  Probably not.  I'd like to see Bills rest him next couple of weeks so he's fresh for the Super Bowl run when the playoffs start.  It'll be good to have a veteran on-hand for the playoff run.

 

Instead of complaining "he's not the back he was", look at the positives he has brought to the team and show this man some respect in what will likely the final (hopefully 6) remaining games of his great career.  He's earned that.

[scribo]

I, for one, am damn proud Frank Gore is on the team I love and tell everyone about. 

 

 

[ny33]

If we lose to the Pats, give Yeldon 30 carries vs. the Jets and the balance to Perry. Have Foster and Duke take the majority of snaps with Sweeney, etc. 

[BuffaloButt]

On 12/16/2019 at 5:40 PM, Green Lightning said:

Obviously they don't trust Yeldon or else he would have active the last couple games

Yeldon=Fumbulitis!!

[Buffalo Barbarian]

Yeah, he needs more carriers.

 

 

[Kelly the Dog]

I still think he’s valuable this year. It’s ridiculous to run him off tackle. Or if you need a bunch of yards. But 3rd or 4th needing a couple yards he's very good. Plus he still hurts defenders. I wouldn't use him as much as we do, but he's a valuable cog. 

[Prickly Pete]

If they subtract negative yardage from his totals, Gore might move back down to 4th on the All-Time list....

 

 

1 hour ago, Kelly the Dog said:

I still think he’s valuable this year. It’s ridiculous to run him off tackle. Or if you need a bunch of yards. But 3rd or 4th needing a couple yards he's very good. Plus he still hurts defenders. I wouldn't use him as much as we do, but he's a valuable cog. 

 

 

No, he isn't. There are RB's that are on the street that could do what he is doing, and better.

He is NOT a "valuable cog"...not at all.

 

He is a liability because they can't give Singletary a breather without sending Gore out to waste a down or two.

There are guys on practice squads that are much better.

[Freddie's Dead]

Frank Gore doesn't fumble.  You need that on the goal line.  If he gets a block, he'll be in.  Just ask Ryan Connelly of the New York Giants.

 

 

 

Edited December 18, 2019 by Freddie's Dead

[Call_Of_Ktulu]

On 12/16/2019 at 8:17 PM, Brianmoorman4jesus said:

If Singletary gets hurt I want Yeldon to be the RB. I don’t want to see Gore get another carry unless it’s a 1 yd TD in garbage time of a super bowl win. The guy is done

If Singletary gets hurt we are the most one dimensional team in football. I’ve said it before, you could release Gore and Yeldon right now and they would go through waivers unsigned.

 

Wade should definitely be the backup RB right now. One of very few mistakes made by this staff but it could end up biting us in the Ass.

Other teams know Gore doesn’t have the speed or burst to get to the outside. We will run it up the middle and the other team will stack the middle. 

[Stallions]

I've never seen an NFL team in contention for the SB with such a weak RB roster.  It's incredible.  One small guy is expected to carry the load. I think it's very shortsighted and stupid.

[Motorin']

Yeldon would be a good compliment at this point.