davefan66 Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Scott7975 said: They also have the corners capable of effectively running cover 0 if they are all playing. We have not done so well against that thus far. Though it is a good test for our upcoming rematch against the Ravens. They can be beat. We have Brown who is fast and can get off the line quick. Needs to get open faster and on slants that take advantage of the space behind the LOS. Beasley is shifty and small, needs to work with Josh on finding the open space, quickly. Singletary on draws or screen passes - again beat the rush. i don’t know if our offense is mature enough to do all of this, but to advance against the pats or ravens, they gotta figure it out. Lost to the both of them and really could have won either game. Edited December 16, 2019 by davefan66 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 This is the rare opportunity to truly play fearless against the Pats. I would love to see them really test the patriots’ secondary. Maybe the refs for once Will keep Gilmore honest on all his illegal contact too. would love to see the Bills get Knox and Duke our there on some 1 on 1s to outmuscle their DBs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 1 hour ago, Jobot said: Only way the Bills win the division is by beating the Patriots and knocking Brady out from playing week-17. Sounds like a plan! In 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Boo Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 The defense will hold their own, the offense will have to play their best game of the year. I don't see it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 1 minute ago, Chicken Boo said: The defense will hold their own, the offense will have to play their best game of the year. I don't see it. Well the offense played its worse game of the year against them last time. We lost by a blocked punt. The will definitely need to play better this time around. Probably even better than they played last night, but best game of the year? I don't think that will be required against the Pats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Williams Available Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 1 hour ago, May Day 10 said: even if they dont get help from Miami, the Bills could totally undermine New England's season and Superbowl hopes by beating them Sunday. Maybe Fitzy will do us a huge solid week 17? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real McClappy Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 Bills have zero to lose at this phase. Daboll better open that playbook up big time. There is no reason to play conservative in this game on O or D. Break Brady apart on D. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cd1 Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Sharky7337 said: I'm all for optimism, but takes likes this make us bills fans look out of touch with reality. Apparently you have not watched many Cheatriots games this season. The Pats have been looking very pedestrian this year! Pressure Brady and neutralize Edelman = WIN! Edited December 16, 2019 by cd1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalo2218 Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, JoshAllenHasBigHands said: This is wrong. Conservatism just means you do not take unnecessary chances. Playing aggressive offense against the best defenses in the league is like playing with fire. Why would you put the ball in jeopardy against the #1 turnover team in the NFL? The only way the Steelers could have won last night is if they got a bunch of turnovers. The Bills were smart not to give them that chance. It is the same thing against the Patriots. Far from the same thing against the Patriots because there won’t be any rookie QB to harass. Brady may have lost a step but compared to Hodges, he’s Brady in his prime. You can bet being conservative in this game won’t get the Bills anywhere close to a win Edited December 16, 2019 by buffalo2218 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloMatt Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, Like A Mofo said: It feels like New England is that older great champion boxer, towards the end of his career and is on the ropes, getting hit high and low and can be KO'ed with some big hits. Time for Buffalo and others to deliver the final blows. Unless you are George Foreman (NE) knocking out Michael Moore (Rest of League). The Beating Foreman took was brutal and his face shows it. . . UNTIL. . . New Heavyweight Champ and everyone buys an electric grill. Edited December 16, 2019 by BuffaloMatt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshAllenHasBigHands Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 4 minutes ago, buffalo2218 said: Far from the same thing against the Patriots because there won’t be any rookie QB to harass. Brady may have lost a step but compared to Hodges, he’s Brady in his prime. You can bet being conservative in this game won’t get the Bills anywhere close to a win Not exactly the same thing, but that attitude is based on reputation, not scouting. Brady this year is not the Brady of past. But you are right, he is smarter than Hodges and that is an element to take into consideration. I just think that even with that in mind, you still play conservative. If you get aggressive against that defense, you will have turnovers and you will end up playing from behind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalo2218 Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 Just now, JoshAllenHasBigHands said: Not exactly the same thing, but that attitude is based on reputation, not scouting. Brady this year is not the Brady of past. But you are right, he is smarter than Hodges and that is an element to take into consideration. I just think that even with that in mind, you still play conservative. If you get aggressive against that defense, you will have turnovers and you will end up playing from behind. I don’t mean aggressive as in taking deep shots, but mainly don’t be content with a narrow lead if an opportunity presents itself to put points on the board. I know how good our defense is, but at some point, our offense needs to provide its own spark and keep the pressure off our defense. But perhaps our run game can be established early. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r00tabaga Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 Even @Billsfan1972 agrees. ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 Make the Pats go on long drives of 75 yards. Make Brady throw to anyone really, he is below average at this point in the season and the colder it is the worse he plays. Hit him early and often. I wouldn’t mind a 15 yard personal foul hit on him early that sends the message, ‘you are getting hit tonight old man’. Rush four guys and pressure Brady with four, sprinkle in some blitzes. Block everyone on punt team. Don’t throw up Duck balls for Gilmore to pick off. Someone better hit Jonathan Jones hard for the Allen play. Pound the rock down their throats. Allen and Beasley have a big night. Brady is crying at halftime and yelling at people. Belichick breaks his tablet because he can’t cheat his way to another SB. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshAllenHasBigHands Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 14 minutes ago, buffalo2218 said: I don’t mean aggressive as in taking deep shots, but mainly don’t be content with a narrow lead if an opportunity presents itself to put points on the board. I know how good our defense is, but at some point, our offense needs to provide its own spark and keep the pressure off our defense. But perhaps our run game can be established early. If you have a lead, and if the other teams offense is struggling, and the other teams defense is a dominant unit, you do not put the ball in the air or in a dangerous position for more points. You run the clock and put the onus on the struggling offense to make a play. It is a basic match-up. For example, if you are on offense, and you see Stephon Gilmore on the right side and an UDFA on the left side, and you absolutely need to make a play to win the game, you do not throw the ball to Gilmore, you throw to the UDFA. Same thing on a grander scale here. Trying to "put points on the board" is like throwing to Gilmore when you can just throw to the UDFA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 would love a bunch of short routes to Beasley, Knox, and Singletary/Gore running. Knox only had like 1 target yesterday, 10 yard gain for a first down. Anyway, beat the Pats like they used to beat us with dink and dunk and stellar D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pokebball Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 4 hours ago, dtgolder said: Think the Bills will absolutely light up NE on Saturday. For the past 3 games, Bills have been feeling the pressure of making the playoffs - some tentative play, some missed opportunities, etc. -- but overall great wins and now playoff bound. All that pressure is now gone - and Bills are also in a celebration mode, want to have a chance at the division, and also to continue to showcase their progress on the national stage, and a bit of payback from the earlier game this year. Add all that up and I think NE is toast - and think this also becomes that truly "breakout" game for Josh - Going to be fun to watch - Go Bills! Boy, wouldn't that be a nice way to put a bow on this season. Couldn't think of a better way to pass the AFC East torch to the new leader. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 Going to be another dogfight. And has been the case the last few weeks another statement game for Josh and the team. If good Josh shows up they can absolutely win the game. If bad Josh is there I’m not a fan of our chances. Patriots are just too smart they are not going to beat themselves. I would love to see a strong run game and dominant time of possession. Leave Brady on the sidelines and cold and keep our D fresh and aggressive. Loving the excitement of huge games in December with major playoff implications though. Great time to be a Bills fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da webster guy Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 4 hours ago, Sharky7337 said: I'm all for optimism, but takes likes this make us bills fans look out of touch with reality. Expecting to win vs a team whose offense we held to 9 points in September isn't out of touch with reality. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1ManRaid Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 I hope so, that's my birthday. I was invited to my mom's house to watch the game there and drink beer while she makes me home made shepherd's pie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 Brady just drops to the ground if pressure is around him. Total self preservation mode Against good teams he is either going to keep doing that and NE gets steamrolled or he stands in there takes hits and doesn't make it through The guy is really banged up already Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 I don't know if we'll light them up facing that defense, but I'll settle for Brady staring out his earhole every possession. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 1 hour ago, r00tabaga said: Even @Billsfan1972 agrees. ???? who spiked his sarsaparilla ?? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 This will be like another Ravens game on offense. Just have to do a better job, and take what’s available. Daboll needs to give Josh answers to the blitzes, and Josh needs to take them. Not getting many zone looks in this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 (edited) I actually think that the Bills are going to play a conservative gameplan against the Pats. I think they leaned that they can't let Josh "loose" against the Pats defense as turnovers will kill them. They also know that Brady and that offense is not what it used to be. This game away is going to be a one possession game, the type of game the Pats win by playing not to lose. Edited December 16, 2019 by billsfan89 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snafu Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 4 hours ago, JimJaime said: The Bills if they are smart will run run and run some more.. throwing it up against their secondary a lot is asking for a game changing mistake. This will be another low scoring affair won by a TD or less I don't think their run D is all that great. i agree, just pound away at them as much as possible. A lot of 2 tight end sets, and bring in Duke Williams, too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharky7337 Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Da webster guy said: Expecting to win vs a team whose offense we held to 9 points in September isn't out of touch with reality. Lighting up the best defense in the league with one of the worst offenses is (23rd). Put the pipe down. People who spew this nonsense make us all as Bill's fans look stupid. We haven't lit anyone up all year. Don't worry Webster dude, go to T.C. Hooligans and pound some more pitchers lol Edited December 16, 2019 by Sharky7337 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 4 hours ago, Jobot said: Only way the Bills win the division is by beating the Patriots and knocking Brady out from playing week-17. I’m good with that, especially the latter part... Go Bills!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 11 minutes ago, Sharky7337 said: Lighting up the best defense in the league with one of the worst offenses is (23rd). Put the pipe down. People who spew this nonsense make us all as Bill's fans look stupid. We haven't lit anyone up all year. Don't worry Webster dude, go to T.C. Hooligans and pound some more pitchers lol Who the hell are you? GTFOH, enjoy your defeatist attitude somewhere else. Go Bills!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 5 hours ago, CLTbills said: Let's go. I think we win this game. I'm not in the least worried about going up there and winning. I stated in another thread... Even if we don't get the division this year, you at the very least can knock the Pats* out of a first-round bye AND you don't allow them to rest their starters against Miami. YES SIR! Important not to give Tommy Boy any rest. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 19 minutes ago, Sharky7337 said: Lighting up the best defense in the league with one of the worst offenses is (23rd). Put the pipe down. People who spew this nonsense make us all as Bill's fans look stupid. We haven't lit anyone up all year. Don't worry Webster dude, go to T.C. Hooligans and pound some more pitchers lol You post like a Pats**** fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dtgolder Posted December 16, 2019 Author Share Posted December 16, 2019 Bottom line for me is the pressure to make the playoffs is gone. Add to that a chance to make up for the loss earlier in the season, and a Pats team that seems vulnerable this year seems to be a perfect storm. Really think the Bills will win convincingly on Sat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Boo Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 (edited) 10 hours ago, Scott7975 said: Well the offense played its worse game of the year against them last time. We lost by a blocked punt. The will definitely need to play better this time around. Probably even better than they played last night, but best game of the year? I don't think that will be required against the Pats. You may he right due to Brady's decline, but that defense is very good. Only top tier QBs have been able to beat them. Edited December 17, 2019 by Chicken Boo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
123719bwiqrb Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 THE PATS ARE GOING DOWN, BARRY! Am I doing this right? It's been >25 years since I got excited like this. I'm all tingly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob in STL Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 Is there a scenario where we play them in the playoffs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Maiden Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 We certainly can win, I don't doubt that...but we are not " lighting them up "....it's in Foxboro and their D is for real......I see a game very similar to last evening.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiva Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 Our offense will have to produce for a full game. One or two good drives is not going to cut it this week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 11 hours ago, Sunshower said: Problem with New England is they have two elite corners followed by an impressive secondary to boot. They can easily remove Smoke and Beezer without any problems and who would be left to throw to? Perhaps Knox? Singletary? Who else? You beat New England by running the ball. Only way Allen has a big game is if he’s running the ball. I see a loss here followed by a win over the Jets. Sorry. Sunshower that's more of a piss shower. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharky7337 Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 (edited) 7 hours ago, Don Otreply said: Who the hell are you? GTFOH, enjoy your defeatist attitude somewhere else. Go Bills!!! Who are you? Being realistic is not being a defeatist. But feel free to get a mental evaluation. 7 hours ago, ColoradoBills said: You post like a Pats**** fan. Na I post like Bill's fan that knows our team and doesn't hallucinate dreams of grandeur. I hope the Bill's win, and I'd love a blowout in our favor, but like Brandon Beane said we are not a finished product. Did you call him a Pat's fan too? Lol Edited December 17, 2019 by Sharky7337 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 40 minutes ago, Bob in STL said: Is there a scenario where we play them in the playoffs? plenty. which seed so you want them to start as? never mind. I’m too tired to figure it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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