Protocal69 Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 Because we made it close at the end. All I am hearing after the game from Ravens fans is how bad they got robbed by the officiating today. If anything we were the ones that got robbed ex Foster no call PI, No 12 men in the huddle penalty, ect 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 What is their argument for bad officiating? I saw one call that was questionable against them, the Earl Thomas unnecessary roughness, while there was like 10 against us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJ Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 3 minutes ago, Protocal69 said: Because we made it close at the end. All I am hearing after the game from Ravens fans is how bad they got robbed by the officiating today. If anything we were the ones that got robbed ex Foster no call PI, No 12 men in the huddle penalty, ect There were terrible calls going both ways. I didn't keep a count on which team got jobbed worse by officiating today. 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvbillsfan Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 Just now, TigerJ said: There were terrible calls going both ways. I didn't keep a count on which team got jobbed worse by officiating today. Agree. I thought the refs were bad both ways. It’s a shame as rich as the NFL is we can’t get better officials. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Protocal69 Posted December 9, 2019 Author Share Posted December 9, 2019 1 minute ago, whatdrought said: What is their argument for bad officiating? I saw one call that was questionable against them, the Earl Thomas unnecessary roughness, while there was like 10 against us. The pass interference call attended for Beasley and the Roughing the passer penalties, ect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VW82 Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 We definitely got some suspect calls in our favor, especially on the final drive. Those were weak personal foul calls and that deep ball to Beasley wasn't catchable, trip or no trip. I understand the case for PI to Foster but ultimately the DB was playing the ball and Josh just threw it up for grabs. You can't expect to get bailed out by the refs in that situation. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 8 minutes ago, wvbillsfan said: Agree. I thought the refs were bad both ways. It’s a shame as rich as the NFL is we can’t get better officials. Definitely. The officiating was bad both ways. I swear these officials were signed two hours before the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 3 minutes ago, VW82 said: We definitely got some suspect calls in our favor, especially on the final drive. Those were weak personal foul calls and that deep ball to Beasley wasn't catchable, trip or no trip. I understand the case for PI to Foster but ultimately the DB was playing the ball and Josh just threw it up for grabs. You can't expect to get bailed out by the refs in that situation. You can say that again! A certain % of the fanbase will be bitching about the refs after every game, forever. It's stupid; it all evens out more or less in the end. The officiating is horrible and it impacts both teams. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vod Kanockers Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 Now that the league has seen the highest ratings on a Thanksgiving in forever, they have somewhat jumped on the bandwagon. The Sunday night flex, etc. Fortunately we should start to see some calls going in our favor. Today was strange, however. They pretty much let them play, until the 4th quarter, where the refs took the game into their own hands... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterpan Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 I thought it was the best reffed game all year. They called it VERY tight, which is fine, and they were CONSISTENT. most the time it's not consistent at all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Protocal69 Posted December 9, 2019 Author Share Posted December 9, 2019 Ravens fans really feel like they should have blown us out. Also its really making me mad that some of their fans were saying Lamar had a bad passing game because of the wind. Last week against the 49ers it was because of the rain. They act like if its not sunny and 65 degrees it is problem. This is not the Arena league 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick the Greek Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 On the last drive, we moved the chains a bunch of times due to penalties. Not saying the refs were wrong, but it happened. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Sack Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 They should be mad that our defense made their offense look pedestrian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallskiWallski83 Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 I thought to myself this was the first game Ive seen in years where I defintely felt like the refs helped us. Thought for a hot minute we were the patriots lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 41 minutes ago, Protocal69 said: The pass interference call attended for Beasley and the Roughing the passer penalties, ect We didn't even score off the Beasley one. Plus it looked like it was probably a legit call or at worst made up for the no call on Foster earlier in the game. They're were a lot of calls against the Ravens on the final drive, but the game was already close at that point anyway and we didn't score on the final possession so i don't get their beef. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 53 minutes ago, wvbillsfan said: Agree. I thought the refs were bad both ways. It’s a shame as rich as the NFL is we can’t get better officials. refs that call everything the Bills way? This is such a stupid topic, and every fan base thinks it is being ripped off the most. hilarious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvbillsfan Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 1 minute ago, row_33 said: refs that call everything the Bills way? See the ops detail Foster non call was a big play 12 men in the huddle on third and goal from the 3. Would’ve been third and goal from the 8 in an obvious passing situation Two very clear examples. Not saying it cost us the game. We had our chances. But their is nothing wrong with wanting the officials to be better. Ravens had calls go against them as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 It was ugly all around. They gifted buffalo some calls at the end to keep it close. First half was in favor of Baltimore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Johnson Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 Yes, there were borderline calls that went in the Bills favor in the 4th quarter. But the missed twelve men in the huddle was HUGE ... Jackson is not a great drop back passer and 3rd and goal from the 8 or 9 vs. 3rd and goal from the 3 or 4 is a massive difference. That's why McDermott was going ballistic on the sideline. That was a 4-pt missed call. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Protocal69 Posted December 9, 2019 Author Share Posted December 9, 2019 19 minutes ago, Flip Johnson said: Yes, there were borderline calls that went in the Bills favor in the 4th quarter. But the missed twelve men in the huddle was HUGE ... Jackson is not a great drop back passer and 3rd and goal from the 8 or 9 vs. 3rd and goal from the 3 or 4 is a massive difference. That's why McDermott was going ballistic on the sideline. That was a 4-pt missed call. Yeah and that was the difference at the end of the game of needing 7 as opposed to 3 to send the game to OT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsfan1972 Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 The PI on Beasley was a no brainer called every time (he was breaking free, interfered & tripped). No idea why that is being questions. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All_Pro_Bills Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 (edited) Ravens fans shouldn't be mad. I thought their offensive line, minus the center, was lined up too far in the backfield on every passing play the entire game. In fact, their positioning pre-snap telegraphed to me almost every run/pass "guess" before the play. The plays it didn't predict could have been audibled out at the line. If the end receiver lined up that far back he'd be called for illegal formation for not being lined up on the line of scrimmage. I know teams cheat a little back for pass protection but not all four guys that far back. I'm no rules expert and maybe I got it wrong but go back and watch the tape and see what you think. Edited December 9, 2019 by All_Pro_Bills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 8 hours ago, Protocal69 said: Because we made it close at the end. All I am hearing after the game from Ravens fans is how bad they got robbed by the officiating today. If anything we were the ones that got robbed ex Foster no call PI, No 12 men in the huddle penalty, ect I mean they got 60 yards in penalties on the final drive...didnt see the 2 personal fouls but the PI was obvious and flagrant...the dude tackled Beasley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 (edited) 8 hours ago, ScottLaw said: Our defense played lights out. Our offense was a disaster. The defense and the refs were the reason the game was even remotely close. Yes, because they weren't helped down the field on two of their scoring drives by a few suspect calls right? The only legit scoring drive they had was the busted coverage by Poyer/Hyde. Stanley was holding Hughes all game long. You could see his shoulder pad up against the side of his helmet about 7 times, with Stanley's hand standing out for all to see because of the red jersey's. We played the hottest team in the NFL close yesterday. We held Lamar pretty much in check and kept him from breaking Vick's rushing record against us. Josh was running for his life all game long. This was Ford's worst performance by far. I know he completely whiffed on his man at least 4 times that I could count watching it on the live broadcast. I expect the All-22 to be even less kind to him this week. Edited December 9, 2019 by H2o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLTbills Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 People that end their thread titles with ........ and then finish their sentence in their post ................ make me really mad. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badassgixxer05 Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Billsfan1972 said: The PI on Beasley was a no brainer called every time (he was breaking free, interfered & tripped). No idea why that is being questions. Some people thought he took a dive, but he was tripped and going down before he threw his head and hands back. He just was making sure the refs saw it and couldnt ignore like the Foster BS play. Why McDermett didn't challenge the Foster one is beyond me. The percentage of winning those is small but at worst you lose 1 timeout. Best and it was 1st and 10 deep in opponents zone. Edited December 9, 2019 by badassgixxer05 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 9 hours ago, Protocal69 said: Because we made it close at the end. All I am hearing after the game from Ravens fans is how bad they got robbed by the officiating today. If anything we were the ones that got robbed ex Foster no call PI, No 12 men in the huddle penalty, ect Based on the 2 or 3 Trolls yesterday with their bad sportsmanship here and at the game I visited in Baltimore last year 3/4 of their fans are idjuts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 9 hours ago, Nextmanup said: You can say that again! A certain % of the fanbase will be bitching about the refs after every game, forever. It's stupid; it all evens out more or less in the end. The officiating is horrible and it impacts both teams. Agree. It was the same in the Thanksgiving game. Yes there were probably more bad calls against the Bills but there were some bad calls on the Cowboys too. The refs aren't corrupt, they are just rubbish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 8 hours ago, Nick the Greek said: On the last drive, we moved the chains a bunch of times due to penalties. Not saying the refs were wrong, but it happened. The PI call was a joke. The ball was so uncatchable that you’d have to be blind to think that it was, and Beasley put on a great acting job to boot. I was happy about the call, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo86 Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 (edited) The Ravens deserved to lose for doing that fake kneeldown at the end of the first half. That was a chickens**t move, IMO. Edited December 9, 2019 by Buffalo86 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanSD Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 (edited) This was a very poorly officiated game, and the calls went both ways. I personally thought the PI on Beasley was extremely soft -- there are professional soccer players who would be embarrassed to flop so blatantly. Then again, Foster was clearly interfered with and that one went uncalled, so I'll happily take it and not feel the least bit guilty. Edited December 9, 2019 by BillsFanSD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 My problem with officiating in general is the horrendous inconsistency. And it's mostly related to a single issue: downfield blocking on short pass plays. For example, in the first half yesterday, there were 3 separate plays during which Baltimore had WRs blocking or OLmen running 2+ yards down the field before the ball crossed the LOS. That's a penalty by rule. It's almost NEVER called, and that's fine...except that it somehow manages to get called against a team that's threatening to score at a critical time. Like against Buffalo during a 4th quarter drive for the game-tying score. Make a decision. It's either a penalty or it's not. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 I felt like the refs were bad both ways. Calling some things they shouldn’t and not calling some things they should. Seemed like the first half was slanted a little Ravens way and second half slanted a little our way. In the end it was pretty even imo. I’ve seen far worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steptide Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 I'd be mad if I was a Ravens fan, but at the end of the day, they won. They won the game so they have nothing to be mad about. As a bills fan, I feel the refs gifted us some chances and the bills couldn't get it done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 18 minutes ago, dave mcbride said: The PI call was a joke. The ball was so uncatchable that you’d have to be blind to think that it was, and Beasley put on a great acting job to boot. I was happy about the call, though. Agree with that. I thought it was PI at the time (was definitely a foul) but when I saw it back an hour after the game I was like..... "yea, that was not catchable." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 9 hours ago, wvbillsfan said: Agree. I thought the refs were bad both ways. It’s a shame as rich as the NFL is we can’t get better officials. 1 word- Unions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 43 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: The refs sucked both ways. The only reason the Bills threatened to tie the game on their last drive was due to suspect flags. Despite the poor line play, Josh missed throws all game. He was wildly inaccurate. He missed some and then he didn't miss some, but they were dropped anyway. If he completes just 4 of the drops I can recall then he has at least another 80+ yards passing and who knows how those drives would have ended because two of the drops would have had us in scoring position. Though he shares some of the blame for the loss, you can't pin it all on him. Yesterday was another missed opportunity, just like the Browns game. Either way, I'm not devastated by the loss because we were in it until the end against the hottest team in the NFL who had been beating the brakes off of everyone outside of SF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlCowlingsTaxiService Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 they have reason to be ... the Bills final drive pretty much was based solely on dubious penalties called on the Ravens, but we KNOW that the refs are secretly paid to make calls against the Bills, right? #sarcasm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 2 minutes ago, AlCowlingsTaxiService said: they have reason to be ... the Bills final drive pretty much was based solely on dubious penalties called on the Ravens, but we KNOW that the refs are secretly paid to make calls against the Bills, right? #sarcasm severely insular fanbases fail to realize that EVERY team's fans are convinced there is a conspiracy against their team teams win 75-0 in college games and their fans whine about the refs helps to get out more than 3 miles from the home you were born in, get some perspective on reality in the real world... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 12 hours ago, Protocal69 said: Because we made it close at the end. All I am hearing after the game from Ravens fans is how bad they got robbed by the officiating today. If anything we were the ones that got robbed ex Foster no call PI, No 12 men in the huddle penalty, ect Yes, they had some suspect calls to their benefit. They also had some calls that were missed - one of the Ravens defenders just picked up JA and body-slammed him after he'd thrown the ball away on the final drive and it wasn't called. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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