mykidsdad Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 I hope we do something GREAT this year, but I still have this nagging feeling we’re a playmaker or two away from being a true contender. I think we need to sign as many of our productive players as we can, including Philips. We also need to draft a corner and build some depth, BUT to me I feel our biggest jump can take place if we add a dynamic number one type wide receiver. I’m trying to think about who that can be, and I’m stumped. It looks like there may NOT be a lot of great options this offseason. I’m just not seeing a lot of eye popping talent. These are the best WR options that may come available: NFL FREE AGENTS Amari Cooper (Dallas may lock him up) Robby Anderson (not a true number one) AJ Green (too old?) DRAFT Jerry Jeudy, ALABAMA (1st rounder, probably gone before we pick) Jalen Reagor, TCU (probably a good chance of grabbing in the 1st) Antonio Gandy-Golden, LU (2nd or 3rd rounder) If we are serious about adding a playmaker we may need to think long and hard about trading for someone. I’m convinced we are a playmaker away from having a top 10 Offense/Defense combination. Who might come available? Fuller in Houston maybe? Diggs or Thielen in Minnesota? And would we want to spend the capitol on a deal? Are there any players or scenarios I’m missing?, ether by way of draft or FA or even trade? I feel like we’re coming into all of this cap space without a lot of good options to spend it on. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 Not all Superstars are top 1st round picks. If you draft well, you should be able to find good WRs in middle rounds especially in a WR-rich draft class. 3 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 Not worried, McBeane will find the right guys for this team. 20 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dkollidas Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 I personally think Shenault from Colorado is tailor made for a Daboll offense. Big at 6’ 2” and 220, but moves like a RB. Lined up for Colorado at outside receiver, in the slot, running back and even as a wildcat QB. He excels in the intermediate areas, playing like a running back if he gets the ball in space. This is an area where Josh’s game has been steadily improving as well, so I could see those two things aligning. I think the answer lies in the draft. You list three draft eligible receivers. Most analysts see this as a big year for receivers, with up to 6 having 1st round round ability and upwards of 12-15 going in the first two rounds. 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 AJ Green on a 3 yr deal front loaded. Then draft front 7 players with first three picks 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mykidsdad Posted December 2, 2019 Author Share Posted December 2, 2019 Is Shenault going to be fast enough? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FeelingOnYouboty Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 2 minutes ago, mykidsdad said: Is Shenault going to be fast enough? 4.4 speed. Thing about Shenault is he always has niggling injuries. One of my pet peeves and after Watkins I want to steer clear of this. This is a great year for WR so I’d love to get one with one of our first two picks. At the moment the guy I’m obsessing over is Brandon Aiyuk-WR Arizona State. Just watch him! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dkollidas Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 1 minute ago, FeelingOnYouboty said: 4.4 speed. Thing about Shenault is he always has niggling injuries. One of my pet peeves and after Watkins I want to steer clear of this. This is a great year for WR so I’d love to get one with one of our first two picks. At the moment the guy I’m obsessing over is Brandon Aiyuk-WR Arizona State. Just watch him! He has had those, I also want to see what our medical staff thinks about it. Is there something that they can do to help him with that? Or is it something he’ll always have limiting him? It sounds like Sammy, but 1) we don’t really know details, and 2) maybe our staff and their ability to somewhat keep injuries limited amongst our players, would benefit him as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 27 minutes ago, Ethan in Portland said: AJ Green on a 3 yr deal front loaded. Then draft front 7 players with first three picks AJ has barely played in 2 years and is on the wrong side of 30- there will be much better options. 4 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 Maybe we should trade for Sammy Watkins. He seems to be tearing it up in KC 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longtimebillsfan Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 Amari Cooper. he is a free agent after the season. We can always make a #1 receiver a priority in the 2020 draft. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 7 minutes ago, longtimebillsfan said: Amari Cooper. he is a free agent after the season. We can always make a #1 receiver a priority in the 2020 draft. He'd be smart to test the free agent market if the Cowboys can't afford to tag him. Limited FA options at WR's would probably lead to a bidding war for him. The Bills would pry have to pay at least 20 to 22 million a year for him with 50 million guaranteed and I don't see Beane willing to do that if he wants to keep our defense intact. I think we target a WR in the 1st or 2nd round. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artem Lipatov Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 1 hour ago, Magox said: Maybe we should trade for Sammy Watkins. He seems to be tearing it up in KC I would give 2 1st round picks for him. Stop. Some Bills GM have done it earlier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 1 hour ago, Doc Brown said: He'd be smart to test the free agent market if the Cowboys can't afford to tag him. Limited FA options at WR's would probably lead to a bidding war for him. The Bills would pry have to pay at least 20 to 22 million a year for him with 50 million guaranteed and I don't see Beane willing to do that if he wants to keep our defense intact. I think we target a WR in the 1st or 2nd round. I can definitely see the Patriots going after him especially if Brady and Bellichek return back for one more season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 This is probably the Best WR class in years. That is where he comes from 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longtimebillsfan Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, Doc Brown said: He'd be smart to test the free agent market if the Cowboys can't afford to tag him. Limited FA options at WR's would probably lead to a bidding war for him. The Bills would pry have to pay at least 20 to 22 million a year for him with 50 million guaranteed and I don't see Beane willing to do that if he wants to keep our defense intact. I think we target a WR in the 1st or 2nd round. You make a good point. Edited December 2, 2019 by longtimebillsfan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 2 hours ago, longtimebillsfan said: Amari Cooper. he is a free agent after the season. We can always make a #1 receiver a priority in the 2020 draft. Probably too too early to talk free agency and the draft, but FWIW, we have a shot at Cooper, and extend the important players. That’s it. Keep this team together. Drop Star, Kraft, and Murphy, and draft in no particular order TE, RB, and a DT, + Harrison Phillips will be back. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 2 hours ago, longtimebillsfan said: Amari Cooper. he is a free agent after the season. We can always make a #1 receiver a priority in the 2020 draft. We have some coin wrapped up in Beasley, Brown, and Kroft. Drafting one may be a better option. Cooper is a damn good receiver but the price tag may be too high. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 I am probably in the minority here, but I do not see the need to spend big $$$ for a free agent WR. We are more than solid with Brown and Beasley, and if Foster returns to and improves on his 2nd half of last season, that's a very good WR core. This takes the pressure off of paying big for a FA and allow us to go after a top WR in a deep draft. I don't know enough details on any of the college guys, but everyone is saying its deep. If that is so, and there aren't many top options in FA, go the draft route. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 (edited) This is reportedly the most talented, and deepest, WR draft class in a long time. We’re getting someone in the 1st or 2nd Round. Edited December 2, 2019 by SCBills 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 The draft is going to be stacked @ WR this year, possibly a historic class of them. I'm not worried about this tbh. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 I'm not too worried about WR, I think that will be addressed in the draft. I am concerned about DE/edge. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auburnbillsbacker Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 3 hours ago, billsfan_34 said: AJ has barely played in 2 years and is on the wrong side of 30- there will be much better options. This is why he might be a bargain. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 23 minutes ago, CSBill said: I am probably in the minority here, but I do not see the need to spend big $$$ for a free agent WR. We are more than solid with Brown and Beasley, and if Foster returns to and improves on his 2nd half of last season, that's a very good WR core. This takes the pressure off of paying big for a FA and allow us to go after a top WR in a deep draft. I don't know enough details on any of the college guys, but everyone is saying its deep. If that is so, and there aren't many top options in FA, go the draft route. I want zero part of this. Wait another year for Foster?? Waiting for Zay’s lightbulb was bad enough. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob in STL Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 While WR is a big need there is no need to force it in round 1. We also need OT and Edge. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 29 minutes ago, auburnbillsbacker said: This is why he might be a bargain. He was wanting a nice contract extension from Cinci while hurt. IMO it just isn’t worth it at this stage of his career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 11 minutes ago, Bob in STL said: While WR is a big need there is no need to force it in round 1. We also need OT and Edge. Buy the Edge much deeper in UFA not sure about OT didn’t look to much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 1 minute ago, ScottLaw said: I hope they don't rely on just the draft to bring in a top WR. why? That’s how a majority of teams do it 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 3 hours ago, Doc Brown said: He'd be smart to test the free agent market if the Cowboys can't afford to tag him. Limited FA options at WR's would probably lead to a bidding war for him. The Bills would pry have to pay at least 20 to 22 million a year for him with 50 million guaranteed and I don't see Beane willing to do that if he wants to keep our defense intact. I think we target a WR in the 1st or 2nd round. This ^^^ Beane, I don’t think is the type to give any player 50 mil guaranteed on top of a yearly salary outside of a QB, just resigning/ extending the players we should will eat up the vast majority of our cap space, and that would include ridding ourselves of one TE, and one D lineman...I think we all know who those two will be. Go Bills!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 (edited) 4 hours ago, Magox said: Maybe we should trade for Sammy Watkins. He seems to be tearing it up in KC him being a decoy (on the bench mostly) is what allows that offense to function!!! Just you wait, he's only had guys like McVay and Reid coaching him. They aren't known for being great offensive minds. Edited December 2, 2019 by jeremy2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayjent Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 Lots of options in the draft. I like Justin Jefferson from LSU, Tee Higgins from Clemson and Terry from FSU - WRs that go after the ball with body control and size. The kind of guys that move the chains and can make contested catches. The draft isn't full of blazing speed WRs(there are a few), but it is deep with good solid WR prospects. DaVonte Smith could also be one of those guys who is a solid choice in the 2nd or 3rd round and is pretty good route runner and runner after the catch. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreboding Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 Draft. Dawson Knox is set to become a star next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Junction Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 52 minutes ago, Don Otreply said: This ^^^ Beane, I don’t think is the type to give any player 50 mil guaranteed on top of a yearly salary outside of a QB, just resigning/ extending the players we should will eat up the vast majority of our cap space, and that would include ridding ourselves of one TE, and one D lineman...I think we all know who those two will be. Go Bills!!! He made an offer for Mack, so he’ll pay for edge players as well if the talent/production is there. I doubt he pays big money for a WR though unless it’s high end homegrown talent. I could see him paying a high number for a 1-2 year contract though as there’s flexibility with Allen on a rookie contract. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 2 hours ago, Happy Gilmore said: I'm not too worried about WR, I think that will be addressed in the draft. I am concerned about DE/edge. If it were up to me, i'm re-signing Jordan Phillips and Shaq Lawson, cutting Trent Murphy and then drafting an EDGE in the 2nd Round. Making a run at a pass rushing LB to replace Lorax if he retires. Hughes/Draft Pick Star/Harry Oliver/Phillips Shaq/FA Pass Rushing LB 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Buffalo Junction said: He made an offer for Mack, so he’ll pay for edge players as well if the talent/production is there. I doubt he pays big money for a WR though unless it’s high end homegrown talent. I could see him paying a high number for a 1-2 year contract though as there’s flexibility with Allen on a rookie contract. We could do something like that, but it’s a numbers game, how do we resign/ extend the players we should and have that much cash left over? As I was saying to resign/ extend the players we should, our cap space is almost gone. Go Bills!!! Edited December 2, 2019 by Don Otreply Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 To further expand on the WR's available in this upcoming draft: https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2864432-ranking-the-top-10-wide-receivers-of-potentially-historic-2020-nfl-draft-class This list also leaves off the likes of: Chase Claypool/ ND / 6'5" 228lbs Tamorrion Terry / FSU / 6'4" 205lbs Tyler Johnson / Minnesota / 6'2" 200lbs Collin Johnson / Texas / 6'4" 220lbs Bryan Edwards / South Carolina / 6'3" 220lbs There are a bunch of big, fast, and legit NFL caliber prospects @ WR for this upcoming draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 We should have drafted DK Metcalf put he can't rush the quarterback Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Junction Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 16 minutes ago, Don Otreply said: We could do something like that, but it’s a numbers game, how do we resign/ extend the players we should and have that much cash left over? As I was saying to resign/ extend the players we should, our cap space is almost gone. Go Bills!!! It’s all about value. A top DE makes Shaq and Murphy expendable. If I had to bet I’d put money on Beane going after a value veteran WR to pair with Brown and a rookie WR, pay for a DE and let Shaq and/ Murphy walk, or sign a pass rushing LBer to replace Alexander when he retires. I have faith. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoTier Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 1 hour ago, billsfan_34 said: We have some coin wrapped up in Beasley, Brown, and Kroft. Drafting one may be a better option. Cooper is a damn good receiver but the price tag may be too high. The problem is that the draft is a crap-shoot and that's especially true for WRs. Moreover, it can easily take 2 or 3 years to develop a NFL WR. The Bills can't afford to wait that long to get a WR1 if they want to take advantage of Allen's rookie contract. 1 hour ago, auburnbillsbacker said: This is why he might be a bargain. I think that AJ Green would be a good target for the Bills. Because he's older and coming off injury, he should be affordable, and he's always been incredibly sure-handed. This signing would also allow the Bills to draft and develop a young WR. 27 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: why? That’s how a majority of teams do it ^^^ Just now, ScottLaw said: Because they need at least two in my opinion and you back to square one with a Zay Jones esque rookie performance at the position next year.... it takes time to adjust to the NFL, the Bills are better served with an immediate veteran playmaker considering where the team is at now and where they should be at next year. This is exactly my thought. I wouldn't be opposed to pursuing Cooper but I think Green is a more realistic target. I would prefer that the Bills not trade for a WR1 but for the right price, it would be better than gambling on the draft. Fans who think that the Bills don't need one now, simply don't pay attention to the rest of the NFL. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloFan68 Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 Here’s my pick - 23. Buffalo Bills (9-3) Tee Higgins, WR, Clemson The Bills have helped the second-year development of Josh Allen with veteran wide receivers John Brown (deep threat outside) and Cole Beasley (reliable slot man inside). But they still could a dangerous, all-around playmaker who can be a force in the red zone. At 6-4, 215 pounds, Higgins has posted 40 receptions for 799 yards and 8 TDs in 11 games this season. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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