Dkollidas Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 If he’s cut after this season, could he re-unite with McDermott in Buffalo? McDermott was his DC during his time in Carolina. I’m sure he’s lost a bit at age 31, but on a lower, short-term contract, with the coach who coached him into one of the best defensive players in the league for a time, it could be worth a shot. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 He really could be ideal opposite Tre. I haven’t watched him much this season so I can’t comment if he’s been playing well or not. Levi has been solid, but susceptible to breakdowns. Norman could bring more consistency and hopefully some turnovers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 Not opposed to a veteran opposite Tre. But free agency dollars have to be spent on one or two of the following DE, OLB, and WR. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QB Bills Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 Kevin Johnson should be opposite White from now on and if Levi Wallace never sees the field again it'll be too soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 Norman has been a locker room issue at times not sure if he fits the process. I wouldn't be opposed to a one year deal at a cheap contract but has risks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 Isn’t he kind of trash now? I don’t know for certain, but I thought his play has fallen off a lot 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airbornetrooper Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 At the vet minimum, sure. Otherwise let’s develop and pay our own. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 (edited) McDermott was in Carolina ? Let me google that.....your right! Edited November 25, 2019 by HOUSE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artem Lipatov Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 Looking to progress of White and and regress of Norman outside Carolina I think McDermott really can develop corners. Levi was burnt in Cleveland many times. I hope for Johnson and new additions in offseason. Imagine Bills could still have Gilmore or Darby. One of them + Tre White, Poyer and Hyde = it would be scary secondary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsbackto81 Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 (edited) 4 hours ago, QB Bills said: Kevin Johnson should be opposite White from now on and if Levi Wallace never sees the field again it'll be too soon. That's a little harsh. Levi and Johnson are not the answer at CB2 but are decent depth players though Johnson at this point looks to be the better option. Norman is superior to both but I question his desire. Once players get paid and start losing they check in, like Norman and Harris Jr. for that matter. A rejuvenated and motivated Norman or Harris Jr. would be a nice compliment to Tre. Edited November 25, 2019 by billsbackto81 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 Should be interesting how the Bills game plan for Gallup this Thanksgiving. As far as Norman....he's not an upgrade of what we have now. He's been horrible this year and should hang up his cleats. PFF has him ranked as #110 out of 116 CB's. He'd pry retire at halftime our 2nd game. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 6 hours ago, Dkollidas said: If he’s cut after this season, could he re-unite with McDermott in Buffalo? McDermott was his DC during his time in Carolina. I’m sure he’s lost a bit at age 31, but on a lower, short-term contract, with the coach who coached him into one of the best defensive players in the league for a time, it could be worth a shot. don't take my reaction to your post the wrong way BUT .. The Dumbskins overpaid for him and he's been a FLOP there. So LOL No friggen way .. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 1 hour ago, Doc Brown said: Should be interesting how the Bills game plan for Gallup this Thanksgiving. As far as Norman....he's not an upgrade of what we have now. He's been horrible this year and should hang up his cleats. PFF has him ranked as #110 out of 116 CB's. He'd pry retire at halftime our 2nd game. If they experiment with Wallace out there trailing him around it won't last long. I expect Johnson to see a lot of work on Thursday. No to Norman. He has been on the decline the last couple of years and the headache doesn't equate with the talent level at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not at the table Karlos Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 1 hour ago, HOUSE said: McDermott was in Carolina ? Let me google that.....your right! No way. That looks photo shopped .. what’re you gonna tell me next, the homeless guy playing QB for the dolphins went to Harvard? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offyourocker Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 1 hour ago, Artem Lipatov said: Looking to progress of White and and regress of Norman outside Carolina I think McDermott really can develop corners. Levi was burnt in Cleveland many times. I hope for Johnson and new additions in offseason. Imagine Bills could still have Gilmore or Darby. One of them + Tre White, Poyer and Hyde = it would be scary secondary They probably do not draft Tre if they had kept Gilmore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 6 hours ago, QB Bills said: Kevin Johnson should be opposite White from now on and if Levi Wallace never sees the field again it'll be too soon. Levi has had some good games and as of late some really bad games. He is in year 2 imo we shouldnt quit on him however he really has to earn some playing time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProcessTruster Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 (edited) 6 hours ago, Dkollidas said: If he’s cut after this season, could he re-unite with McDermott in Buffalo? McDermott was his DC during his time in Carolina. I’m sure he’s lost a bit at age 31, but on a lower, short-term contract, with the coach who coached him into one of the best defensive players in the league for a time, it could be worth a shot. shiny object. pass. sign T White to a long term deal. sign your own guys you like to longer term deals . stay the course you've set out for yourself. this isn't fantasy football. improve the roster any way you can, but 31 year olds at DB or WR is probably not the way to do it trust the process. sign your own guys before they can escape in FA. Stay the course. Edited November 25, 2019 by ProcessTruster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigK14094 Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 6 hours ago, Ethan in Portland said: Not opposed to a veteran opposite Tre. But free agency dollars have to be spent on one or two of the following DE, OLB, and WR. Milano has to be paid this coming off season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dkollidas Posted November 25, 2019 Author Share Posted November 25, 2019 1 hour ago, ProcessTruster said: shiny object. pass. sign T White to a long term deal. sign your own guys you like to longer term deals . stay the course you've set out for yourself. this isn't fantasy football. improve the roster any way you can, but 31 year olds at DB or WR is probably not the way to do it trust the process. sign your own guys before they can escape in FA. Stay the course. I totally agree. But with $80M in cap space this off-season, maybe a 1-2yr deal at $5M-$7M or something like that works. if they did it I’d believe it’s more something along the lines of a short term to give us an extra advantage against teams like NE, KC etc. The team has done a really nice job of building a good room, which should help temper Norman if he becomes an issue. They've also built strong depth throughout the lineup, with CB being among those positions. Wallace will be back next year and I could totally see Kevin Johnson staying, and possibly a rookie drafted as well. So if it didn’t work, they would have backup plans. This wouldn't be a 3-4yr deal with lots of guarantees. It would be a 1-2yr deal with lots of incentives for playtime and good play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJ Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 I'm more inclined to add a CB via the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 Norman has been mostly disappointing, but if his issues are that he is not a great man corner and they are trying to force him into man coverage a lot then it might be worth looking into as long as they aren't breaking the bank for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juice_32 Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 9 hours ago, QB Bills said: Kevin Johnson should be opposite White from now on and if Levi Wallace never sees the field again it'll be too soon. Agree about Johnson, but Wallace is a fine boundary back up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 I don’t watch a ton of redskin football, but I pay enough attention to know Norman has been bad there for a couple years. So bad he was almost a healthy scratch for one of the worst teams in the league yesterday. People think Levi Wallace is getting torched well you definitely wouldn’t like Norman here. If you’re going to add veterans to the team in the offseason you want guys like Gore on their last legs who can hopefully produce a little on the field still but you know they’ll work hard and be an asset to the team off the field, not a diva who has been washed up for two years and carries a giant attitude to pair with declining play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 Norman being bad in Washington isn’t as big a red flag for me. That organization isn’t very stable. The fact Norman hasn’t been good will mean he might be available for a value price. McDermott knows him and if he and Beane look at it after the season and see he fits, then I’m all for it. Phillips was known as a bit of a problem before he came to the Bills. Again playing for Gase in Miami wasn’t a turn off for Brandon and Sean. Bills need to lock Tre up, but we’ve seen you can’t have a mouth good corners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tcampbell104 Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 5 hours ago, billsbackto81 said: That's a little harsh. Levi and Johnson are not the answer at CB2 but are decent depth players though Johnson at this point looks to be the better option. Norman is superior to both but I question his desire. Once players get paid and start losing they check in, like Norman and Harris Jr. for that matter. A rejuvenated and motivated Norman or Harris Jr. would be a nice compliment to Tre. wasnt johnson a first round pick that injuries kept from fullfilling his talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dopey Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 If our staff is good with signing Norman, I'm all in. I trust them. Sure he got paid, but players wanna win. I believe the Skins situation is part of his decline. You give your all and notice the franchise doesn't know what it's doing(ex. some wanted Haskins, some didn't. Trent Williams fiasco), you kinda question why you're there. We seem to know what we're doing and there should be a level of trust both ways. He wouldn't have to be "The Man" on our defense. I think he would compliment White and the rest of the D just fine. Beane knows what he's doing in relation to the cap. If Norman is brought in, it wouldn't jeopardize our cap situation. He reminds me of Richard Sherman. Up there in age, but can still contribute a lot in the right situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 I like this idea. Keep Kevin Johnson and Levi Wallace also. I wonder if there is an issue between Beane and Josh Norman. Beane was in Carolina when they decided to let Norman go and not pay him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Boy Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 Get a young D end who can pressure the QB and stop the run and Wallace starts looking like an all pro ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 He's been garbage lately- to the point where they couldn't give him away at the deadline. That being said, If McD brings him in I would be fine with it. McD can sign Betty White to play Big Nickel and I will assume it's a fantastic move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blacklabel Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 I dunno, getting benched on a 2-9 team when you're supposed to be one of their better players? I mean, maybe they'd consider him for one of their veteran roles but Norman has never really struck me as the kind of player they prefer their veterans to be. They want vets to set good examples for their younger players and be team-first guys, I dunno if Norman is that type of player. I'm fine with Wallace and K. Johnson. I know Wallace had a couple of rough outings but that happens, you know, the other team is going to make plays and players are going to have bad games. Sometimes it feels like the expectations some fans have are unattainable. It's like, "WHAT?! Levi Wallace allowed four receptions for 64 yards?! This... this is atrocious! When is this stoopid organization going to sign players who can actually play, huh? Just what is Beane doing, he needs to go! WAIT, WHAT?! Ed Oliver only had ONE sack, ONE?!?! I said it before and I'll say it again and again and again because I'm da smartest lil' foosball expert youse ever did meet, but that Oliver is a BUST! You only use the ninth overall pick for a DT that's going to get you AT LEAST six sacks a game, 19 tackles for loss and four forced fumbles!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 Going into the offseason the Bills will have $90,968,000 in cap space. The 4th most in the entire league, behind only the Dolphins, Colts, and Buccaneers. So money shouldnt be much of an issue for signing a CB AND a DE or other positions. We have a couple guys already on the team who I'd like to see brought back: Jordan Phillips being the only one who will command $10M or more on the open market. Shaq Lawson is probably the second on the list, but probably wont get that much. So looks like we're sitting pretty as it pertains to cash. So yeah, the room is there if we wanted to bring in Norman. The big deal will be working on extensions before a number of contracts expire in 2021. Poyer, Milano, Tre White, Dawkins, for sure need extensions asap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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