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43 minutes ago, Cotton Fitzsimmons said:

This Vincent fellow looks like a guy who knows a thing or two about stuffing the run!

Was reading some draft profiles on him.  His strength is pass rush over run stuff.   We'll see....

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59 minutes ago, BillsRdue said:

FINAFREAKINGLY!  Did the coaches finally see on tape what we all saw on the field for the last 3 weeks. Damn I watched the all 22 from the Eagles and Peko was a total non-factor and negative on the field. How Taylor wasn't brought up before is puzzling.

I googled around about Taylor a month ago. I found mostly positive scouting reports on him. The Miami media liked him as well. He could be a player if he puts it all together.

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1 hour ago, BillsRdue said:

FINAFREAKINGLY!  Did the coaches finally see on tape what we all saw on the field for the last 3 weeks. Damn I watched the all 22 from the Eagles and Peko was a total non-factor and negative on the field. How Taylor wasn't brought up before is puzzling.

Without Peko's story, he probably would have been.

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1 minute ago, MAJBobby said:

You will see. Only way he doesn’t land on the PS is if he is Claimed. With the way we rotate our DL they are going to have a DT on the PS. 


Probably..,  doesn’t mean definitely it will be him.

 

If they go this way, I would hate to see him back on the team again this season in a big game down the road..

 

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1 minute ago, CSBill said:

That's good, many of us have been asking for this--glad they finally listened.

 

Now we'll see if we have any credibility ?

Us? Credibility? Now you’re pushing it a bit far don’t you think ?

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2 minutes ago, vincec said:

Just so I'm clear, Taylor is primarily a 1 technique player, right? I've seen posts that he's played 3 most of his career.


 

I believe when they brought up Peko it was because he was the 1 technique DT on the PS to replace Harrison Phillips.

 

Taylor has been more a 3 Technique to replace Jordan Phillips/EO. 
 

I think they saw Jordan play some 1 Technique last week and decided the combination of the 3 guys that can play 3T with some flexibility is better than Peko trying to anchor the line.

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3 minutes ago, vincec said:

Just so I'm clear, Taylor is primarily a 1 technique player, right? I've seen posts that he's played 3 most of his career.

From what I've been seeing, when Lotulelei comes off and it's Phillips/Oliver/Peko at DT there isn't really another guy who can effectively play 1tech so I imagine Frazier is going to try to use Taylor in that position. They tried it with Peko and Phillips vs Miami and Eagles (they've actually been sliding Phillips in there since Harry went down, for some reason it wasn't until two weeks ago that teams figured out they were trying to hide a 3tech in the 1 spot and started punishing it) until it was clear neither can really play that spot, and it results in getting gashed in run when they can go 1v1 inside and get linemen on LBs immediately. If Taylor can anchor I imagine he starts getting 40% of defensive snaps immediately. If he can't I think they'll keep looking for someone else who can.

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4 minutes ago, Rochesterfan said:


 

I believe when they brought up Peko it was because he was the 1 technique DT on the PS to replace Harrison Phillips.

 

Taylor has been more a 3 Technique to replace Jordan Phillips/EO. 
 

I think they saw Jordan play some 1 Technique last week and decided the combination of the 3 guys that can play 3T with some flexibility is better than Peko trying to anchor the line.

OK. Thanks. It'll be interesting to see how they deploy their DL.

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4 minutes ago, GoBills808 said:

From what I've been seeing, when Lotulelei comes off and it's Phillips/Oliver/Peko at DT there isn't really another guy who can effectively play 1tech so I imagine Frazier is going to try to use Taylor in that position. They tried it with Peko and Phillips vs Miami and Eagles (they've actually been sliding Phillips in there since Harry went down, for some reason it wasn't until two weeks ago that teams figured out they were trying to hide a 3tech in the 1 spot and started punishing it) until it was clear neither can really play that spot, and it results in getting gashed in run when they can go 1v1 inside and get linemen on LBs immediately. If Taylor can anchor I imagine he starts getting 40% of defensive snaps immediately. If he can't I think they'll keep looking for someone else who can.

You’re on point. Everything I see of yours is spot on lately. 

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17 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

Why was Taylor behind Peko on the roster?

 

Only thing I can think of was that he was on the team a bit longer and the staff may have felt more comfortable with him for that reason.  But I think those of us who knew Taylor were pretty disappointed that Peko got the call first.

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2 hours ago, Frez said:

Coach must read TBD message board! 

I really wonder how many players/coaches do... I know I would, just out of curiosity. Plus, there are the people who really care what other think and will defend themselves anonymously or attack rivals anonymously.

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8 minutes ago, billsbackto81 said:

If the objective was to get stout against the run than I don't understand why Peko was activated over Taylor. Peko I'm sure is a decent guy but he's barely PS material. 

Not sure if that was the objective...but it is now.

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3 hours ago, Boatdrinks said:

Good move. Taylor is a pretty talented DL. Peko may go back to the PS. Is Taylor eligible to  play this week ? Not exactly sure how that works. 

 

Yes, if signed before 4 pm Saturday

10 minutes ago, billsbackto81 said:

If the objective was to get stout against the run than I don't understand why Peko was activated over Taylor. Peko I'm sure is a decent guy but he's barely PS material. 

 

Peko is a 1-technique DT.  Taylor is a 3-technique.  So I think the objective was to see if Peko could get 'er done.  But instead they were swapping him and Phillips I believe, having Phillips play 1 technique.  So if they're doing that anyway and Taylor >> Peko at 3 technique, Welp then

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3 hours ago, GoBills808 said:

Somewhere @GG is very confused right now

 

Not really.  I thought Taylor would get the call in week 4.  Perhaps he didn’t know the defense enough.   Won’t be long before Taylor starts eating into Star’s snaps. 

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4 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

Unless they use the PS spot to sign Tyrell Dodson


 

They might, but they do not have to decide on Dodson until after this weekend - so my guess is they bring back Peko and then see where they are after this weekend with injuries.

 

I also believe they have a LB on the PS and with Taylor going up - they have no DL.  I would suspect that by next week barring injury - both Dodson and Peko are on the PS and the other LB - Phillips is gone.

5 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

OK, I thought Taylor was a 3-tech  But maybe they've been grooming him as a 1 and he "gets it" in practice.

 

Let's hope he "gets it" in games!


 

I agree - everything I read from Miami was he played mostly 3 techniques as a penetration DE, but hopefully they have him ready for the game.

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3 hours ago, Coach Tuesday said:

It’s a week late honestly.

 

3 hours ago, BillsRdue said:

FINAFREAKINGLY!  Did the coaches finally see on tape what we all saw on the field for the last 3 weeks. Damn I watched the all 22 from the Eagles and Peko was a total non-factor and negative on the field. How Taylor wasn't brought up before is puzzling.

...very puzzling, peko was useless last week. Taylor will be an upgrade. 

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9 minutes ago, Rochesterfan said:

They might, but they do not have to decide on Dodson until after this weekend - so my guess is they bring back Peko and then see where they are after this weekend with injuries.

 

I also believe they have a LB on the PS and with Taylor going up - they have no DL.  I would suspect that by next week barring injury - both Dodson and Peko are on the PS and the other LB - Phillips is gone.

 

That's actually an interesting question what they do with regard to LB.

 

I know they liked Tyrell Dodson after training camp and I guess (??) he played for a bigger program at A&M.  But Del'Shawn Phillips put up a faster 40 time.  So it may not be a slam-dunk on Dodson > Phillips.  It's going to partly depend on what use Dodson made of his suspension time.

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