Royale with Cheese Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 Outside of Pettine...when have we lost a coordinator to a HC job? Marchibroda? I'm sure if our defense continues, Leslie Frazier will get some consideration too. https://billswire.usatoday.com/2019/10/09/could-buffalo-bills-brian-daboll-be-redskins-next-coach/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 neither need to consider going anywhere. still work to do and a solid playoff run yet to be had. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
From Roc to Ky bills fan Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 NOO! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted October 9, 2019 Author Share Posted October 9, 2019 It's week 6 coming up and this is way too early.....I think it's just a piece to fill in the off week. I wouldn't be surprised if by the end of the season, both Daboll and Frazier interview somewhere. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 Both Daboll and Frazier are going to be talked about as HC spots start to open up. I think it is a year too early for Daboll at this point. But Frazier I do expect to get interviews and serious consideration for teams 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TroutDog Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 (edited) Daboll was asked this point blank a while back and, at the time, stated he wanted to see this through to completion (meaning SB). I hope he he was being honest. There is an article in the Rochester D & C this morning about the fact that he’s put in 166 different alignments this year with the next closest being SD at 129. https://www.democratandchronicle.com/story/sports/football/nfl/bills/2019/10/08/buffalo-bills-offense-remains-work-progress-josh-allen-matures-bye-week/3901105002/ I like what he’s doing. Edited October 9, 2019 by TroutDog 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 ...maybe this will discourage him............. LaVar Arrington: Root of the issue in Washington is ownership Posted by Michael David Smith on October 9, 2019, 5:54 AM EDT Washington has fired another coach in Jay Gruden, but one former player says the problem with the team is that you can’t fire the owner. LaVar Arrington, a linebacker who was selected by Washington with the second overall pick in 2000, played there six years and later covered the team as a broadcaster, said on FS1 that Dan Snyder is to blame. “The root of the issue is ownership,” Arrington said. Arrington said the culture in Washington breeds players who resent Snyder. https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/10/09/lavar-arrington-root-of-the-issue-in-washington-is-ownership/ 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetermansRedemption Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 (edited) I often find myself being frustrated with Daboll. What’s his offense averaging? Can’t be more than 16 points per game this year. On many of his series I find myself frustrated with his play calling. This team is winning right now because of the defense, not Daboll’s play calling. Call me crazy, but I don’t view him as being a big loss at this point in time. Edited October 9, 2019 by Bills2ref 6 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boca BIlls Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 (edited) Hahahahaha yes every Bills coach always a candidate. 1 minute ago, Bills2ref said: I often find myself being frustrated with Daboll. What’s his offense averaging? Can’t be more than 16 points per game this year. On many of his series I find myself frustrated with his play calling as well. This team is winning right now because of the defense, not Daboll’s play calling. Call me crazy, but I don’t view him as being a big loss at this point in time. That isn't Dabolls fault. His play calling has been excellent, Josh and the other guys execution of said plays if the problem. The offense isn't doing worse b.c of Dabolls good play calling. Edited October 9, 2019 by Boca BIlls 7 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 You'd have to be some kind of stupid to actually want the HC job in Washington. Dan Snyder is a coach killer. 14 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 3 minutes ago, Bills2ref said: I often find myself being frustrated with Daboll. What’s his offense averaging? Can’t be more than 16 points per game this year. On many of his series I find myself frustrated with his play calling. This team is winning right now because of the defense, not Daboll’s play calling. Call me crazy, but I don’t view him as being a big loss at this point in time. 18 points a game. But on a side note you want Allen to keep progressing? You want Daboll to stay. Allen went from inaccurate talking point to leading the NFL in completion percentage in intermediate routes with over 80% 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 He hasn’t proven enough yet- and we have some work to finish. I suspect both coordinators are going to stand fast and see this thing through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 4 minutes ago, Boca BIlls said: Hahahahaha yes every Bills coach always a candidate. That isn't Dabolls fault. His play calling has been excellent, Josh and the other guys execution of said plays if the problem. The offense isn't doing worse b.c of Dabolls good play calling. Isn't it also the identify of a good coach to see what works and put his players in position to make plays and not the other way around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 Daboll and Frazier will be mentioned for HC gigs, but it doesn't mean that either will take them. Washington is a toxic wasteland right now. I don't know who would take that job to be honest. You would have to work hand in hand with Allen first off, who is a complete dumb***. Second, you have a meddling owner who can't keep his hands out of the personnel decisions and is buddy, buddy with the other guy you're working hand in hand with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 Daboll has not done nearly enough to warrant HC job. Frazier will get some interviews for sure, but if you were trying to make the hire how do know how much of this defense is McD or Frazier? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollars 2 donuts Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 (edited) Tangential to this, and I know even this won't make good candidates with good opportunities (which Washington isn't) stay, is having very rich owners. I like it quite a bit. Very rich owners who don't have a problem making their HC, OCs and GM some of, if not the highest paid at their posts in the league to get them to stay. This, and paying for brand new state of the art training facilities that players and coaches appreciate. I am not saying they should...I am just saying it is a nice option. As opposed to (RIP Ralph, a great owner who kept the team here) Ralph Wilson telling us in a press conferences that he has to sell one of his paintings to keep one of his star players here. Edited October 9, 2019 by dollars 2 donuts 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeHateMe Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 Daboll isn't getting any HC jobs... like come on guys. This offense is still bad. Just not bad enough to ruin these amazing games by our D. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 Should this be true vs rumor, in the end money talks. BUT it’s the Skins, and their owner and environment are both toxic as hell, maybe our guys have to much pride, and don’t want to be in that cesspool. We shall see. At this time I suspect it’s just the rumor mill churning away as usual. Go Bills!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 Can't see it. Working for Snyder is no treat. And if the Bills keep winning, there will be much more attractive openings... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That's No Moon Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 I realize there are only 32 HC jobs in the world and, in order to coach at this level at all, these guys have pretty hefty egos. However, anyone who thinks about taking that job without strongly considering the ownership and upper management disaster that team has been for so long is just being foolish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 4 minutes ago, HeHateMe said: Daboll isn't getting any HC jobs... like come on guys. This offense is still bad. Just not bad enough to ruin these amazing games by our D. Uh huh. They're currently 12th in offense and should be top 10 after the Fins game... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan1959 Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 23 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...maybe this will discourage him............. LaVar Arrington: Root of the issue in Washington is ownership Posted by Michael David Smith on October 9, 2019, 5:54 AM EDT And, in other news, the earth is still round... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 He’s an offensive guy so it wouldn’t surprise me if his name is mentioned but I don’t think he’s done anything to warrant getting hired. I also didn’t think Zac Taylor or Matt LeFleur we’re going to be hired either and look what happened. It’s Snyder so who knows? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cripple Creek Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 preposterous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 1 minute ago, billsfan1959 said: And, in other news, the earth is still round... Not according to the "flat earth" crowd 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seasons1992 Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 1 minute ago, H2o said: Not according to the "flat earth" crowd "Yeah, I'm not into this whole round thing." 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollars 2 donuts Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 Additionally, this is why you have to strike while the iron is hot becuase you don't know what next year holds. I actually could see a scenario where next year's Bills team is better than this years, but has a worse record and a more difficult rad to travel. Let's say 13-3 (i'm just saying) as opposed to 11-5. Miami and the Jets I believe will be better and some other teams will take steps forward. The Patriots are the Patriots, but if we are clearing the deck now and seeing what we have I say we load up while we got our guys and get a WR or pass rush specialists and make the push this year. One year's 13-3 Vikings could very well end up being the next years 8-7-1. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 6 minutes ago, Lurker said: Can't see it. Working for Snyder is no treat. And if the Bills keep winning, there will be much more attractive openings... This ^^^. If our team is a success both our OC and DC can pretty much right their own tickets, but at this point not so much, imo. That and who in their right mind wants to work for Snyder??? Now that’s a job that does not get the cream of the crop applying to work there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 (edited) I suggested it myself in the “Gruden Fired” thread... Coach Tuesday calls it first Edited October 9, 2019 by Coach Tuesday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Junction Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 4 minutes ago, Bangarang said: He’s an offensive guy so it wouldn’t surprise me if his name is mentioned but I don’t think he’s done anything to warrant getting hired. I also didn’t think Zac Taylor or Matt LeFleur we’re going to be hired either and look what happened. It’s Snyder so who knows? Snyder is the definition of a wildcard. If that guy decides he wants Daboll and no one else... brinks truck, begging.... full court press. I hope Daboll considers the dysfunction and perhaps has a chat with Pettine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigK14094 Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 32 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: Both Daboll and Frazier are going to be talked about as HC spots start to open up. I think it is a year too early for Daboll at this point. But Frazier I do expect to get interviews and serious consideration for teams Fraziers HC tenure at Minn wasn't a success. Somebody would need to want to try him again. But, as we know here in Buffalo, Marv Levy was let go by the Chiefs, and did great things with the Bills later in his career, so who knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CuddyDark Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 Of course he is, and probably a lot of other places. I'd like to see him in ATL if he has to leave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianthomas Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 I can't see it happening... at least not yet. He hasn't been successful enough to stand out versus other coordinators out there. But more importantly imo, he grew up a Bills fan, graduated from St Francis. I can't imagine him leaving his dream of coaching for the Bills prematurely to coach the Redskins of all teams. I guess theres always the lure of multi millions but i can't see that happening from Washingtons side, not for him. When its unlikely from both sides perspective, you know you've been click baited Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 18 minutes ago, That's No Moon said: I realize there are only 32 HC jobs in the world and, in order to coach at this level at all, these guys have pretty hefty egos. However, anyone who thinks about taking that job without strongly considering the ownership and upper management disaster that team has been for so long is just being foolish. Are you talking about Bills with Ralph and Levy/Brandon as GM? Or Washington? Like you said there are 32 spots and there are only a few coaches that have enough clout and can turn down an opportunity for one of them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted October 9, 2019 Author Share Posted October 9, 2019 5 minutes ago, CuddyDark said: Of course he is, and probably a lot of other places. I'd like to see him in ATL if he has to leave. Atlanta I think would be a good choice for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 9 minutes ago, bigK14094 said: Fraziers HC tenure at Minn wasn't a success. Somebody would need to want to try him again. But, as we know here in Buffalo, Marv Levy was let go by the Chiefs, and did great things with the Bills later in his career, so who knows. Coaches get recycled all the time in the NFL. What would be asked from Frazier in interviews is how much of the defense inputs are his and not McDs and what has he learned on how to run a team that is different than before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjv001 Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 When the Bills make a deep run into the playoffs, or better yet play in the Super Bowl, thats when our coordinators will be candidates for HC positions. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 Everyone will be linked to the Redskins coaching position until it is filled. Internal candidates are being discussed, Mike Tomlin is supposedly on Snyder's radar, now Daboll. Probably just take it all with a grain of salt because no one will want to go to Washington. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not at the table Karlos Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 Let’s say Daboll and Frazier are hired elsewhere as HCs, who replaces them? On offense it would have to be Dorsey but what about defense? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanSD Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 Why would Daboll -- or any competent coach -- want to work for Dan Snyder? If this season goes the way it's going so far, I'm sure Daboll will probably get some interviews, but you've got to figure that the Redskins job is among the least attractive in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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