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1 hour ago, That's No Moon said:

I realize there are only 32 HC jobs in the world and, in order to coach at this level at all, these guys have pretty hefty egos. However, anyone who thinks about taking that job without strongly considering the ownership and upper management disaster that team has been for so long is just being foolish.  

 

This is precisely how I see this. The only reason you'd take a HC post in DC is if you are certain it would be your only shot at that position.

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5 minutes ago, IDBillzFan said:

 

 

This is precisely how I see this. The only reason you'd take a HC post in DC is if you are certain it would be your only shot at that position.

 

.....I'd "rather be shot" versus "taking THAT shot".......Snyder is a Jurrah clone or at least he thinks he is...more money than football brains......

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1 hour ago, Freddie's Dead said:

You'd have to be some kind of stupid to actually want the HC job in Washington.  Dan Snyder is a coach killer.  

I mean, theres 32 of these jobs in the world. Someone will take it. But if I had an opportunity to stay in a stable situation like here in Buffalo or go work for Snyder, I think I'll stay

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1 hour ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said:

...maybe this will discourage him.............

 

LaVar Arrington: Root of the issue in Washington is ownership

Posted by Michael David Smith on October 9, 2019, 5:54 AM EDT
 

Washington has fired another coach in Jay Gruden, but one former player says the problem with the team is that you can’t fire the owner.

 

LaVar Arrington, a linebacker who was selected by Washington with the second overall pick in 2000, played there six years and later covered the team as a broadcaster, said on FS1 that Dan Snyder is to blame.

 

The root of the issue is ownership,” Arrington said.

 

Arrington said the culture in Washington breeds players who resent Snyder.

 

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/10/09/lavar-arrington-root-of-the-issue-in-washington-is-ownership/

 

Not a winning formula with Snyder at the helm. Just breeds a culture of mediocrity and resentment. Arrington should know.

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52 minutes ago, Happy Gilmore said:

Everyone will be linked to the Redskins coaching position until it is filled.  Internal candidates are being discussed, Mike Tomlin is supposedly on Snyder's radar, now Daboll.  Probably just take it all with a grain of salt because no one will want to go to Washington.

Florio keeps trying to make Tomlin to Washington a thing and there is absolutly no way that happens.

 

IF Pittsburgh decides to move on (highly unlikely) Tomlin will be in high demand and Washington will not be a strong consideration from Mr Tomlin

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1 hour ago, TroutDog said:

Daboll was asked this point blank a while back and, at the time, stated he wanted to see this through to completion (meaning SB). 

 

I hope he he was being honest. There is an article in the Rochester D & C this morning about the fact that he’s put in 166 different alignments this year with the next closest being SD at 129. 

 

https://www.democratandchronicle.com/story/sports/football/nfl/bills/2019/10/08/buffalo-bills-offense-remains-work-progress-josh-allen-matures-bye-week/3901105002/

 

I like what he’s doing. 

I agree. I wish coaches wouldn't jump around so much... but if he gets an offer to be a HC for four or five times the money that he's making here, I can't blame the guy for jumping at it.

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14 minutes ago, Captain Hindsight said:

I mean, theres 32 of these jobs in the world. Someone will take it. But if I had an opportunity to stay in a stable situation like here in Buffalo or go work for Snyder, I think I'll stay

 

I get that there's only 32 of these jobs on the planet.  I still think you're nuts for wanting to take the job in DC.

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In the NFL head coaching world, Washington is a losers job, it really can’t be argued, even if you get large millions annually, your still a loser for taking the job, and everyone knows it. It is a career killer job, of the HCs that have been fired in Washington who has gotten a HC gig afterwards ?

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2 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said:

Outside of Pettine...when have we lost a coordinator to a HC job?  Marchibroda?

I'm sure if our defense continues, Leslie Frazier will get some consideration too.

 

https://billswire.usatoday.com/2019/10/09/could-buffalo-bills-brian-daboll-be-redskins-next-coach/

 

 

Daboll was saddled with bad situations for most of his OC career prior to Buffalo.  It took him a long time to work his way back to NFL OC as a result.  I seriously doubt he will look at the Redskins job as desirable.  Even with a young QB to work with in Haskins, that organization is horribly run from the top down.

 

Daboll knows very well that if Bills keep winning he will be a hot candidate and will have better choices available to him soon enough.  I think there is little chance Daboll will take the Redskins job given the trajectory of the Bills right now likely creating much better openings soon enough.  

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2 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said:

Outside of Pettine...when have we lost a coordinator to a HC job?  Marchibroda?

I'm sure if our defense continues, Leslie Frazier will get some consideration too.

 

https://billswire.usatoday.com/2019/10/09/could-buffalo-bills-brian-daboll-be-redskins-next-coach/

 

Anthony Lynn. 

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4 minutes ago, Don Otreply said:

In the NFL head coaching world, Washington is a losers job, it really can’t be argued, even if you get large millions annually, your still a loser for taking the job, and everyone knows it. It is a career killer job, of the HCs that have been fired in Washington who has gotten a HC gig afterwards ?

 

The HC will never have final say on anything.  Snyder will make final decisions on everything.  I would hate to be a HC there.

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Daboll's not ready yet. He's still trying to navigate our developing offense.  This is McDermott's defense, 

not Frazier. I don't see either  leaving next year.

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2 hours ago, Bills2ref said:

I often find myself being frustrated with Daboll. What’s his offense averaging? Can’t be more than 16 points per game this year. On many of his series I find myself frustrated with his play calling. This team is winning right now because of the defense, not Daboll’s play calling. Call me crazy, but I don’t view him as being a big loss at this point in time. 

I don’t know if you noticed but we are actually moving the ball pretty well , Allen made some bad decisions by turning the ball over you want to blame Daboll for that ? BTW we are a TOP 10 offense in YPG !!! 

 

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I live in the D.C. area.  Snyder can't sell Brian Daboll to this fanbase.  No way it'll be him.

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I highly doubt it. I think they will go with a proven head coach this time. Someone out of retirement. 

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2 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said:

Outside of Pettine...when have we lost a coordinator to a HC job?  Marchibroda?

I'm sure if our defense continues, Leslie Frazier will get some consideration too.

 

https://billswire.usatoday.com/2019/10/09/could-buffalo-bills-brian-daboll-be-redskins-next-coach/

 


this would fit the current trend of hiring offensive minded head coaches.  But I think Daniel Snyder would want to make a bigger splash

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37 minutes ago, Captain Hindsight said:

Florio keeps trying to make Tomlin to Washington a thing and there is absolutly no way that happens.

 

IF Pittsburgh decides to move on (highly unlikely) Tomlin will be in high demand and Washington will not be a strong consideration from Mr Tomlin

 

Agreed.  Hard to take Tomlin to Washington seriously, don't think it will happen.

Tomlin probably does return to Pittsburgh with the injury to Big Ben.  Next year could be key for him, Tomlin was just extended through 2021.

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Daboll is the OC of his hometown team - a team on the rise with what appears to be an up-and-coming franchise QB. That's gotta be an attractive force.

 

On the other hand, Washington is a team in disarray with an unknown quantity at QB and a meddling owner. There's just as much repulsive force in that as there is an attractive force to stay in Buffalo.

 

I had a colleague who interviewed for a middle management position when our employer was in disarray, much like the 'skins are now. I suggested he not take the job, considering the people in upper management were losers. He said, "Yeah, but when will a gig like this become available again?" I said, "I'd guess in a year or so." Against my advice, he took the job. He was let go about a year later.

 

 

 

 

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10 minutes ago, Chicken Boo said:

I live in the D.C. area.  Snyder can't sell Brian Daboll to this fanbase.  No way it'll be him.


Then he’d have to give full control to someone like Tomlin and move Allen out of the way.

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Frazier is a great DC but I’m not sure he would make a good HC. I really don’t want Frazier leaving and I would consider making him the highest paid DC so he stays. Frazier is a big reason this secondary is one of the best. Frazier is also a huge reason our young players on defense are developing so quickly. 

 

Daboll seems like he would try to be a HC but I also don’t think he would be a good HC. I think both of our coordinators are fine right where they are.

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2 hours ago, HeHateMe said:

Daboll isn't getting any HC jobs... like come on guys.  This offense is still bad.  Just not bad enough to ruin these amazing games by our D.

it’ll improve to middle of the pack, at least, after these next three games.

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2 hours ago, Bills2ref said:

I often find myself being frustrated with Daboll. What’s his offense averaging? Can’t be more than 16 points per game this year. On many of his series I find myself frustrated with his play calling. This team is winning right now because of the defense, not Daboll’s play calling. Call me crazy, but I don’t view him as being a big loss at this point in time. 

Really, he has a lot to prove yet as an NFL OC. He has been OC for 3 teams now and his offenses have ranked 29th, 31st, 20th, 32nd and 30th. So, I don't see how anyone can see him as a hot offensive guru that you want to make a HC, like Sean McVay. He's going to have to build something really good here before he gets a shot, IMO.

 

Frazier had a shot and it didn't work out so I don't know why anyone would look at him differently from guys like Jim Schwartz, Wade Phillips, Steve Wilks, etc. etc.

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17 minutes ago, Chicken Boo said:

I live in the D.C. area.  Snyder can't sell Brian Daboll to this fanbase.  No way it'll be him.

 

I doubt Snyder will be able to sell anyone to the Redskin fan base; they're tired of him and are skeptical of anything he says or does.  A number of the fans I know stopped paying attention to the Redskins.  They're paying more attention to the Nats and Caps.

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I hope none of the Bills coaches get an interview this coming off season. I would like to see the Bills have some continuity for a little while and see what the Bills can look like with the same players and coaches in a system for several years. That being said I wouldnt blame either of them for  leaving for a head coaching gig. 

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It's a double edge sword. One hand you like seeing your coaches being highly regarded. On the other, selfishly you want to keep the band together. 

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