with one full season under his belt, how do you feel about our QB?

[Teddy KGB]

Pretty pretty good.      

[Brianmoorman4jesus]

Not that it’s a huge deal but I can’t believe you didn’t put the record in after 16 games.

[london_bills]

55 minutes ago, BuffAlone said:

If you don't want to count today as a 4th quarter comeback, then he has 4. too many int's, but a gutsy performance time and time again.  Question is, how would you say Josh is doing after 16 games as a starter? Is he The Man moving forward??

He is for the near future.

 

I find it hard to know yet if he's the franchise QB guy for the future. 

 

Keep playing.

 

Someone on the radio made a good point

(On allen) HE HAS THE TENDENCY TO BREATH LIFE INTO THE OPPOSITION WITH HIS PICKS. This is so true for me.

 

He was good today mostly (kept chains moving, bounced back on TD winning drive, went through progressions, plays well when it 'matters' on drives)

 

but the above IS A PROBLEM.

 

Let's continue to see the good, not seeing any GREAT plays to outway these momentum shifts so the jury is still out.

Edited October 6, 2019 by london_bills

[BuffaloButt]

51 minutes ago, BuffAlone said:

If you don't want to count today as a 4th quarter comeback, then he has 4. too many int's, but a gutsy performance time and time again.  Question is, how would you say Josh is doing after 16 games as a starter? Is he The Man moving forward??

Stats to your post please...!!!

[LSHMEAB]

Today was a really critical game for Allen. I wanted to see how he'd respond to the awful outing against NE. Besides the one pick, he did pretty much everything right. He wasn't "spectacular," but he played smart, efficient football. I believe the big plays will come, so I'm really zeroing in on the efficiency aspect of his game. He's had more ups than downs in that department, and that's all you can ask. His stock is rising in my book even if the stats are run of the mill. He's got to stop taking the big hits though, or he's gonna be unavailable sooner rather than later. 

 

It's kind of odd in a sense that the naysayers(myself included) are more impressed with his progression than the cockeyed optimists. I suppose that depends on how you choose to view it and where your opinion began.

Edited October 6, 2019 by LSHMEAB

[Scott7975]

I feel like he has come a long way since his first half of games last season.  I also feel like he has a long way to go.  It will come with time.  He is just a kid that didn't play in a big program, so naturally he will have more learning to do.  Im actually pretty happy with his play. He was pretty bad last week, but in all the other games he had a lot of good with the bad.  

[Rocket94]

Josh Allen will be fine, just give it time. Some of his base behaviors are in his dna, we will have to live with that part, but with more game experience he can only get  better. He took a huge stride in just one week already.

[Gray Beard]

Today he played conservatively, slid, threw the ball away, and won. 

He had nice touch on many of his shorter throws. 

Long throws weren’t part of the game, and that has been part of his skill set that needs work. Jury is still out. 

In general, I’m more optimistic that he is finally learning to take what’s available, and that trying to be a hero can and/or will backfire.

[Buffaloflash]

I'm all in with Josh,Now that he learning to slide feet first I'm very optimistic!

Finally,if he can figure out when to put heat on the ball,and when not to,his interception numbers will decease.

[fansince88]

57 minutes ago, njbuff said:

I was so PO'ed at him when he threw the INT, but he found a way to persevere today. He's made a habit out of that. So, there is that.

Shouldnt have thrown that. That said the receivers looked confused. I wonder if someone ran in the way of a route.

Edited October 6, 2019 by fansince88

[london_bills]

Just now, fansince88 said:

Shouldnt have thrown that. That said the receivers looked confused. I think someone ran in the way of a route.

The point is the BOOST it seems to give the opposition. Its weird the titans looked like a different team as soon as they got that.

[Boca BIlls]

I will let you know after the season.

[fansince88]

Just now, london_bills said:

The point is the BOOST it seems to give the opposition. Its weird the titans looked like a different team as soon as they got that.

Agreed 

[Bangarang]

I feel better than I thought I would when we drafted him. Still needs to cut back on the bad plays and turnovers. 

Edited October 6, 2019 by Bangarang

[DuckyBoys]

He's improving little by little  They asked him to be extra cautious and play conservative today and he responded minus the one int.

[dakrider]

Josh hasn't had a great game yet this year.  He's had some great 4th quarters but not a great full game.  He's played 1 full season now, so I would expect more consistency and working towards a full game.  He's still going to throw a bad interception in games but like today, Bills had a first down play and then a penalty and its 3rd and 5 and Josh tries to force the ball.  He will probably do that in games.  Still not happy with the Bills receivers.  Every week I see great receiver play in the NFL but not many on the Bills. 

[BillsFanSD]

Good overall.  JA needs to do a better job taking care of the football, and we as fans are going to have to accept the occasional WTF play.  But he's a winner, and I'm happy with that.

[JMF2006]

Awesome kid and learning his craft,

 

Today was another step forward,

 

He loves Buffalo and his teammates love him we need to get behind this young man and hitch our wagons to him.

 

He is the real deal.

 

[dollars 2 donuts]

They’ve made him a better qb, numbers wise, by reeling him in but they have also made him a less interesting and less dynamic qb by reeling him in.

 

weird.  We are winning more and he is better, but I get the sense that teams are less and less worried about him.

 

...I would so love for him to hit a 70 yarder and smack back at that recent perception about him.

[london_bills]

15 minutes ago, dollars 2 donuts said:

They’ve made him a better qb, numbers wise, by reeling him in but they have also made him a less interesting and less dynamic qb by reeling him in.

 

weird.  We are winning more and he is better, but I get the sense that teams are less and less worried about him.

 

...I would so love for him to hit a 70 yarder and smack back at that recent perception about him.

This is true. You know what Allen needs.. he needs ONE game where he hits alot of these big plays that he has done occasionally, all at once. Maybe the dolphins game..

[Artem Lipatov]

Best upside: this season he has 3 game winning drives in 4th quarter in 4 full games (all wins). For me this clutch trait is more important for QB than yards and td/ints. Fitz and Tyrod had the same 3 together during several seasons (I haven't checked, just feeling). 

Biggest downside: no accurate long throws for 30-50 yards. That's worrying me.

At all I love him, he is interesting to watch. I wait for games every Sunday with confidence he can fight the win out. Last years all our Qbs choked in last minutes of the even games.

[Ethan in Cleveland]

1 hour ago, BuffAlone said:

If you don't want to count today as a 4th quarter comeback, then he has 4. too many int's, but a gutsy performance time and time again.  Question is, how would you say Josh is doing after 16 games as a starter? Is he The Man moving forward??

The BIlls never trailed in the game how can it be a comeback?

[billybob71]

JA = franchise QB

[dollars 2 donuts]

4 minutes ago, london_bills said:

This is true. You know what Allen needs.. he needs ONE game where he hits alot of these big plays that he has done occasionally, all at once. Maybe the dolphins game..

 

Honestly, LB, it will do so much for him, the team, and putting Ds back on their heels.

[Ethan in Cleveland]

16 games in he is what everyone thought he would be. He is much more dynamic than TT but far more turnover prone.  He is far better in the short to intermediate passing game than he was a year ago.  He is fine.  He is slower than some rookies in reading defenses.  Some guys just process faster.  But few players in the league have his arm strength.  We will know more by the end of the year.  I'm not convinced he is an All-pro QB yet, but he is progressing just fine.  

[KD in CA]

1 hour ago, whatdrought said:

Someone less lazy than me- what’s his record in 16?

 

also, shoutout to McD who is above .500 as Bills coach!

 

9-7 I believe.  Tyrod fans must be over the moon with Josh, as I recall the phrases 'record as a starter' and 'winning record' used to be peppered throughout discussions here.

 

On the coaching record, I really miss whoever kept the running win pct of all post-Marv coaches in his signature line.

[BuffaloBillsGospel]

I'll say it over and over, I feel like we have Brett Favre on the roster, you can say those were different times yadda yadda but the similarities are a very good comparison especially younger in Favre's career. Favre actually threw 24 picks in his 1st year in GB.

[Artem Lipatov]

14 minutes ago, Ethan in Portland said:

The BIlls never trailed in the game how can it be a comeback?

 

It's not a comeback but it's another game winning drive in 4th qtr.

[BuffAlone]

15 minutes ago, Ethan in Portland said:

The BIlls never trailed in the game how can it be a comeback?

blah blah....obviously. that s why I said don't count it. tied in the 4th. so only 4 4th quarter comebacks. 

[LVGrown]

Through 16 games it looks like ... apologies for any errors, quick search.

 

Passing Stats

271/483 = 56%

3,196 yards

6.53 avg

15 TD

19 INT

 

Rushing Stats

130 attempts

789 rushing yards

6.06 avg

11 TD

4 lost fumbles

 

Total through 16 games

3,985 total yards

26 total TD's

23 total turnovers

 

9-7 record as a starter

 

 

 

[34-78-83]

6 Game winning drives in 16 career games per WGR 550 post-game host.

[Sundancer]

I hope the fans and coaches give him room to grow. He is going to have some more bad games but every line trends upwards and we all knew he was a project. 

 

Today's game showed him learning the lessons of taking care of himself. I also loved the throws at WRs feet on blown up plays. Very Bradylike and I've never seen him do that before. 

[Chill]

Today once again proved that he is a franchise qb. 

 

Go for big fish, sooner or later you’ll land a whale. 

 

We have landed our franchise whale. Our outlook is bright. 

Edited October 6, 2019 by Chill

[london_bills]

I thought today was the MOST ACCURATE I've seen Josh throw.

[billsbackto81]

I've seen worse.

[Ed_Formerly_of_Roch]

 

Think the Int's will get better with time, though he'll always be somewhat of a gunslinger which isn't the worst problem to have so likely he'll always have more Int's than others.   His completion percentage is much better than expected so far and he can make throws very few others can make.   He's also seems to be well liked by his team mates too and seems to be good as a leader .

[Iverwig]

I am happy with him although he’s got some more maturing to do. The good news is he’s still young and learning on the fly. Hopefully, with more experience he will cut down on the int’s. Now, do I think he will be elite like Aaron Rodgers? No, not yet but he can be still be very good. I would like to see a string of 300 yard games from him. I will be highly disappointed if he doesn’t throw over 300 against the Dolphins. 

[BuffaloButt]

50 minutes ago, LVGrown said:

Through 16 games it looks like ... apologies for any errors, quick search.

 

Passing Stats

271/483 = 56%

3,196 yards

6.53 avg

15 TD

19 INT

 

Rushing Stats

130 attempts

789 rushing yards

6.06 avg

11 TD

4 lost fumbles

 

Total through 16 games

3,985 total yards

26 total TD's

23 total turnovers

 

9-7 record as a starter

 

 

 

What's that QB Rating for those stats?!  

[london_bills]

1 minute ago, Iverwig said:

I am happy with him although he’s got some more maturing to do. The good news is he’s still young and learning on the fly. Hopefully, with more experience he will cut down on the int’s. Now, do I think he will be elite like Aaron Rodgers? No, not yet but he can be still be very good. I would like to see a string of 300 yard games from him. I will be highly disappointed if he doesn’t throw over 300 against the Dolphins. 

Got to see one game like that to get an idea of what he can do on a consistent good day, where he hits a couple longer ones.

[DaBillsFanSince1973]

some of the great ones took some time to develop, some more then 16 games. too soon to say but he still has plenty of room to improve. he's not a quitter and he plays hard.

 

I'd rather wait until the end of the season to see where he and the team are and even then it'll likely take another season for him to begin to show the true signs of a franchise QB?