elijah Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 It seems player movement is at an all-time high and Brandon Beane has shown before he’s a fan of player trading. The combination of those two factors along with multiple players at positions of need being rumored - albeit small rumors - to be on the trading block, which position would it be most likely we make a move far at the deadline? I’m having trouble deciding myself seeing as at the three positions I think we’d be most likely, there seems to be something in the way. Between the regime not being ready to give up on players (Zay Jones), not wanting to delay the development of others (Cody Ford) and my personal thought of why dump more assets into a top 3 defense in the league, I’m not sure which position I think they’d trade for. However, it does seem semi-likely they may make a trade with receivers (AJ Green & Stefon Diggs) and offensive lineman (Trent Williams) apparently on the block. Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmur66 Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 Any impactful trade would require the Bills to give up draft pics and I don't see that happening 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 I think they need to take a look at LT. Dawkins is LT depth or LG; not dependable enough to start at LT. If there happens to be an edge/DE, that is another need and would make our D-line an absolute monster. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 Trent Williams please. It's hard to find a guy with that skillset. I'm not sold on AJ Green being a WR answer. He may take a few games to get back into shape. Depends on the trade I suppose. Von Miller is interesting, but he's been blanked mostly this year? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 I could see a WR swap for another underperforming player. Similar to the Hughes trade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBean Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 Trent Williams 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elijah Posted October 2, 2019 Author Share Posted October 2, 2019 15 minutes ago, Happy Gilmore said: I think they need to take a look at LT. Dawkins is LT depth or LG; not dependable enough to start at LT. If there happens to be an edge/DE, that is another need and would make our D-line an absolute monster. I’m not sure where the Dawkins hate comes from. He’s not an all-pro left tackle but he’s done nothing to say that he’s not atleast an average starter at left tackle. He took a small step backwards last year but has rebounded for the most part this year. Most of our offensive line problems are coming from that right side of the o-line, and by the right side I mean really just mainly Cody Ford. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 Offensive tackle. Left, right, don’t matter. Ford isn’t a tackle. Meaning we only have 2 capable tackles, one of which always seems to have a hurt knee. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 Quick, let's turn this into another blank blank thread!!! I vote WR. Wanna guess which one? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 Trade Zay away. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dopey Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 Of the options provided, I voted "other" in place of none. Offensively, we have almost a whole new lineup. We will get better as the season progresses. I think we're fine. If anything bring up Duke and keep our draft picks. Defensively, We're top 5 already, but Clowney is gone and Von Miller seems like a better 3-4 OLB than a pass rushing DE we might need. Hope we stay put and let the offense gel, bring up Duke and let the defense roll as it has been. Oh, wait, punter maybe? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cage Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 1 hour ago, Happy Gilmore said: I think they need to take a look at LT. Dawkins is LT depth or LG; not dependable enough to start at LT. If there happens to be an edge/DE, that is another need and would make our D-line an absolute monster. I think its important to look at some of the video review articles and not just come to knee jerk conclusions based on an untimely penalty or a couple bad plays that stand out. For those who subscribe to The Athletic, Joe Buscaglia does an All-22 review of each player for each game. Based on first four games this season Dawkins is ranked in that weekly analysis as the #4 highest graded player on the team, top rated OL, and would be highest ranked offensive player, except for Singletary who has very limited snaps. https://theathletic.com/1258181/2019/10/01/bills-all-22-review-dissecting-josh-allens-day-and-why-theres-more-to-zay-jones-than-meets-the-eye/ I don't think we'll be looking to trade a ton for Trent Williams... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BfloBillsFan Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 I think the most impactful position would be WR, that's my vote. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 I voted "other" for RB. If Motor is healthy, great, but if not, or if Frank or TJ go down, we need somebody to fill in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r00tabaga Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 Zay* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Playoffs? Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 Would be thrilled with WR, OL... or both! if this team wants to be a true postseason team, it needs to upgrade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 No reason there need be only one. Wouldn’t be the 1st time Beane made 2 trades in one day. As for the comment we wouldn’t trade Draft pics, nothing is off the table when McBeane want to deal. Including 1st Rounders. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 If Diggs is available for a 2nd rd pick you make that trade in a heartbeat. We need a lot more elite players on offense. It would be nice to have a top 5 WR and a top 5 player somewhere on the O-Line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 Right now OL is still a big problem. So unless they finally gel and start playing well together that is the area that needs to be addressed. Particularly OT 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warrior9 Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 3 hours ago, Happy Gilmore said: I think they need to take a look at LT. Dawkins is LT depth or LG; not dependable enough to start at LT. If there happens to be an edge/DE, that is another need and would make our D-line an absolute monster. Have you watched Dawkins this year? .... Seriously.. Have you actually watched him play football this year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dous21 Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 8 minutes ago, warrior9 said: Have you watched Dawkins this year? .... Seriously.. Have you actually watched him play football this year? yes. he has been a huge liability. He will be gone next year and replaced by a franchise LT 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 I say WR simply because of the talent (possibly) available at the position This team needs a physical WR that can separate and catch the ball in the worst way. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warrior9 Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, dous21 said: yes. he has been a huge liability. He will be gone next year and replaced by a franchise LT Proof of him being a "huge liability" please. I'm assuming you meant constantly... so let's find this proof. Edited October 2, 2019 by warrior9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 3 hours ago, elijah said: I’m not sure where the Dawkins hate comes from. He’s not an all-pro left tackle but he’s done nothing to say that he’s not atleast an average starter at left tackle. He took a small step backwards last year but has rebounded for the most part this year. Most of our offensive line problems are coming from that right side of the o-line, and by the right side I mean really just mainly Cody Ford. Dawkins has been getting a number of calls for holding, most likely because he is getting beat. Dawkins is an average LT at best, and probably better suited for LG. Nsecki might be worth another look at LT (did a good job filling in for Trent Williams last year) if Ford or someone else could hold up better at RT. Not sure what Trent Williams wants, but he is a much better than average LT; there is a bit of an injury concern looking back the past couple of seasons, so that could give pause to pursuing him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 Im quite skeptical of a deadline trade this year, but if I was to guess it would be for a WR. We need to get Josh some help. But this draft has some special talents in it at WR, feels like Beane would rather make a move up and land one he covets and would prefer to save his draft ammo for something like that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warrior9 Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 3 minutes ago, Happy Gilmore said: Dawkins has been getting a number of calls for holding, most likely because he is getting beat. Dawkins is an average LT at best, and probably better suited for LG. Nsecki might be worth another look at LT (did a good job filling in for Trent Williams last year) if Ford or someone else could hold up better at RT. Not sure what Trent Williams wants, but he is a much better than average LT; there is a bit of an injury concern looking back the past couple of seasons, so that could give pause to pursuing him. He has 1 holding call this year that stood and 1 last year.......................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 39 minutes ago, warrior9 said: Have you watched Dawkins this year? .... Seriously.. Have you actually watched him play football this year? Yes, I have, as well as last year. He looks to have had one holding call last year, but got beat plenty. Dawkins was the best of a bad O-line with Castillo's incompetence, but that still wasn't saying much about him. Read this for further reference (you need to) https://nflmocks.com/2019/07/24/buffalo-bills-2019-dion-dawkins/ I know Dawkins has been called for holding more than once this year....I've watched the games, Mrs. Dawkins. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 Trent Williams. The longer he's out, the more his trade value theoretically drops. But realistically at the deadline there'l likely be a bidding war of sorts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warrior9 Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Happy Gilmore said: Yes, I have, as well as last year. He looks to have had one holding call last year, but got beat plenty. Dawkins was the best of a bad O-line with Castillo's incompetence, but that still wasn't saying much about him. Read this for further reference (you need to) https://nflmocks.com/2019/07/24/buffalo-bills-2019-dion-dawkins/ I know Dawkins has been called for holding more than once this year....I've watched the games, Mrs. Dawkins. Please see "that stood" Dion Dawkins has no been bad in the slightest this year.... Every linemen gets beat. But i'm wondering where this liability film is? I have yet to see him get beat "plenty" this year and look out of place, Mr. Sullivan. Edited October 2, 2019 by warrior9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreggTX Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 It will be a OT, WR or CB if they do, but I find it highly unlikely. I wish they'd trade for a proven QB like Stafford or Ryan, but that won't happen either, obviously. I think we are really just going to wait for the offseason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 OT or TE are my choices. As Knox showing good things but not ready to annoit him starting caliber just yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 The Bills should just role with what they got. They can get better from within. They don't need to be trading any high draft choices for players who won't guarantee them anything whatsoever. Remember how well the Kelvin Benjamin trade worked out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 7 hours ago, H2o said: Quick, let's turn this into another blank blank thread!!! I vote WR. Wanna guess which one? If ever a drinking game invented itself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iamkrgr Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 Diggs would be awesome here. Trent Williams would be equally awesome. Sign me up for both. Von Miller would be pretty cool but I don't see him being moved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostbitmic Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 How much would we have to give up to get someone to take Zay, Bojo and Lee Smith ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BITE ME Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 No trade needed. Just go get Antonio Brown. He is worth rolling the dice. With him the Bills would be incredibly difficult to beat. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 (edited) RT. There's gotta be a guy out there at least PROFICIENT in pass pro that can be had on the cheap. I don't see them making a big in season trade and expect them to address WR and DE in the offseason. Unlikely to find an LT and an average RT would have more impact THIS year than an average WR or DE. Edited October 3, 2019 by LSHMEAB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in Chicago Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 We need a WR over and above anything else. We can scheme and game plan around other shortcomings but WR is a glaring need right now. Cut Zay and trade for one who fights for the ball. We need a Lofton type of acquisition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulus Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 RT... Possibly a WR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvbillsfan Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 I’d really like to get another RB. A guy that is a goal line hammer. I like Frank but traditionally he hasn’t been a goal line type back for a while now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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