Simon Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 My new nickname for Zay is "cheesecloth" cuz that sumbitch got no grit..... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 2 hours ago, Lurker said: Most quality WRs have the agility and ball tracking skills to adjust to those kind of throws. Many can do it even when blanketed by a defender. Jones seems to trip all over himself at times and not have much physical (or mental) agility... ...sure it was East Carolina and the competition is suspect, but 160 catches with the mentioned deficiencies?.......wow.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 7 hours ago, Virgil said: Can someone please tell me what Zay did, or didn’t do, yesterday to call for the hate? I see people saying cut him immediately. I can’t remember a play with him where I thought he was the reason we sucked. The guy isn’t even out there that much. Overall, he hasn’t lived up to his draft status and physical traits, but I don’t see how yesterday was the deal breaker. What am I missing? 'cuz he blows. Can't catch. Doesn't think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 (edited) I thought Zay was pretty terrible yesterday Edited September 30, 2019 by NewEra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunsgoodtime Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 8 hours ago, Dr Doom said: How many games has he cost us compared to how many games he has made a difference? I remember the Carolina game two years ago still to this day. Yesterday is just another example. Has he tried to jump through any windows yet this year? I had front row seats right in front of that drop in Carolina. I will never forget it lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 8 hours ago, whatdrought said: Two of Allen’s three interceptions were thrown Zays way. While neither of them were his fault, he made no attempt to attack the ball or make a play on it. He watched as the DB broke for the ball. It’s just additional evidence of his inability to adjust for the ball/make a play on it. He also high pointed the endzone throw from Barkley, got two hands on it and it didn’t bring it in. Effort. he waits the balls in when he needs to go get them. he has very little anticipation as how to make the play. something is off about him. I think he tries. but it just not click for him to become anything but a role player. and even then. Sorry for the negative vibes. But he could have made two plays if he was more aware of his surroundings and more aggressive to the ball 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 Can Zay make a play? I never see separation, and a lot of dropped passes. I just don’t see what he brings. Duke is excellent blocker, and can go up and win a 50/50 ball. Zay can do neither. Zay is the worst bills draft pick in awhile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 3 hours ago, Freddie's Dead said: ENOUGH!! IT'S SPELLED GILMORE!!! GILMOUR IS IN PINK FLOYD!!!! whats this ? Glimore is a guitar player too ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irv Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 1 hour ago, Simon said: My new nickname for Zay is "cheesecloth" cuz that sumbitch got no grit..... Mine is "The Wind". Because he blows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 I would trade Zay for whatever I could get for him- a 7th or a bunch of deflated footballs. He’s worthless. Let’s see if a sucker will give us a 7th for him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 1 hour ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...sure it was East Carolina and the competition is suspect, but 160 catches with the mentioned deficiencies?.......wow.......... something broked. from college to NFL. because of the incident with his brother and the naked window. I suggest he was into the drugs. he blew his mind out in a car, he hadn't noticed that the light had changed Just now, Pete said: I would trade Zay for whatever I could get for him- a 7th or a bunch of deflated footballs. He’s worthless. Let’s see if a sucker will give us a 7th for him Bring up the PS guys and do it post haste. Hopefull Foster gets back up to speed asap. Let McKenzie get some more reps. Duke anyone? he can high point and squeeze a laser in 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuckyBoys Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 He stinks for a third year player that was a very early 2nd round pick He's a whiff but its not his fault the Bills made the wrong choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chill Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 3rd year player who can’t catch and is a WR. Drops in important situations. The exact opposite of clutch. Trust is a big issue with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 Hey doesn’t fight for the ball, seems unaware of what’s going on around him ( watched a db make an INT instead of “ playing defender” and knocking the ball away from him. His hands are questionable. He was a second round pick and should be a larger factor out there than what he is. His performance is what you’d expect of a 4th round player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 15 minutes ago, Irv said: Mine is "The Wind". Because he blows. That's a lackin' in alliteration 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsDiehard Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 The better question is why are they game planning putting Zay in situations to make a play...he can't get seperation nor can he go up and come down with a jump ball...he's not a #3 or 4 WR on anyone's depth chart! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 2 hours ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...sure it was East Carolina and the competition is suspect, but 160 catches with the mentioned deficiencies?.......wow.......... The NFL is not East Carolina. Plenty of great college players couldn’t cut it NFL. Zay sucking as a pro after 160 in college is nothing new Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsDiehard Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 Knowing it's not Zay's fault we could've had JuJu or Godwin! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 It wouldn't surprise me if he's gone by the bye week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 Is Zay worse player on Bills roster? If not him, than who? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston's #1 Bills Fan Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 7 minutes ago, Pete said: Is Zay worse player on Bills roster? If not him, than who? Ducasse? Oh, wait...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ta111 Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 Interesting comment by McDermott on Jones lack of effort. https://www.newyorkupstate.com/buffalo-bills/2019/09/zay-jones-shouldve-become-a-defender-on-josh-allen-int-bills-sean-mcdermott-says.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John in Jax Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 11 hours ago, TwistofFate said: He was targeted eight times yesterday and caught two passes on top of that he dropped another game-winning pass on a fourth down in the end zone. Recorded the game on DVR....just went back and watched the 4th down "drop" you reference above. Listen, I'm not saying Zay Jones is a great receiver, but to call that a drop is ridiculous. It was way too high, and he had a CB draped all over him. What was really pathetic about that play was the design though. We had 2 WRs stacked on the left side, and both of them appeared to run in the same direction, so they were easily covered. It really gave Barkley no option as to where to go. And the back stayed in to block. Terrible looking play design. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILBillsfan Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 McDermott hit in it today that the offensive guy can help out by also playing defense and fighting for those balls. the deep route under thrown in the doesn’t make any adjustment to the ball the sideline play he didn’t even fight for the ball that is what some of the hate is about 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 I remember when Kelly ran Chris Burkett off the team for not fighting for the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 3 minutes ago, ILBillsfan said: McDermott hit in it today that the offensive guy can help out by also playing defense and fighting for those balls. the deep route under thrown in the doesn’t make any adjustment to the ball the sideline play he didn’t even fight for the ball that is what some of the hate is about Seriously, what do you people expect from the guy?!?!?!?! If we won't even hop over a railing for JESUS what makes you think hes going to fight for a ball for Allen?? Bad joke, yeah I know. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostbitmic Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 If he could fight for the ball like he fights for Jesus, we might have something. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 Le’veon Who? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPar_v2 Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 26 minutes ago, Jauronimo said: Seriously, what do you people expect from the guy?!?!?!?! If we won't even hop over a railing for JESUS what makes you think hes going to fight for a ball for Allen?? Bad joke, yeah I know. 3 minutes ago, frostbitmic said: If he could fight for the ball like he fights for Jesus, we might have something. these jokes about his mental health never ever get old. And two in a row! Did you two collaborate to double up just in case the first one didn’t land? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 I will admit I think Zay gets a bad rap. But yesterday, man. You have to knock the ball down and prevent the int (and yes, Allen can’t throw it to begin with). But he also dropped a low throw again (not the end zone one, that was a tough catch) that could have made a big difference. Could Duke offer more? I’m thinking yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostbitmic Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 1 minute ago, JoPar_v2 said: these jokes about his mental health never ever get old. And two in a row! Did you two collaborate to double up just in case the first one didn’t land? Bad jokes r us But seriously, a WR's job is to catch the ball, he just isn't very good at that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 1 minute ago, JoPar_v2 said: these jokes about his mental health never ever get old. And two in a row! Did you two collaborate to double up just in case the first one didn’t land? No, collaboration but I think that guy just ripped me off. Your capacity for outrage and self-righteous indignation makes you a good person. I can tell. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fansince88 Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 12 hours ago, Virgil said: Can someone please tell me what Zay did, or didn’t do, yesterday to call for the hate? I see people saying cut him immediately. I can’t remember a play with him where I thought he was the reason we sucked. The guy isn’t even out there that much. Overall, he hasn’t lived up to his draft status and physical traits, but I don’t see how yesterday was the deal breaker. What am I missing? Even Eric Wood called him out today. Needs to compete for the ball and become the defender when necessary. He said 3 of the INT's were on him. Spoke of Stevie Johnson getting ripped a new one by Fitz after he threw one up and Stevie let the defender take the ball away. Said Fitz told him fight for the ball or I cant trust you. He never fought for the ball yesterday. Never. That has been the issue with him all year. Even on the deep routs that he couldn't catch up to he doesn't appear to be laying it all out on the field. Makes me question, are they over thrown or under ran? Foster gets under them. Zay needs to sit until he wants to be the star. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob in STL Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 (edited) 12 hours ago, Virgil said: Can someone please tell me what Zay did, or didn’t do, yesterday to call for the hate? I see people saying cut him immediately. I can’t remember a play with him where I thought he was the reason we sucked. The guy isn’t even out there that much. Overall, he hasn’t lived up to his draft status and physical traits, but I don’t see how yesterday was the deal breaker. What am I missing? He speed is average and his hands are bad. He runs lazy routes and is rarely open. Watch him live in the stadium and you see he really sucks away from the ball. He has no compete, he is not smart, and he does not work hard. He can’t play special teams either. This is his third season and he still has no football sense. On the 3rd interception he really needed to play DB and knock the ball down. In a post game interview he said something like this “I knew I could not catch it, I thought it might be for someone behind me so I let it go”. We have Foster and Duke Williams, let’s try one of them. Edited October 1, 2019 by Bob in STL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPar_v2 Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 3 minutes ago, Jauronimo said: No, collaboration but I think that guy just ripped me off. Your capacity for outrage and self-righteous indignation makes you a good person. I can tell. Not an iota of outrage in my reply. It’s old news. It’s trite and boring at this point. There’s plenty of easy, recent fodder to use if you want to rip on Jones. But instead going back to ribbing on someone’s serious mental episode sure does make YOU seem like a good person. I can just tell. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 Kind of sort of not exactly what you would want to hear from him like at all, especially after that game- https://buffalonews.com/2019/09/29/buffalo-bills-new-england-patriots-zay-jones/ Doubt he’s on the roster after the bye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big C Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 Worth looking through this film breakdown from Aaron Quinn on Zay's play yesterday. It paints him in a much better light: 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phypon Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 I'm going for "dropped passes and can't catch a cold" for $1 Alex...answer....Zay Jones! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 15 hours ago, Virgil said: Can someone please tell me what Zay did, or didn’t do, yesterday to call for the hate? I see people saying cut him immediately. I can’t remember a play with him where I thought he was the reason we sucked. The guy isn’t even out there that much. Overall, he hasn’t lived up to his draft status and physical traits, but I don’t see how yesterday was the deal breaker. What am I missing? 10 targets, 2 catches. What is it you see good about him? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 13 hours ago, Virgil said: The TD pass was severely under thrown. His momentum wouldn’t have allowed him to come back for the call. Now you are going to make me find the videos and live the pain all over again. I’m not a Zay apologist as I was really hoping Foster would step up and replace him this year. But I feel like people are placing their anger towards Zay instead of Allen for this game Yeah. This. Zay is not a good player, but there was little to nothing he could have done to prevent those picks OR catch that pass from Barkley. The Yeldon drop was ROUGH. That one was a killer despite the fact that they got the personal foul. The defender made a great play and got his hand in there, but I've seen that catch made enough times to know it's possible. Just killer. He catches that ball and we have the ball at the 2 or the 1 yard line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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