NoSaint Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 Am I the only one that hopes Brady is playing a little better than we are seeing him get credit for? if he’s hot trash and the pats are rolling that’s not a good thing for us 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 42 minutes ago, LSHMEAB said: I think I was right my friend. You're an excellent poster, but I'm giving myself the dub on the offseason TB12 debate. Remind me? I'm old! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 13 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: Remind me? I'm old! We discussed Brady at length. It's possible he'll turn it around, but it looks like he has finally lost that tiny margin for error in terms of arm strength as well as becoming really gun shy. Kind of a chicken/egg thing. It's also entirely possible he'll get that 7th ring, and his decline this season won't mean a whole lot in terms of his legacy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 1 hour ago, NoSaint said: Am I the only one that hopes Brady is playing a little better than we are seeing him get credit for? if he’s hot trash and the pats are rolling that’s not a good thing for us He's not hot trash this year, but is regressing. The offense he's running and his ability to execute it is the same as it has always been; the major difference being he wants to get the ball out even quicker now, is losing arm strength each year, and wants to take a hit less and less as the years go by. This is just the factor of Father Time having his way with Brady, and will ultimately defeat him. The number of teams that can beat their offense varies from year to year; this year, the NFC has a couple of teams that can beat NE, the AFC has maybe one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 On 9/30/2019 at 9:26 AM, YoloinOhio said: In addition to playing like *****, Brady looked miserable during the game yesterday, lacked the fire he usually shows. He doesn’t appear to be having fun. He doesn’t look or sound like the same player. Interesting that he mentions in this interview the mental and physical grind taking a toll - it’s only week 4. He can see he’s playing 3 more years as much as he wants but I don’t buy it right now. Bored with all the winning. @SchoppLife Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/brady-questionable-vs-cowboys-with-elbow-injury/ar-BBXc5fl?ocid=spartandhp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, I am the egg man said: Brady: 3 league MVP's, 6 SB wins, 4 SB MVP's. Yeah, he can check out, like no other ever will. I will never forgive Pete Carrol and Shanahan for throwing away Super Bowls against this ahole. Edited November 23, 2019 by KD in CA 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reks Ryan Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 11 minutes ago, KD in CA said: I will never forgive Pete Carrol and Shanahan for throwing away Super Bowls against this ahole. You shouldn’t. Don’t forgive Russell Wilson either 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 Yolo, iirc you have an athletic subscription. Michael Lombardi addressed the decline of Brady, Brees and Rivers this season. https://theathletic.com/1401898/2019/11/22/from-the-gms-eye-is-father-time-finally-winning-its-battle-against-tom-brady-drew-brees-and-philip-rivers/ He’s is a bit of a Patriots homer (having worked for them). He has tons of respect for NE. So take it with a grain of salt. Anyway... he claims the blame is more on Brady’s o line and wide receivers. He says when he had his starting left tackle + center + AB he was putting up his usual numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 4 minutes ago, BillsFan4 said: Yolo, iirc you have an athletic subscription. Michael Lombardi addressed the decline of Brady, Brees and Rivers this season. https://theathletic.com/1401898/2019/11/22/from-the-gms-eye-is-father-time-finally-winning-its-battle-against-tom-brady-drew-brees-and-philip-rivers/ He’s is a bit of a Patriots homer (having worked for them). He has tons of respect for NE. So take it with a grain of salt. Anyway... he claims the blame is more on Brady’s o line and wide receivers. He says when he had his starting left tackle + center + AB he was putting up his usual numbers. Well that cant be true. I was told that a franchise QB doesn't need anybody. He lifts the team around him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted November 23, 2019 Author Share Posted November 23, 2019 8 minutes ago, BillsFan4 said: Yolo, iirc you have an athletic subscription. Michael Lombardi addressed the decline of Brady, Brees and Rivers this season. https://theathletic.com/1401898/2019/11/22/from-the-gms-eye-is-father-time-finally-winning-its-battle-against-tom-brady-drew-brees-and-philip-rivers/ He’s is a bit of a Patriots homer (having worked for them). He has tons of respect for NE. So take it with a grain of salt. Anyway... he claims the blame is more on Brady’s o line and wide receivers. He says when he had his starting left tackle + center + AB he was putting up his usual numbers. That could certainly be the case. Whatever the reason, he looks different and acts different imo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 48 minutes ago, Happy Gilmore said: He's not hot trash this year, but is regressing. The offense he's running and his ability to execute it is the same as it has always been; the major difference being he wants to get the ball out even quicker now, is losing arm strength each year, and wants to take a hit less and less as the years go by. This is just the factor of Father Time having his way with Brady, and will ultimately defeat him. The number of teams that can beat their offense varies from year to year; this year, the NFC has a couple of teams that can beat NE, the AFC has maybe one. I used the phrase hot trash a little tongue in cheek. my point being that replacing Brady’s contribution is getting easier and they are still the top of the pile. hopefully the teams trend begins to align with his 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 (edited) 53 minutes ago, Reks Ryan said: You shouldn’t. Don’t forgive Russell Wilson either Had the best running back in short yardage in there and decided to throw instead. Probably the coaches call there to throw it. Pretty sure lynch even said so. Not Wilsons fault. Edited November 23, 2019 by The Wiz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevewin Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 2 hours ago, KD in CA said: I will never forgive Pete Carrol and Shanahan for throwing away Super Bowls against this ahole. And Mike friggin Martz for just not feeding Marshall Faulk. Do that and they win going away. Friggin a-hole Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob's House Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 4 hours ago, NoSaint said: Am I the only one that hopes Brady is playing a little better than we are seeing him get credit for? if he’s hot trash and the pats are rolling that’s not a good thing for us That worries me as well. The one season in the dynasty that he didn't play they still went 11-5. I largely attributed that to a stellar surrounding cast, but they have a way of making JAGs look like stars. News of their impending demise may be greatly exaggerated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 5 hours ago, billsfan89 said: Peyton was still good up until his last year when he looked completely shot. I just assume Brady will suddenly turn it on during the playoffs until I see otherwise. Actually the decline of Peyton started about week 10 or 11 of the previous season. At the time the line was a quad injury was affecting his velocity because he couldn't really step into his throws. The truth was father time had arrived. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 Brady can check out any time he likes, but unfortunately he will never leave.. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundancer Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 Anton could juggle all the barbells he liked but white nose hairs come for every man. - Stephen King I've seen this movie before. I hope it ends differently this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 8 hours ago, KD in CA said: I will never forgive Pete Carrol and Shanahan for throwing away Super Bowls against this ahole. The helmet catch was kind of fluky and the drop by Welker was uncharacteristic. He could have eight titles or he could have four. All I know is if he loses in the SB this year Kelly is no longer the only QB with four SB losses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 9 hours ago, LSHMEAB said: We discussed Brady at length. It's possible he'll turn it around, but it looks like he has finally lost that tiny margin for error in terms of arm strength as well as becoming really gun shy. Kind of a chicken/egg thing. It's also entirely possible he'll get that 7th ring, and his decline this season won't mean a whole lot in terms of his legacy. Peyton won in Denver unable to throw more than 15 yards its called squeezing every drop out of the roster and playing in a year when there is nobody confident or powerful to take it away from you 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skibum Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 Brady can do whatever in the world he wants to do. If he was “checked out “, he would have retired. If he’s playing, he’s playing to win. Have you checked the AFC standings recently? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 Pats are dead for the 80th time now? it will happen some day it did for Tiger Woods, maybe, lots of pinheads in my life attacked every win by him by telling me he had to fall apart eventually such a great insight.... that’s why they never achieved much in school or work... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 Brady is tired of all the rigged games. He's got imposters remorse. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 21 minutes ago, row_33 said: Pats are dead for the 80th time now? it will happen some day it did for Tiger Woods, maybe, lots of pinheads in my life attacked every win by him by telling me he had to fall apart eventually such a great insight.... that’s why they never achieved much in school or work... Tiger collapsed catastrophically... seems a lot of the compulsion and obsession that fuel greatness interact with human flaws to cause stumbles too. he has worked himself back into the mix though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 (edited) 12 hours ago, I am the egg man said: Brady: 3 league MVP's, 6 SB wins, 4 SB MVP's. Yeah, he can check out, like no other ever will. lol. Yogi Berra says keep trying Edited November 23, 2019 by SlimShady'sGhost 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rad Likes The Bills Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 8 minutes ago, SlimShady'sGhost said: lol. Yogi Berra says keep trying Two entirely different sports, and even more so what does this accomplish? Brady is the goat of NFL QB’s rn (stats and rings) and there is really nothing we can do but wait until he retires.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 I've thought his arm was injured for a while now Every game lately he's been flexing and looking at his arm like it was bothering him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 13 hours ago, LSHMEAB said: We discussed Brady at length. It's possible he'll turn it around, but it looks like he has finally lost that tiny margin for error in terms of arm strength as well as becoming really gun shy. Kind of a chicken/egg thing. It's also entirely possible he'll get that 7th ring, and his decline this season won't mean a whole lot in terms of his legacy. His numbers were very solid last season, so I disagreed. But this year he does look off. Dumping a lot of passes. Edelman is the best pass catcher of the middle ever and he's dropping balls. They aren't using Sanu at all. Oh well--Brady's obituary has been written on this site for at least 7 or 8 years without interruption. We shall see... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 2 hours ago, Rad Likes The Bills said: Two entirely different sports, and even more so what does this accomplish? Brady is the goat of NFL QB’s rn (stats and rings) and there is really nothing we can do but wait until he retires.. 10 championships is still 10 championships. you cannot diminish them with praise for Tainted Tom Remember the Putz got 11 wins with Meh Cassel. He didn’t do squat for Buffalo and he totally sucked when he had to play in Dallas. Brisset and Garoppolo also won a number of games when Tommy was banned for deflate gate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 16 hours ago, I am the egg man said: Brady: 3 league MVP's, 6 SB wins, 4 SB MVP's. Yeah, he can check out, like no other ever will. Yeah, I don't understand the point. He'll check out the same as pretty much every QB to have played the position; on his last legs. Not quite sure what his career has to do with THIS SEASON. He's the G.O.A.T. in my personal opinion. But he's pretty much done. Both statements can be true. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Maiden Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 Brady and NE have set expectations extremely high......I think Brady is #8 in passing yards so far this season.....and they are 9-1.....yet, we see multitude of article asking what is wrong with them ......talk about being victim of their own success....For the last 5-6 years, we see threads about NE or Brady being done...we all know how that turned out....The collapse will happen....hopefully soon....but I can easily see them getting to their 9th consecutive AFCCG.....I can see them at 14-2 or even 15-1....they should be favorite in all 6 remaining games....pretty much every NFL team would sign up for this scenario....The " They are not as good as the last few years " theory if fine and dandy, but if that still makes them a top 4 team, does it really mean anything?... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted November 23, 2019 Author Share Posted November 23, 2019 6 hours ago, skibum said: Brady can do whatever in the world he wants to do. If he was “checked out “, he would have retired. If he’s playing, he’s playing to win. Have you checked the AFC standings recently? Just telling you what it looks like to me. And he looks checked out. Nothing to do with the standings or their SB potential, really 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Red King Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 Actually reminds me a lot of Peyton's last season. Denver won the whole thing, but it was clear the defense did the heavy lifting and Manning was out of gas. I think Brady believed everything he said going into this season, but as the season goes on, this might be it. I think Tom's just hoping to limp into another ring before he rides off into the sunset. Have you seen the AFCE opponents next season? No way he wants to run that gauntlet. And even the division itself looks to give him more trouble. TB may have been elusive, but no man escapes the ravages of age. I honestly think this is it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 Just now, The Red King said: Actually reminds me a lot of Peyton's last season. Denver won the whole thing, but it was clear the defense did the heavy lifting and Manning was out of gas. I think Brady believed everything he said going into this season, but as the season goes on, this might be it. I think Tom's just hoping to limp into another ring before he rides off into the sunset. Have you seen the AFCE opponents next season? No way he wants to run that gauntlet. And even the division itself looks to give him more trouble. TB may have been elusive, but no man escapes the ravages of age. I honestly think this is it. The difference was that Peyton could barely complete a pass, was throwing twice as many picks as TD’s and got pseudobenched with an “injury” for half of the year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 5 hours ago, Rad Likes The Bills said: Two entirely different sports, and even more so what does this accomplish? Brady is the goat of NFL QB’s rn (stats and rings) and there is really nothing we can do but wait until he retires.. Force him into an early retirement? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 52 minutes ago, Iron Maiden said: Brady and NE have set expectations extremely high......I think Brady is #8 in passing yards so far this season.....and they are 9-1.....yet, we see multitude of article asking what is wrong with them ......talk about being victim of their own success....For the last 5-6 years, we see threads about NE or Brady being done... This is true, but I've always scoffed(which means very little as I'm one person). Boy who cries wolf is eventually gonna see a wolf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Sack Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 6-3 in Super Bowls < 4-0. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 6 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said: Brady is tired of all the rigged games. He's got imposters remorse. Yea, just like the Astros are.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreggTX Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 Brady is as intense as any athlete I've ever watched. I can't see him ever checking out before he retires. I also suspect his HC will retire with him rather than risk tarnishing his reputation. Bellechik and Brady will always be remembered together. When one of their names comes up in conversation, the other will usually follow shortly thereafter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritBill Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 2 minutes ago, GreggTX said: Brady is as intense as any athlete I've ever watched. I can't see him ever checking out before he retires. I also suspect his HC will retire with him rather than risk tarnishing his reputation. Bellechik and Brady will always be remembered together. When one of their names comes up in conversation, the other will usually follow shortly thereafter. Belichick is determined to win a ring without Brady. I’d be very surprised if they bow out together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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