Augie Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 9 minutes ago, billsfan714 said: Bill Polian signed a 32 or 33 year old James Lofton. Seems like he knew how to build an offense. Yeah, but Lofton was healthy, cost nothing to acquire and would take a “normal” salary. Yep, Bill made a great move there, but this is a very different situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locomark Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Starr Almighty said: What if he can't come back? Or if the injury makes him useless then what? He gets hurt a lot these days, what if he plays 1 game? No risk no reward...if you want to play with the big boys you need to take risks like them. stop thinking like a 9-7 team would .. If he pans out we become a contender. Edited October 1, 2019 by Locomark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hebert19 Posted October 1, 2019 Author Share Posted October 1, 2019 20 minutes ago, Starr Almighty said: What if he can't come back? Or if the injury makes him useless then what? He gets hurt a lot these days, what if he plays 1 game? Then you cut him or place on Ir? Why is this so hard for you people. You aren't committing beyond this year and we have cap space. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetermansRedemption Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 Provided the Bengals would accept a 3rd for him, this is absolutely the perfect time to trade for AJ. He is hurt, no problem, he would take at least two weeks to get the playbook down anyways. Let him learn it while injured, come back with a full week of practice and roll into the game 100% up to speed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QB Bills Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 There's talk that he's in no rush to play until he gets a new deal. The injury isn't the only thing keeping him off the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 (edited) All for wheeling and dealing. I’d like them to target someone more dynamic than AJG Emmanuel Sanders? Sanu? Devante parker? Id love them to pry out Evans from Tampa but now that they beat the Rams Winston May have a second life. Edited October 1, 2019 by Over 29 years of fanhood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan714 Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 23 minutes ago, Augie said: Yeah, but Lofton was healthy, cost nothing to acquire and would take a “normal” salary. Yep, Bill made a great move there, but this is a very different situation. Green didnt have his leg amputated. He'll be back soon. At this point in their careers I think AJ is way more highly regarded than Lofton was. Like others have said we have the cap space. You could cut Murphy, Kroft(talk about a guy who get hurt a lot) and Spencer Long next year and have a 75 percent of what he would want a year. This team needs a receiver that can step in and produce. To me Brown and Beasley are 2 or 3 receivers not close to a 1. AJ is a stud. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 On 9/29/2019 at 5:26 PM, offyourocker said: Rather go get Diggs Diggs would be a huge addition for us. Great speed, great route runner, great hands, amazing burst and start stop acceleration. I'm not sure what I would be willing to give up for that contract, maybe a 2nd and a 5th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78thealltimegreat Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 It was a little high but NFL receivers have to make that catch in the end zone Zay has done that far to often time to move on from him and just realize it isn’t going to happen with him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 On September 29, 2019 at 6:26 PM, offyourocker said: Rather go get Diggs Rather have Tyler Boyd 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 (edited) 11 minutes ago, billsfan714 said: Green didnt have his leg amputated. He'll be back soon. At this point in their careers I think AJ is way more highly regarded than Lofton was. Like others have said we have the cap space. You could cut Murphy, Kroft(talk about a guy who get hurt a lot) and Spencer Long next year and have a 75 percent of what he would want a year. This team needs a receiver that can step in and produce. To me Brown and Beasley are 2 or 3 receivers not close to a 1. AJ is a stud. Well, you TOTALLY missed the point. Lofton was on the street. We did NOT have to give up draft picks, we did NOT have to give him a huge contract. He represented quality and value, and he was healthy. AJ is NOT that. Great player, but still......NOT the deal Lofton was. Next year offers great value in the deep WR draft. Young, talented, and cheap. I bet the FO goes that route. . Edited October 1, 2019 by Augie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPar_v2 Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 22 minutes ago, Hebert19 said: Then you cut him or place on Ir? Why is this so hard for you people. You aren't committing beyond this year and we have cap space. because you don’t go out and spend trade and cap capital on an injured rental player “just ‘cause yo.” That’s not a valid reason. That’s the kind of dumb thing Washington does. That’s why it’s hard for some of us to get on board. One of the reasons McDermott said today for the abysmal offensive performance (as compared to the defense, specifically) was a lack of continuity on offense. 8 new starters on offense are still trying to gel and figure out things. Yet you want to start swapping pieces like this is a game of Madden. So let’s not condescend when you’re clearly not looking at all the variables here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Process Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 On 9/29/2019 at 6:29 PM, atlbillsfan1975 said: AJ would be huge. I’d go as high as a third for him, provided he would sign an extension that was reasonable. AJ would mean no more Zay for sure. Doubt anyone puts much value on Zay at this point. 50/50 on him being available. Personally I think the Bengals would be crazy to trade him. Mike Brown has done some head scratchers so who knows! I hope the Bills get a shot if so. They would be crazy not too... I cant see them franchise tagging a 30+ yo WR coming off an injury plagued year... so he is 100% a goner, and they are going no where this year. The bills are desperate for a real WR. Trade a 4th for Green and if we don't resign him the draft is loaded with elite wr talent next year 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan714 Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 1 minute ago, Augie said: Well, you TOTALLY missed the point. Lofton was on the street. We did NOT have to give up draft picks, we did NOT have to give him a huge contract. He represented quality and value, and he was healthy. AJ is NOT that. Great player, but still......NOT the deal Lofton was. Next year offers great value in the deep WR draft. Young, talents, and cheap. I bet the FO goes that route. Are we in some sort of cap hell next year that I am not aware of? Over the cap has us at 87 million under in 2020. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 1 minute ago, billsfan714 said: Are we in some sort of cap hell next year that I am not aware of? Over the cap has us at 87 million under in 2020. I’ve got money in the bank. I’m not going out to buy a broken down Ferrari tomorrow. We will hopefully have a lot of quality young guys to sign in the next few years. We are drafting like nobody’s business! Life lesson: never be stupid about money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motor26 Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 22 minutes ago, Augie said: I’ve got money in the bank. I’m not going out to buy a broken down Ferrari tomorrow. We will hopefully have a lot of quality young guys to sign in the next few years. We are drafting like nobody’s business! Life lesson: never be stupid about money. The only guy who will command a lot of money in the next couple of years will be White. They need to get weapons. They could sign Green and draft a wideout. Money is not an issue at this point for the Bills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 15 minutes ago, Motor26 said: The only guy who will command a lot of money in the next couple of years will be White. They need to get weapons. They could sign Green and draft a wideout. Money is not an issue at this point for the Bills. I don’t mind spending money. In fact, maybe we should personally be far more restrained. But I like to spend wisely, and I’m not sure this would be the case. I won’t HATE it if they go that way, but I have reservations on an older, more expensive and frequently injured guy. P.S. I bet Tre is not the only guy needing cash coming up. Not just this offseason, but in the coming few years. I’m all for spending someone else’s money, but I want it done wisely. Not just because we have it today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motor26 Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 9 minutes ago, Augie said: I don’t mind spending money. In fact, maybe we should personally be far more restrained. But I like to spend wisely, and I’m not sure this would be the case. I won’t HATE it if they go that way, but I have reservations on an older, more expensive and frequently injured guy. P.S. I bet Tre is not the only guy needing cash coming up. Not just this offseason, but in the coming few years. I’m all for spending someone else’s money, but I want it done wisely. Not just because we have it today. Sure, they’ll pay Milano a decent contract. But they don’t have to pay a quarterback for another 3 years, if Allen pans out. By then guys that are wastes of money like Star and Murphy will be gone, Jerry too. They should spend smart but they need to grab good players in free agency. Not spend it on guys like Kroft, Murphy, Star. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 1 minute ago, Motor26 said: Sure, they’ll pay Milano a decent contract. But they don’t have to pay a quarterback for another 3 years, if Allen pans out. By then guys that are wastes of money like Star and Murphy will be gone, Jerry too. They should spend smart but they need to grab good players in free agency. Not spend it on guys like Kroft, Murphy, Star. AJ doesn’t come in free agency. He has two sets of costs, acquisition and the contract. The way these guys draft, I’m hesitant to give up draft choices. Look at last year’s draft. If we are that close, cool. But I hate to give up anything in future drafts, great players who come cheap. I know some of the VERY bright guys on this board say spend the money now on a guy like AJ or Julio, I’m just not so sure. I won’t hate it if it happens, though. I’m on board with this FO. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 I’d rather go after Boyd than Green. Green’s best days are behind him. Boyd is entering his prime and I doubt hes gonna re-sign with Bengals next year. He’s the big physical WR this offense needs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetermansRedemption Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 Just now, BuffaloRebound said: I’d rather go after Boyd than Green. Green’s best days are behind him. Boyd is entering his prime and I doubt hes gonna re-sign with Bengals next year. He’s the big physical WR this offense needs. Your reasons for wanting him are the precise reasons the Bengals will keep him. Unless they can get a haul for him that included a first. With the upcoming WR draft class I’m not very interested in shipping out our 2020 1st for Boyd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 Just now, Bills2ref said: Your reasons for wanting him are the precise reasons the Bengals will keep him. Unless they can get a haul for him that included a first. With the upcoming WR draft class I’m not very interested in shipping out our 2020 1st for Boyd. Thought he was still on his rookie deal. Didn’t realize he signed an extension in July. But his contract is very reasonable the next 3 years and he’s young. I’d give up our late 1st next year for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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wvbillsfan Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 I really just want Foster to start getting consistent snaps. Where is the guy that was arguably the most exciting player on the field during the second half of the season? We have seen him make more plays in half a season than Zay Jones has made in his pro career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 The 2020 draft is a very good for WR's. If WR is one of the few weaknesses this team has going into 2020, the Bills will have a lot going for them. No matter how this season plays out, the Bills will be in line to select a very good prospect at the WR position, regardless of draft position and if they decide to go WR in the first round, of course. That said, I am not trading a high draft choice in 2020 for a vet WR that will not guarantee the Bills anything in 2019. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 7 hours ago, Augie said: I’m becoming a HUGE Knox fan! . I said before the draft this was a great TE class. It is why I was staunchly against drafting Hock top 10. While I think he is good I never saw top 10 talent and there was a glut of guys behind him that I believed could really play. A couple of them have ended up on injured reserve already but just this weekend Fant had a touchdown, Foster Moreau had a touchdown, Knox had a couple of big catches. It was the best TE class in as long as I have been evaluating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 5 hours ago, wvbillsfan said: I really just want Foster to start getting consistent snaps. Where is the guy that was arguably the most exciting player on the field during the second half of the season? We have seen him make more plays in half a season than Zay Jones has made in his pro career. Yeah, this one is hard to figure out. Zay's best quality as a WR is blocking, the Bills' coaching staff values that highly. I get it. But the non-use of Foster is baffling. Has he regressed that much--or not developed? Is he that incompetent in blocking? Or route running? It seems to me its time to give others a serious look at the 3rd WR position: Foster, Williams, Roberts even ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPar_v2 Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 6 hours ago, wvbillsfan said: I really just want Foster to start getting consistent snaps. Where is the guy that was arguably the most exciting player on the field during the second half of the season? We have seen him make more plays in half a season than Zay Jones has made in his pro career. Hurt, at least recently. And when he was healthy he wasn’t beating out luminaries like Zay Jones in camp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 9 hours ago, Process said: They would be crazy not too... I cant see them franchise tagging a 30+ yo WR coming off an injury plagued year... so he is 100% a goner, and they are going no where this year. The bills are desperate for a real WR. Trade a 4th for Green and if we don't resign him the draft is loaded with elite wr talent next year 250 × Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 8 hours ago, Motor26 said: The only guy who will command a lot of money in the next couple of years will be White. They need to get weapons. They could sign Green and draft a wideout. Money is not an issue at this point for the Bills. Poyer and Milano will need to be resigned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 7 hours ago, BuffaloRebound said: I’d rather go after Boyd than Green. Green’s best days are behind him. Boyd is entering his prime and I doubt hes gonna re-sign with Bengals next year. He’s the big physical WR this offense needs. And he’s already proven he can get the Bills to the playoffs? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r00tabaga Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 Boyd reminds me of Andre so much. Even wears his number! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 Hopeless Bengals Need to Trade A.J. Green in Lost Year, but Who Could Be Buyers? https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2856073-hopeless-bengals-need-to-trade-aj-green-in-lost-season-but-who-could-be-buyers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 They showed AJ on the sideline last night and sure looked like a guy who wants out of Cincinnati...now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsMafia13 Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 10 hours ago, Augie said: AJ doesn’t come in free agency. He has two sets of costs, acquisition and the contract. The way these guys draft, I’m hesitant to give up draft choices. Look at last year’s draft. If we are that close, cool. But I hate to give up anything in future drafts, great players who come cheap. I know some of the VERY bright guys on this board say spend the money now on a guy like AJ or Julio, I’m just not so sure. I won’t hate it if it happens, though. I’m on board with this FO. Great point, I hate to say it but McBeane doesnt have an eye for offensive talent like the do on D. Pay for the sure thing if it doesnt cost too much in the draft 9 hours ago, BuffaloRebound said: I’d rather go after Boyd than Green. Green’s best days are behind him. Boyd is entering his prime and I doubt hes gonna re-sign with Bengals next year. He’s the big physical WR this offense needs. Not to target just you but idt anybody realizes Boyd got extended this offseason. No chance they move him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUFFALOTONE Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 If the Bills give up anything substantial for an often injured, 31 year old WR who wants a new deal then Beane needs his head examined. No way they do this, they have spent 2 years shedding these old deals and would be shocked if they went after him. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimKellyTryouts Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 If we can't get AJ Green, maybe Emmanuel Sanders could be a solid target? Near the end of his deal on a team that is nowhere near contention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hebert19 Posted October 1, 2019 Author Share Posted October 1, 2019 Just saying. Its us or we let the pats steal him for a 5th or something likely. Ha "An injured AJ Green clearly wasn't impressed with yet another Bengals loss" https://twitter.com/i/events/1178889320528089089 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2020 Our Year For Sure Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 Get it done so Zay Jones can !@#$ off. We need actual threats to the defense on either side of the field- John Brown by himself is not enough against good secondaries. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 Why would the Bengals want to trade him exactly? Are they thinking of tanking? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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