VW82 Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 Courtesy of ESPN writer Bill Barnwell: https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/27680783/barnwell-stacking-surprises-nfl-seven-3-0-teams There's much more in the link. Quote Not surprising: This is the best defense in football. Most people should realize by now that the Bills have a good defense, but that has undersold the story for a while. In 2017, Sean McDermott took over what had been the league's 27th-ranked defense by DVOA under Rex Ryan and immediately pushed it to 15th. While the Bills failed to return to the playoffs and took a step backward in 2018, the defense wasn't the problem. Leslie Frazier's defense allowed 47 points to the Ravens in last year's season opener and then 31 points to the Chargers in a game most famous for Vontae Davis retiring at halftime, but the Bills have been a dominant defense ever since. Quote Over their last 17 games -- from Week 3 of 2018 on -- here's where the Bills rank in a few key defensive rate statistics: Buffalo's Dominant Defense CATEGORY STAT RANK Drives/Gm 11.8 29th Avg Starting FP 69.4 31st Pts/Drive 1.51 3rd Yds/Drive 24.8 1st TD% 17.1% 3rd TO% 16.1% T-2nd Score% 28.1% 3rd Three-and-Out% 36.2% 1st No unit has things harder than the Bills' defense, which faces a ton of drives and inherits terrible starting field position from an offense that turns over the ball too frequently. The Bills have gone up against 29 drives beginning on their own side of the field, almost always after an offensive takeaway. To contrast, the Patriots -- who rank just ahead of the Bills in points allowed per drive -- have faced 14 such drives over that time frame. The Chiefs have faced just five. So basically our defense is once again saving our bacon. Hopefully the offense starts to pick up the pace and do their part too. Once that happens the sky's the limit for this group. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billieve420 Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 (edited) Here comes 50 from the Pats. I hate when these articles come out so early in the season. The Bills have a good defense let's see where they finish up at the end of the year. Edited September 23, 2019 by billieve420 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 2 minutes ago, billieve420 said: Here comes 50 from the Pats. I hate when these articles come out so early in the season. The Bills have a good defense let's see where they finish up at the end of the year. That's the spirit!! 16 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 1 minute ago, billieve420 said: Here comes 50 from the Pats. I hate when these articles come out so early in the season. The Bills have a good defense let's see where they finish up at the end of the year. We gave up 23, 37, 25 and 24 to them since McDermott took over. It's going to take a great day by our offense and we'll have a shot. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Dokken Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 If it makes you feel better, he goes on to say that maybe the Packers, and definitely the Pats, may have better claims to “the best defense in football”. We’re number 3!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 (edited) I'll change that to best coached and most disciplined. They lack pass rush and it's going to hurt them this week. Edited September 23, 2019 by Buffalo_Stampede Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 6 minutes ago, billieve420 said: Here comes 50 from the Pats. I hate when these articles come out so early in the season. The Bills have a good defense let's see where they finish up at the end of the year. It’s not just this season... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billieve420 Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 Bills will need to score at least 30 if they want to have a shot in this game. Pats will put up points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 The defense is the identity of our team....the offense is still a work in progress but At least the offense now has some talent to compete.....instead of a defense that would play lights out last year in losses 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 5 minutes ago, billieve420 said: Here comes 50 from the Pats. I hate when these articles come out so early in the season. The Bills have a good defense let's see where they finish up at the end of the year. I don't see it, not this year. They might, and I say MIGHT, put up 30 at the most imo. Gronk has usually killed us and they have no Gronk. They may not have Edelman either possibly. There is no Hogan. Their OL is a shadow of it's former self in years past. Our depth on defense is totally different along the line and at CB. I expect a close game with both teams scoring in the 20's. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reader Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 9 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: We gave up 23, 37, 25 and 24 to them since McDermott took over. It's going to take a great day by our offense and we'll have a shot. Maybe this is revisionist history on my part, but I think some of those games the Bills D was able to keep the points low most of the game only to eventually wear down due to the offense not making due on their end of the bargain. If the offense can actually put up points and sustain drives it might look different this time around. 5 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 But Mike Schopp wants us to know he really doesn't know if we're good or just another Bills team. Because of who we've beat. This is so sad. Why am I subjecting myself to this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 This defense is around defcon 3 as far as needing a DE that can pressure the QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 "When will we know if we're good?" Holy cow. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 Our season really hinges on 3 players. 1. Allen 2a Morse 2b Hughes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stank_Nasty Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 (edited) Waiting to here from a certain few posters in this one. We all know who they are. oh by the way the run d that they were concerned with is now top 10 after facing bell, Barkley and mixon Edited September 23, 2019 by Stank_Nasty 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 Just now, Call_Of_Ktulu said: Our season really hinges on 3 players. 1. Allen 2a Morse 2b Hughes I'd put Tre at 2b. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 18 minutes ago, Gugny said: That's the spirit!! It’s in the glove compartment. Have a snort! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwistofFate Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 Patriots will be exposed on Sunday. National media falls all over them because it sells. Ive said it before and ill say it again, we are statistically on par with them offensively and better than them defensively. This team will be ready for them on Sunday in every way. Imo the Bengals are much more potent than NE on offense. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zow2 Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 Belichek always manages to confuse our offense or throw different wrinkles at them. NOw he has a very good D so that's a bit worrisome this week. Hey, how about the Bills staff come up with a few wrinkles to confuse ol' Tom and company ?!?!? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 3 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: I'd put Tre at 2b. Tre is a good CB but I think we can double team or mix up coverages to get by. If we lose Allen, Morse or Hughes this season will take a dive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 This Sunday will be dependent on Josh not making mistakes and McD and his staff coming up with a good game plan. They can't do what they did against the Bengals and expect to beat the Pats. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, zow2 said: Belichek always manages to confuse our offense or throw different wrinkles at them. NOw he has a very good D so that's a bit worrisome this week. Hey, how about the Bills staff come up with a few wrinkles to confuse ol' Tom and company ?!?!? My wrinkle would be if we start loosing we just blitz every play and hit the QB as much as possible. Edited September 23, 2019 by Call_Of_Ktulu 3 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 Just now, Call_Of_Ktulu said: My wrinkle would be if we start loosing we just blitz even play and hit the QB as much as possible. From your keyboard to McDermott and Frazier's ears Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 22 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: We gave up 23, 37, 25 and 24 to them since McDermott took over. It's going to take a great day by our offense and we'll have a shot. If Josh takes what the defense gives him and don't play hero ball, we'll win this game. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 6 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: But Mike Schopp wants us to know he really doesn't know if we're good or just another Bills team. Because of who we've beat. This is so sad. Why am I subjecting myself to this. I don't know how anyone can be a fan of this team over the last 20 years and not live week to week with tempered expectations. I dont like Schopp, but I also dont disagree with him here. We havent played anyone, and we havent been able to top 30 points in any of those games. This is a scoring league and the Bills havent shown they can do that in a manner that crushes the other team. I still think the team can go 11-5, but if anyone is walking into this game thinking the Patriots are going to be surprised they really need to get a grip on reality. Our young quarterback has 2 multi touchdown games in 14 tries, and 6 multi interception games. Turning the ball over against the Patriots is a recipe for disaster. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 32 minutes ago, billieve420 said: Here comes 50 from the Pats. I hate when these articles come out so early in the season. The Bills have a good defense let's see where they finish up at the end of the year. BBFS at its finest! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 13 minutes ago, Call_Of_Ktulu said: Our season really hinges on 3 players. 1. Allen 2a Morse 2b Hughes It's mostly all on Allen and his development. Franchise guys can elevate WRs and the OL play... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 28 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: We gave up 23, 37, 25 and 24 to them since McDermott took over. It's going to take a great day by our offense and we'll have a shot. Right, and how many of those points were scored by the Pats*** defense or because of short fields given up by Buffalo's poor offense? News flash -- if Buffalo's offense shows up to play the way it has so far this season, this will be a tightly-contested ballgame. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 15 minutes ago, Call_Of_Ktulu said: Our season really hinges on 3 players. 1. Allen 2a Morse 2b Hughes always was and always will be the offensive line. Give Allen more time to throw, we will be tough to beat. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McNubbins Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 They also say that GB has the best defense in football further down the article. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenhigh Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 6 minutes ago, the skycap said: If Josh takes what the defense gives him and don't play hero ball, we'll win this game. I'd be interested to know what BB thinks about that crazy near pick where Allen completely missed the safety. Is he going to try and bait him with some of those "too good to be true" reads? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 (edited) 17 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said: I don't know how anyone can be a fan of this team over the last 20 years and not live week to week with tempered expectations. I dont like Schopp, but I also dont disagree with him here. We havent played anyone, and we havent been able to top 30 points in any of those games. This is a scoring league and the Bills havent shown they can do that in a manner that crushes the other team. I still think the team can go 11-5, but if anyone is walking into this game thinking the Patriots are going to be surprised they really need to get a grip on reality. Our young quarterback has 2 multi touchdown games in 14 tries, and 6 multi interception games. Turning the ball over against the Patriots is a recipe for disaster. Then stop being a coward (not you Schopp) and say you don't think the QB is good enough. Make no mistake when he says "is this team good enough?" what he's really saying is "is this QB good enough?" Because no one in their right mind doesn't think this D is a super bowl D. That whole station. Low info and chicken *bleeps* They told us for months he's not the guy. Spent this whole off season asking "will we know this year is he the guy?" Then do they want to answer these questions? Nope. Because they will never accept they may have been wrong. I have no idea how good he's going to be. I'll know when it's time to move on if he doesn't show he is. But he's done the opposite. So in the meantime they should do what we're all doing and that's enjoying the ride. When I'm not listening to them of course---I feel I have to today. Edited September 23, 2019 by Big Blitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 16 minutes ago, eball said: BBFS at its finest! At least we are winning so the Billspolar are medicated at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 6 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: Then stop being a coward (not you Schopp) and say you don't think the QB is good enough. Make no mistake when he says "is this team good enough?" what he's really saying is "is this QB good enough?" Because no one in their right mind doesn't think this D is a super bowl D. That whole station. Low info and chicken *bleeps* They told us for months he's not the guy. Spent this whole off season asking "will we know this year is he the guy?" Then do they want to answer these questions? Nope. Because they will never accept they may have been wrong. I have no idea how good he's going to be. I'll know when it's time to move on if he doesn't show he is. But he's done the opposite. So in the meantime they should do what we're all doing and that's enjoying the ride. When I'm not listening to them of course---I feel I have to today. This we agree on. I have a feeling he will be off the Lamar train soon too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 51 minutes ago, Don Dokken said: If it makes you feel better, he goes on to say that maybe the Packers, and definitely the Pats, may have better claims to “the best defense in football”. We’re number 3!! At least it's better than 23 ! As long as the offense can put up 1 more point than the opponent a win is a win as ugly as it may be & if they can do that against the Pats I'm all for it !! GO BILLS !!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocket94 Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 46 minutes ago, billieve420 said: Bills will need to score at least 30 if they want to have a shot in this game. Pats will put up points. We don't know that. If the defense shows up ready to work and plays as mistake free as possible they have the ability to slow down the Pats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlCowlingsTaxiService Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 sports writer says something negative: "He's an idiot, screw that ahole" Same writer says something positive: "OMG repost repost, this guy gets IT, he's a damn football savant!" LMAO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 6 minutes ago, AlCowlingsTaxiService said: sports writer says something negative: "He's an idiot, screw that ahole" Same writer says something positive: "OMG repost repost, this guy gets IT, he's a damn football savant!" LMAO You can post or say all the negative you want......tweet all summer about bad passes and dumb plays. But if you barely ever include the positives and proceed like an insufferable know it all as you cover this team then you're just a hack mad that Rosen sucks and you may* have been wrong. *Who. Freaking. Knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 Opponents so far this year have been severely limited from an offense standpoint. No elite WRs to face. Below average lines. Competent at best QB play and very good backs that for the most part have been kept in check. Bills DBs match up favorably against the Pats receivers. Can the Bills pass rush make a difference Sunday? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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