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Oliver is gonna be damn good - earned PFFs highest rated Bill in Wk1


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2 hours ago, Dat said:

 

Popped on Jets board for delicious tears, and they mentioned Quinnen with a Zero stat line.

Didn't hear his named called all game, possibly affected the bad snap?

 

Only Play I remember seeing from him...  

 

What I dont want to see more of though was Ed Oliver in Coverage, lets throw that Zone blitz out of the playbook

11 minutes ago, wppete said:

Monster!!!

 

 

 

And that is Waters, a 320LB pretty darn good OG

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37 minutes ago, MAJBobby said:

 

Only Play I remember seeing from him...  

 

What I dont want to see more of though was Ed Oliver in Coverage, lets throw that Zone blitz out of the playbook

 

And that is Waters, a 320LB pretty darn good OG

 

Dumping the guard like that is amazing. He looked exactly like A. Donald.  But the burst that follows is really impressive too. 91 is Brady kryptonite. Dante will take notice.

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“Nine times out of 10, the guy who gets the push is not going to be the guy who gets the sack, so I just tried to help my team execute and help myself execute,” Oliver said in the victorious locker room. “Just play to the best of my ability. If I get sack, cool, if I don't and my guys around me get a sack — as long as a linebacker or a DB or something don't get the sack, we good.”

 

https://buffalonews.com/2019/09/09/buffalo-bills-skurski-ed-oliver-nfl-new-york-jets/

 

 

Great attitude from the rookie too. 

 

It was refreshing to see the line as a whole play really well. They were stuffing run lanes, batting passes, collapsing the pocket, and rarely let Darnold have time to sit comfortably in the pocket. 

 

 

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Not sure if it has been said yet but he was the highest graded Bill per PFF in week 1 scoring an 80.3. 

 

EDIT: sorry 2nd highest. Sweeney, the 7th round rookie, scored an 89.1

2 hours ago, JoshAllenHasBigHands said:

Oliver was nice, but TJ and Brown were absurd yesterday....

 

 

 

AJ Brown too. But Oliver was even better on a 2nd watch. 

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11 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

Not sure if it has been said yet but he was the highest graded Bill per PFF in week 1 scoring an 80.3. 

 

EDIT: sorry 2nd highest. Sweeney, the 7th round rookie, scored an 89.1

 

AJ Brown too. But Oliver was even better on a 2nd watch. 

 

I'm trying to wean myself off PFF, but I'd be lying if I said I didn't love hearing that. 

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2 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

I don't know if this will hold but he has looked better than Knox so far.

 

Agree. I think the time Knox has missed has hurt. Sweeney seems to have the offense down better at this point. 

3 minutes ago, JoshAllenHasBigHands said:

 

I'm trying to wean myself off PFF, but I'd be lying if I said I didn't love hearing that. 

 

PFF is a tool. If you base everything on it you are in trouble but some of what they do is really useful. 

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13 hours ago, Freddie's Dead said:

Ed Oliver had a good game today.  No major rookie mistakes except for that drop back, for which I can't blame him.  Frazier, WTF you thinkin'?  C'mon man, just turn this dog loose and let him hunt.

 

Need to go find the post for credit, but another poster noted zone defenses will do this occasionally to mix up pre-snap looks to avoid patterns in pass rush. It's not like they asked him to do it repeatedly, and in all honesty thought the one he let slip to (Crowder?) wasn't entirely on him and he recovered fine. They know where his talents lie and what they want him doing; but mixing up his looks will help him to avoid being relentlessly double teamed or overlooked in a quick pre-snap read.

 

16 hours ago, Reed83HOF said:
 

 

^it's hard to pick a single standout when he had such great pressures yesterday - but what I love about this most isn't just the processing of the play action, his acceleration was surprising enough to Darnold to force a quicker, inaccurate throw because he either didn't expect the speed; deer in the headlights'd him; or both.

 

In fact, it even looks like Darnold misses this throw because he's already anticipating the hit from Oliver (at around 10 or 11 seconds in) - he's falling backwards before he even starts his arm motion, and has barely any footwork to note here. That kind of disruption might get a tally in the pressures column, but the impact will eventually lead to turnovers if this remains consistent with Oliver.

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27 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

Now I'm confused.  Do we love PFF because they rated Oliver high, or hate PFF because they dissed the h*** out of Allen?

PFF is a love/hate relationship.

13 minutes ago, John Adams said:

Come on haters. This thread is serving the best kind of delicious crow! What fan doesn't love being wrong when a guy turns out well. 

Someone thought Oliver?

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6 hours ago, elroy16 said:

 

https://buffalonews.com/2019/09/09/buffalo-bills-skurski-ed-oliver-nfl-new-york-jets/

“Nine times out of 10, the guy who gets the push is not going to be the guy who gets the sack, so I just tried to help my team execute and help myself execute,” Oliver said in the victorious locker room. “Just play to the best of my ability. If I get sack, cool, if I don't and my guys around me get a sack — as long as a linebacker or a DB or something don't get the sack, we good.”

 

Great attitude from the rookie too. 

 

It was refreshing to see the line as a whole play really well. They were stuffing run lanes, batting passes, collapsing the pocket, and rarely let Darnold have time to sit comfortably in the pocket. 

 

What is wrong with LB or DB getting the sack?   Often their coverage is what gets you the sack.

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15 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

 

And McDermott and Frazier used Murphy and Shaq right. Shaq was out there plenty on early downs, Murphy was in their rush package. 

Agreed, but I'd also say that Shaq seems to have a little bounce in his step. Looks a tad lighter. Murphy still bothers me when he completely takes himself out of a play, but he brings some heat when healthy. I feel quite a bit better about the position as a whole than I did going into the season. 

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9 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said:

 

He had a good game, yes. I've already confessed my poor prior opinion on him.

 

 

 

Game 1 rookie debut: About as good as anyone could dream. 

 

He will draw double teams now and that will be interesting, but he made a lot of people better this week. 

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5 hours ago, Joe in Winslow said:

 

He had a good game, yes. I've already confessed my poor prior opinion on him.

 

 

I’m in the same boat with you. I thought he would be too small for DT in this league. It’s only 1 game, but I’m liking what I saw. Ive never been so happy to be wrong (so far). 

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9 hours ago, Joe in Winslow said:

 

He had a good game, yes. I've already confessed my poor prior opinion on him.

 

 

 

I did tell you.... he should have gone no later than 2nd overall in the draft. That he refused to take off a jacket and slid to #9 for the Bills was an absolute joke that the rest of the NFL will regret. 

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3 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

I did tell you.... he should have gone no later than 2nd overall in the draft. That he refused to take off a jacket and slid to #9 for the Bills was an absolute joke that the rest of the NFL will regret. 

Makes me wish the Pats kept Bodine around after what I just watched

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