MAJBobby Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 2 hours ago, Dat said: Popped on Jets board for delicious tears, and they mentioned Quinnen with a Zero stat line. Didn't hear his named called all game, possibly affected the bad snap? Only Play I remember seeing from him... What I dont want to see more of though was Ed Oliver in Coverage, lets throw that Zone blitz out of the playbook 11 minutes ago, wppete said: Monster!!! And that is Waters, a 320LB pretty darn good OG 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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JoshAllenHasBigHands Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 6 minutes ago, wppete said: Oliver was nice, but TJ and Brown were absurd yesterday.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 4 minutes ago, JoshAllenHasBigHands said: Oliver was nice, but TJ and Brown were absurd yesterday.... Great debuts but want to see them against real defenses first 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starrymessenger Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 37 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: Only Play I remember seeing from him... What I dont want to see more of though was Ed Oliver in Coverage, lets throw that Zone blitz out of the playbook And that is Waters, a 320LB pretty darn good OG Dumping the guard like that is amazing. He looked exactly like A. Donald. But the burst that follows is really impressive too. 91 is Brady kryptonite. Dante will take notice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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MAJBobby Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 9 minutes ago, JoshAllenHasBigHands said: Oliver was nice, but TJ and Brown were absurd yesterday.... What is interesting is Brown did what he did and was ONLY on the field for 12 plays total Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshAllenHasBigHands Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 11 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Great debuts but want to see them against real defenses first Totally fair. I doubt they keep it up, and its easier for rookie lineman to do so week in and week out, but wow, what an opening week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 And wait til he gets even stronger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elroy16 Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 Quote “Nine times out of 10, the guy who gets the push is not going to be the guy who gets the sack, so I just tried to help my team execute and help myself execute,” Oliver said in the victorious locker room. “Just play to the best of my ability. If I get sack, cool, if I don't and my guys around me get a sack — as long as a linebacker or a DB or something don't get the sack, we good.” https://buffalonews.com/2019/09/09/buffalo-bills-skurski-ed-oliver-nfl-new-york-jets/ Great attitude from the rookie too. It was refreshing to see the line as a whole play really well. They were stuffing run lanes, batting passes, collapsing the pocket, and rarely let Darnold have time to sit comfortably in the pocket. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 I was impressed by Oliver and he showed that he’s got both a bright future and likely going to be an impact player as a rookie. This draft could prove to be special for the Bills, as well as last years. Love this team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 (edited) Not sure if it has been said yet but he was the highest graded Bill per PFF in week 1 scoring an 80.3. EDIT: sorry 2nd highest. Sweeney, the 7th round rookie, scored an 89.1 2 hours ago, JoshAllenHasBigHands said: Oliver was nice, but TJ and Brown were absurd yesterday.... AJ Brown too. But Oliver was even better on a 2nd watch. Edited September 9, 2019 by GunnerBill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshAllenHasBigHands Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 11 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Not sure if it has been said yet but he was the highest graded Bill per PFF in week 1 scoring an 80.3. EDIT: sorry 2nd highest. Sweeney, the 7th round rookie, scored an 89.1 AJ Brown too. But Oliver was even better on a 2nd watch. I'm trying to wean myself off PFF, but I'd be lying if I said I didn't love hearing that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 11 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Sweeney, the 7th round rookie, scored an 89.1 I don't know if this will hold but he has looked better than Knox so far. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 2 minutes ago, HappyDays said: I don't know if this will hold but he has looked better than Knox so far. Agree. I think the time Knox has missed has hurt. Sweeney seems to have the offense down better at this point. 3 minutes ago, JoshAllenHasBigHands said: I'm trying to wean myself off PFF, but I'd be lying if I said I didn't love hearing that. PFF is a tool. If you base everything on it you are in trouble but some of what they do is really useful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 An effective Oliver changes the whole outlook of the defense. Can get quick pressure up the middle that causes all QB's troubles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctk232 Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 (edited) 13 hours ago, Freddie's Dead said: Ed Oliver had a good game today. No major rookie mistakes except for that drop back, for which I can't blame him. Frazier, WTF you thinkin'? C'mon man, just turn this dog loose and let him hunt. Need to go find the post for credit, but another poster noted zone defenses will do this occasionally to mix up pre-snap looks to avoid patterns in pass rush. It's not like they asked him to do it repeatedly, and in all honesty thought the one he let slip to (Crowder?) wasn't entirely on him and he recovered fine. They know where his talents lie and what they want him doing; but mixing up his looks will help him to avoid being relentlessly double teamed or overlooked in a quick pre-snap read. 16 hours ago, Reed83HOF said: ^it's hard to pick a single standout when he had such great pressures yesterday - but what I love about this most isn't just the processing of the play action, his acceleration was surprising enough to Darnold to force a quicker, inaccurate throw because he either didn't expect the speed; deer in the headlights'd him; or both. In fact, it even looks like Darnold misses this throw because he's already anticipating the hit from Oliver (at around 10 or 11 seconds in) - he's falling backwards before he even starts his arm motion, and has barely any footwork to note here. That kind of disruption might get a tally in the pressures column, but the impact will eventually lead to turnovers if this remains consistent with Oliver. Edited September 9, 2019 by ctk232 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbRiddick Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 Was just reading this thread on another forum (so nice when fans of other teams covet your own players) https://forums.jetnation.com/topic/146716-ed-oliver-vs-q-williams/ 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocket94 Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 17 hours ago, Reed83HOF said: Yeah, he already is pretty good! ha! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Hapless Bills Fan Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 19 hours ago, Reed83HOF said: Now I'm confused. Do we love PFF because they rated Oliver high, or hate PFF because they dissed the h*** out of Allen? 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark80 Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 I always think of the best defenses having a top end player at each level. Oliver, Edmunds, and White all seem to be on that trajectory. Very exciting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 I do not know how they come up with some of these ratings but Oliver made some plays yesterday and for a game one of his career I was highly impressed- and even more so when I realize he made Darnold throw that one like he did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 19 hours ago, DCofNC said: Wow, i thought he was pretty much invisible today Stop drinking during the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 20 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said: I thought that at first but Sweeney was actually #1. Oliver was #2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Adams Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 Come on haters. This thread is serving the best kind of delicious crow! What fan doesn't love being wrong when a guy turns out well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlayoffsPlease Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 12 hours ago, Doc Brown said: Yeah. Never go full Rex Ryan. You should not use the R word. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boca BIlls Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 (edited) 27 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Now I'm confused. Do we love PFF because they rated Oliver high, or hate PFF because they dissed the h*** out of Allen? PFF is a love/hate relationship. 13 minutes ago, John Adams said: Come on haters. This thread is serving the best kind of delicious crow! What fan doesn't love being wrong when a guy turns out well. Someone thought Oliver? Edited September 9, 2019 by Boca BIlls 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 6 hours ago, elroy16 said: https://buffalonews.com/2019/09/09/buffalo-bills-skurski-ed-oliver-nfl-new-york-jets/ “Nine times out of 10, the guy who gets the push is not going to be the guy who gets the sack, so I just tried to help my team execute and help myself execute,” Oliver said in the victorious locker room. “Just play to the best of my ability. If I get sack, cool, if I don't and my guys around me get a sack — as long as a linebacker or a DB or something don't get the sack, we good.” Great attitude from the rookie too. It was refreshing to see the line as a whole play really well. They were stuffing run lanes, batting passes, collapsing the pocket, and rarely let Darnold have time to sit comfortably in the pocket. What is wrong with LB or DB getting the sack? Often their coverage is what gets you the sack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 20 hours ago, Doc said: I was upset he didn't get the sack on Darnold. Me to. But damn, whatever DC doesn't put two guys on him they are asking for trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 34 minutes ago, Limeaid said: What is wrong with LB or DB getting the sack? Often their coverage is what gets you the sack. I'd guess he was making a joke about competition between the position groups. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 15 hours ago, GunnerBill said: And McDermott and Frazier used Murphy and Shaq right. Shaq was out there plenty on early downs, Murphy was in their rush package. Agreed, but I'd also say that Shaq seems to have a little bounce in his step. Looks a tad lighter. Murphy still bothers me when he completely takes himself out of a play, but he brings some heat when healthy. I feel quite a bit better about the position as a whole than I did going into the season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Adams Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 2 hours ago, Boca BIlls said: Someone thought Oliver? @Joe in Winslow has been a skeptic since day one. Come on Joe, you know you liked him in game 1! Enjoy the kid kicking ass up the middle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 Just now, John Adams said: @Joe in Winslow has been a skeptic since day one. Come on Joe, you know you liked him in game 1! Enjoy the kid kicking ass up the middle. He had a good game, yes. I've already confessed my poor prior opinion on him. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Adams Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 9 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said: He had a good game, yes. I've already confessed my poor prior opinion on him. Game 1 rookie debut: About as good as anyone could dream. He will draw double teams now and that will be interesting, but he made a lot of people better this week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 22 hours ago, BillsFan4 said: Our defensive line as a whole looked night and day different from last season. We can finally get pressure on the QB again! With that secondary and LBs , can easily be looking at the best d in the game 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 5 hours ago, Joe in Winslow said: He had a good game, yes. I've already confessed my poor prior opinion on him. I’m in the same boat with you. I thought he would be too small for DT in this league. It’s only 1 game, but I’m liking what I saw. Ive never been so happy to be wrong (so far). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giuseppe Tognarelli Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 Encouraging! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 9 hours ago, Joe in Winslow said: He had a good game, yes. I've already confessed my poor prior opinion on him. I did tell you.... he should have gone no later than 2nd overall in the draft. That he refused to take off a jacket and slid to #9 for the Bills was an absolute joke that the rest of the NFL will regret. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalo2218 Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 3 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: I did tell you.... he should have gone no later than 2nd overall in the draft. That he refused to take off a jacket and slid to #9 for the Bills was an absolute joke that the rest of the NFL will regret. Makes me wish the Pats kept Bodine around after what I just watched Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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