Reed83HOF Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick the Greek Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 3 hours ago, nucci said: but it's the last year of his contract...if they don't want to pay him, fine but it's not a cap issue....his contract is done after this season Per Rotoworld: “The Bills had stated numerous times all offseason they were committed to McCoy despite the obvious writing on the wall. McCoy, 31, was headed into the final year of his deal, and the move clears $6.425 million in cap space for Buffalo.” https://www.rotoworld.com/football/nfl/player/937/lesean-mccoy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 21 minutes ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: Are you friggin kidding me!! We can draft picks for bums but not Shady!? we should have traded him when McDermott got here and got something in return, as i said back then. They didn’t have his replacement until 4 months ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 2 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said: They are letting him keep the outfit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 Id rather have Shady over Yeldon. We save in cap space but we dont need that in this time of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 Does anyone really think there would be some huge disparity in YPC between Shady and TJ Yeldon? Yeldon averaged 4.0 last season. McCoy hasn't been above that mark since 2016. And yes, the line gave McCoy no place to run in 2018, but that doesn't mean time stood still. He got a year older and a year slower. Yeldon is obviously younger and a solid receiver. He's a JAG, but JAG's can be of some value at RB. I think people are reacting to this more sentimentally than rationally. I loved watching McCoy do his thing and wish him the best; but there's really not all that much to see here in terms of football production. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said: They didn’t have his replacement until 4 months ago The backs we had/ could get would have been fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 2 minutes ago, Nick the Greek said: Per Rotoworld: “The Bills had stated numerous times all offseason they were committed to McCoy despite the obvious writing on the wall. McCoy, 31, was headed into the final year of his deal, and the move clears $6.425 million in cap space for Buffalo.” https://www.rotoworld.com/football/nfl/player/937/lesean-mccoy This is kind of a funny little side note to this whole story that I have been thinking about today. There has been strong vocal support of Shady coming out of OBD for a while now! It turns out what they really meant was "we intend to cut his ass off the team." Keep this in mind. You can't trust these guys and you have to remember they aren't in the business of telling the truth. Fans never seem to catch onto this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 8 minutes ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: Rbs are easy to replace wouldn't have been a problem. Then you just killed your own argument. If RB’s are easily replaced, then why would a team trade for a RB at age 29....with his salary? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 9 minutes ago, CodeMonkey said: Likely no other GM wanted Shady's contract. Now that he's released he will get picked up by a team making a run this season when their RB gets hurt. He won't make nearly as much money, but could net him a ring. I wish him the best. Not surprised he was let go, but surprised they couldn't get anything in a trade? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 1 minute ago, Royale with Cheese said: Then you just killed your own argument. If RB’s are easily replaced, then why would a team trade for a RB at age 29....with his salary? 1 minute ago, Royale with Cheese said: Then you just killed your own argument. If RB’s are easily replaced, then why would a team trade for a RB at age 29....with his salary? The point is we have had way more draft capital if we traded him and we wouldn't have had to use multiple picks on Allen and Edmunds. Trust me someone would have offered us something for him back then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 8 minutes ago, LSHMEAB said: Does anyone really think there would be some huge disparity in YPC between Shady and TJ Yeldon? Yeldon averaged 4.0 last season. McCoy hasn't been above that mark since 2016. And yes, the line gave McCoy no place to run in 2018, but that doesn't mean time stood still. He got a year older and a year slower. Yeldon is obviously younger and a solid receiver. He's a JAG, but JAG's can be of some value at RB. I think people are reacting to this more sentimentally than rationally. I loved watching McCoy do his thing and wish him the best; but there's really not all that much to see here in terms of football production. I see what you did there ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPL7 Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 The reality with McCoy is that he would have been a problem in the locker room as soon as his carries dipped. And with 3 to 4 backs splitting carries, his numbers were going to be negatively affected. Shady seems less concerned with playoff wins and super bowls and more into getting his stats higher to make the HOF. He is a selfish stats guy, not a team player. He doesn't fight for yards, in fact he collapses the moment he gets touched. Why? Because he doesn't want any unnecessary wear and tear, because it will hinder his longevity and ability to get to 12,000 yards and a potential HOF spot. Simple as that. This is a good move by Beane after realizing that Singletary is ready to make an impact. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 Wade seems like going make initial 53 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 Just now, MAJBobby said: Wade seems like going make initial 53 24 minutes! It’s incredible, really. I’m guessing the team got word he wouldn’t make it to the PS if he hits the street. Hey! He’s a threat to visit the house every time he touches the ball! I’ll believe it when I see it.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mead107 Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 Hope wade stays Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 5 minutes ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: The point is we have had way more draft capital if we traded him and we wouldn't have had to use multiple picks on Allen and Edmunds. Trust me someone would have offered us something for him back then. So a 4th would have been worth it back then? Why would we not have had to use multiple picks for Allen and Edmunds with a Shady trade? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 2 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: So a 4th would have been worth it back then? Why would we not have had to use multiple picks for Allen and Edmunds with a Shady trade? because we have tanked aka as rebuilding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevewin Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 Havent gone thru this whole thread, not sure if its been mentioned Shady's notable absence from the presumed "leadership council" last week. In hindsight that was telling. BTW, perhaps this thread should be locked at 25 pages as a last homage to Shady Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 1 minute ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: because we have tanked aka as rebuilding. Holy hypothetical Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 (edited) 12 minutes ago, stevewin said: Havent gone thru this whole thread, not sure if its been mentioned Shady's notable absence from the presumed "leadership council" last week. In hindsight that was telling. BTW, perhaps this thread should be locked at 25 pages as a last homage to Shady Posted a couple weeks back Shadys days were numbered when Bills did a big “ 25 Days to Season Opener” tweet and instead of Shady I being featured was Lorax. Was only joking then, but combine that with how he was not shown in Embedded at all, that tweet, no leadership council... think they knew for a while what the plan was. Might be why Shady is pissed. Edited August 31, 2019 by plenzmd1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeF Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 Shady and Anthony Lynn reunion? Ian Rapoport @RapSheet · 1m Some potentially big news for the #Chargers: They have given the reps for Melvin Gordon permission to seek a trade, sources say. He’ll explore his options, which include returning. But big few days. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 33 minutes ago, Nextmanup said: This is kind of a funny little side note to this whole story that I have been thinking about today. There has been strong vocal support of Shady coming out of OBD for a while now! It turns out what they really meant was "we intend to cut his ass off the team." Keep this in mind. You can't trust these guys and you have to remember they aren't in the business of telling the truth. Fans never seem to catch onto this. Or Maybe football is a business....and saying "we are going to cut his ass" when they are trying to actually get something for him would be BAD FOR BUSINESS I cant believe this has to be explained to you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 38 minutes ago, Nick the Greek said: Per Rotoworld: “The Bills had stated numerous times all offseason they were committed to McCoy despite the obvious writing on the wall. McCoy, 31, was headed into the final year of his deal, and the move clears $6.425 million in cap space for Buffalo.” https://www.rotoworld.com/football/nfl/player/937/lesean-mccoy I said it wasn't a cap issue...not that they wouldn't have a savings....obviously since they are no longer paying him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turk71 Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 Not surprised at all, he was easily the most overpaid back in the league the last 2 years. I was surprised they were still stating their commitment to him this year. Maybe they have a plan for that 6.4 million in cap savings, or they just roll it over to next year. Either way I think it is the right move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steptide Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 1 hour ago, SloanBillsFan said: Who are you, the Incredible Erskine?!? Man did you ever call it! Just calling it like I saw it lol 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoTom Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 2 minutes ago, nucci said: I said it wasn't a cap issue...not that they wouldn't have a savings....obviously since they are no longer paying him True, it wasn't strictly a cap issue, but the cap is always a factor in the equation. This is more about roster space and the future, and that $6M will roll over into next year's cap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihilarian Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 1 hour ago, NoSaint said: Even you said WAS not IS Yea, freudian slip I suppose...I really meant is. I think he still on an elite level above other RB's with his shiftiness and speed. Kinda tough to make three guys miss getting to the LoS or getting hit as soon as he touched the ball in last years offense. Opposing teams knew that McCoy was the Bills best player on offense so they would go all out to stop him. Last years offense really had no other weapon even close to his ability. ...and they still might not. Time will tell. I sure hope Singletary shows more than he did in preseason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDingus Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 People are overlooking the worst part of all this... Shady & Allen's super neato TD super secret handshake high five celebration thingy will now be gone! How will Josh celebrate in style now?!?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Element115 Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 I hope this means Singletary is the starter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 45 minutes ago, JoeF said: Shady and Anthony Lynn reunion? Ian Rapoport @RapSheet · 1m Some potentially big news for the #Chargers: They have given the reps for Melvin Gordon permission to seek a trade, sources say. He’ll explore his options, which include returning. But big few days. Could be but u don’t think the news on Gordon changes that. No one is trading anything of value for a RB and paying him premium money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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gobills1212 Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, Dopey said: Wasted valuable seconds replying to this. As youve now wasted valuable time replying to the reply. I think you miss the play here further more. I keep hoping youll rise up and prove your handle is not apt:) I found it funny hes worried about time - yet had time to type that. Its funny, dare i say even slightly ironic. The way you chose to waste your time however might be ironic, but not in the funny way... Edited August 31, 2019 by gobills1212 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 20 minutes ago, BigDingus said: People are overlooking the worst part of all this... Shady & Allen's super neato TD super secret handshake high five celebration thingy will now be gone!How will Josh celebrate in style now?!?! More frequently now, so more practice will make perfect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 46 minutes ago, nucci said: I said it wasn't a cap issue...not that they wouldn't have a savings....obviously since they are no longer paying him If McCoy were making what Yeldon is making I think he would have been kept instead...........so in that sense I think it WAS a cap issue. It's a sound move saving the money. They still desperately need a WR1 and elite pass rusher going forward and the only eggs in those nests are Bob Foster and Bam Johnson.........so they will likely be needing to buy at least one of those next year if they want one they can count on for a full season. An extra $6.5M is only like 1/3 of a season salary for one of those in FA so it's not going to go far if shopping for elite players at key positions.........but it is a tangible savings to roll forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 39 minutes ago, Nihilarian said: Yea, freudian slip I suppose...I really meant is. I think he still on an elite level above other RB's with his shiftiness and speed. Kinda tough to make three guys miss getting to the LoS or getting hit as soon as he touched the ball in last years offense. Opposing teams knew that McCoy was the Bills best player on offense so they would go all out to stop him. Last years offense really had no other weapon even close to his ability. ...and they still might not. Time will tell. I sure hope Singletary shows more than he did in preseason. I think if you grab a list of top running backs you’d be hard pressed to find any you would take shady over at this point. He’s at best average and certainly on the decline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 1 hour ago, Chandler#81 said: I see what you did there ? Well, he USED to be a JAG. Now I'm hoping for more. On a totally unrelated and nonsensical note prompted by this response, I'm no longer going to preface "JAG" with "A." It's redundant. Kind of like RBI"S" in baseball. I've weaned myself off that one entirely. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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NoSaint Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 3 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: If McCoy were making what Yeldon is making I think he would have been kept instead...........so in that sense I think it WAS a cap issue. It's a sound move saving the money. They still desperately need a WR1 and elite pass rusher going forward and the only eggs in those nests are Bob Foster and Bam Johnson.........so they will likely be needing to buy at least one of those next year if they want one they can count on for a full season. An extra $6.5M is only like 1/3 of a season salary for one of those in FA so it's not going to go far if shopping for elite players at key positions.........but it is a tangible savings to roll forward. I think it’s also a touch of attitude. Think shady takes a 50-50 role, for instance? Or handles being asked for a wage reduction to reflect his new situation? youd have to pay and play him as a clear cut 1 and I’m not sure they loved either of those 1 minute ago, Reed83HOF said: Expected completely, assumingely for the squad exemption 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Boo Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 He'll be a 49er by Wednesday . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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