StHustle Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 Im looking forward Bell being on the receiving end of a couple "Welcome Back to the NFL" hits from our boys in a couple weeks. 19 months without taking on live game contact is a loooong time. I think it's a foolish move for Gase to give him 0 touches in the preseason. There is a thing called being overcautious. https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/27435439/jets-bell-need-teammates-hit-practice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceVilanch Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 I might be in the minority here, but I think Leveon is going to have a great season and I am not looking forward to having to deal with him twice a year. The first game might be a knock off the rust game but I think by October he'll be back to his all pro form. I also think it's the height of stupidity to hold him out of Preseason action. 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GETTOTHE50 Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 1 hour ago, BruceVilanch said: I might be in the minority here, but I think Leveon is going to have a great season and I am not looking forward to having to deal with him twice a year. The first game might be a knock off the rust game but I think by October he'll be back to his all pro form. I also think it's the height of stupidity to hold him out of Preseason action. The Jets O-line is terrible and teams will put 8 to 9 players in the box. Gase also does not like to use only one back. In the end, I think their team is going to be a disaster. Maybe even more so than the fins. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DallasMac Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 With his patient running style and their horrible offensive line I just dont see him doing much aside from being a productive receiver. I think he'll have his worst year as a runner. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefenseWins Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 I also find it just a bit unrealistic to think that after sitting out all the preseason that Bell will look like his old self in wk 1 against a Bills defense that will be ready to knock him on his a$$. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimKellyTryouts Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, GETTOTHE50 said: The Jets O-line is terrible and teams will put 8 to 9 players in the box. Gase also does not like to use only one back. In the end, I think their team is going to be a disaster. Maybe even more so than the fins. Eh, yeah Gase never used one back exclusively, but that shouldn't mean anything in the present since he never has had someone as talented on Bell - on paper and on the field. Jets OL will definitely make him not put up as great numbers as he did all his Steelers years, but good players can mask talent deficiencies on a roster. Bringing Kalil out of retirement could be a huge plus, compared to all those awful snaps Darnold received in his game against us (and others). Thinking that the jets could be worse than the fins? Come on dude. Edited August 22, 2019 by JimKellyTryouts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 LET'S ALL HIT HIM... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 I am skeptical of Bell's being able to step right in and pick up where he left off--plus, he had one of the consistently best lines in the NFL in Pittsburgh (i.e., see James Conner's production last year). Having said that, I'm glad we get him in game one, as he will improve as the season moves along .... provided the Jets o-line improves. Honestly, he doesn't scare me considering the entire situation in NY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 5 hours ago, BruceVilanch said: I might be in the minority here, but I think Leveon is going to have a great season and I am not looking forward to having to deal with him twice a year. The first game might be a knock off the rust game but I think by October he'll be back to his all pro form. I also think it's the height of stupidity to hold him out of Preseason action. He’s been on the shelf for over a year, he was out of shape for most of that, he’s shown he doesn’t care about his team, he no longer has a top 5 OL, top 5 QB, or top 5 WR to distract the defense. All that to say- I disagree. ? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan17 Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 1 minute ago, whatdrought said: He’s been on the shelf for over a year, he was out of shape for most of that, he’s shown he doesn’t care about his team, he no longer has a top 5 OL, top 5 QB, or top 5 WR to distract the defense. All that to say- I disagree. ? He was out of shape? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 21 minutes ago, BillsFan17 said: He was out of shape? Well, that I suppose was conjecture... but there were reports that he was 260 at one point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloboyinATL Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 6 hours ago, BruceVilanch said: I might be in the minority here, but I think Leveon is going to have a great season and I am not looking forward to having to deal with him twice a year. The first game might be a knock off the rust game but I think by October he'll be back to his all pro form. I also think it's the height of stupidity to hold him out of Preseason action. Please tell me you are the real Bruce Vilanch. I would love to know that he is a real life Bills fan. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddaryl Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 People bemoan too much hard contact and fear injuries, but there is a lot to be said about acclimation being part of preparation. Less so during the season but training camp / preseason has its place. That being said the real beatings will not start till week 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, buffaloboyinATL said: Please tell me you are the real Bruce Vilanch. I would love to know that he is a real life Bills fan. maybe, maybe not but this guy is https://buffalonews.com/2016/12/12/6-famous-buffalo-bills-fans/ Edited August 22, 2019 by ShadyBillsFan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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buffaloboyinATL Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 1 minute ago, ShadyBillsFan said: maybe, maybe not but this guy is Yup. Buffalo native I believe. We also have Wolf Blitzer and Nick Bakay. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, buffaloboyinATL said: Yup. Buffalo native I believe. We also have Wolf Blitzer and Nick Bakay. Yup. Wolf and Bill are in the link I added to the post Edited August 22, 2019 by ShadyBillsFan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloboyinATL Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 1 minute ago, ShadyBillsFan said: Yes to Wolf. Wolf and Bill are in the link I added to the post Cool. I just found an even more comprehensive list: https://www.newyorkupstate.com/buffalo-bills/2017/07/the_most_famous_buffalo_bills_fans_chad_michael_murray_wolf_blitzer_more.html OP, sorry for the hijack. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florida Bills Fanatic Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 36 minutes ago, whatdrought said: He’s been on the shelf for over a year, he was out of shape for most of that, he’s shown he doesn’t care about his team, he no longer has a top 5 OL, top 5 QB, or top 5 WR to distract the defense. All that to say- I disagree. ? I agree with you completely on this. The Jests are a dumpster fire. Injuries, suspensions and lack of talent on the o-line don't bode well for them. I think the Jests and Miami are in a race to the bottom of the AFCE. I don't personally care which one finishes at the bottom as long as both lose a lot of games on that journey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bray Wyatt Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 Anyone think Gore could offer us some insight into Gase's offense? might help week 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 6 hours ago, BruceVilanch said: I might be in the minority here, but I think Leveon is going to have a great season and I am not looking forward to having to deal with him twice a year. The first game might be a knock off the rust game but I think by October he'll be back to his all pro form. I also think it's the height of stupidity to hold him out of Preseason action. I think the exact opposite. I think both he and Antonio Brown are going to find out that its not quite as easy without Big Ben. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 not the smartest guy....stay healthy leveon bills fans know all too well what a great back looks like behind a crap o-line Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 I can hardly remember the LAST time he was on the field 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JESSEFEFFER Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 7 hours ago, BruceVilanch said: I might be in the minority here, but I think Leveon is going to have a great season and I am not looking forward to having to deal with him twice a year. The first game might be a knock off the rust game but I think by October he'll be back to his all pro form. I also think it's the height of stupidity to hold him out of Preseason action. The last time the Steelers played here, I was struck by Bell's running style. It was extremely patient. It was like he knew his o-line would eventually create a downfield crease and all he had to do was wait for it to happen. That is not the norm and I doubt it works with the Jets. He will have to adjust and be quicker to the line whether there is a hole there or not. Otherwise, I'd predict a bunch of TFLs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLTbills Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 I can't wait for Edmunds to destroy him 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StHustle Posted August 22, 2019 Author Share Posted August 22, 2019 21 minutes ago, Bray Wyatt said: Anyone think Gore could offer us some insight into Gase's offense? might help week 1 Gore being who he is will offer his insight I'm sure. How much it would help outside of the film available I'm not so sure. Either way I see the Bills leaving the Meadowlands 2-0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trogdor Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 The Bills still need to prove they can stop the run. The Jets and Dolphins always seem to gash us, no matter how bad they are that year. We haven't even played against true #1s in preseason yet, so let's just take a step back. That guy is a beast and should be afforded some respect in both running and pass catching. 7 minutes ago, CLTbills said: I can't wait for Edmunds to destroy him I love Edmunds, but the guy has never been a big tackler. He uses his size more than power. It was a knock on him before the draft and I haven't seen much different up to now. I don't really care as long as he makes the tackle, but he isn't really using the hit stick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 3 minutes ago, Trogdor said: I love Edmunds, but the guy has never been a big tackler. He uses his size more than power. It was a knock on him before the draft and I haven't seen much different up to now. I don't really care as long as he makes the tackle, but he isn't really using the hit stick. Oliver will shake the screen if he gets a clean run on him though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trogdor Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 Just now, H2o said: Oliver will shake the screen if he gets a clean run on him though. Oliver is a monster. He has already shown that ability to beat probowlers and double teams. I have no idea how playing nosetackle undersized didn't boost his draft stock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 5 hours ago, GETTOTHE50 said: The Jets O-line is terrible and teams will put 8 to 9 players in the box. Gase also does not like to use only one back. In the end, I think their team is going to be a disaster. Maybe even more so than the fins. You know if teams put 9 men in the box, 1 of the 3 WR will probably be uncovered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badassgixxer05 Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 13 minutes ago, StHustle said: Either way I see the Bills leaving the Meadowlands 2-0 That would be awesome. I'm going to the opener, so the hype would be real coming home undefeated! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 Pit fight vs gore please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 6 hours ago, GETTOTHE50 said: The Jets O-line is terrible and teams will put 8 to 9 players in the box. Gase also does not like to use only one back. In the end, I think their team is going to be a disaster. Maybe even more so than the fins. Darnold is going to be good, I really do hate to say it. Jets and Bills will be a heated rivalry for a long time me thinks. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 I've been all aboard the "Le'veon is gonna have a terrible season for the Jets" train, but you know what? I think he'll be alright. I mean...lord knows they've gotten production from guys like Elijah McGuire and Bilal Powell the past few seasons. If THOSE guys can eek out production behind that bad offensive line, Bell should at least be a 1,000 yard rusher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 4 minutes ago, Logic said: I've been all aboard the "Le'veon is gonna have a terrible season for the Jets" train, but you know what? I think he'll be alright. I mean...lord knows they've gotten production from guys like Elijah McGuire and Bilal Powell the past few seasons. If THOSE guys can eek out production behind that bad offensive line, Bell should at least be a 1,000 yard rusher. Barring injury, I think Bell is going to put up 1,200 yards on the ground even after a year off. He's a great player. He will also force a defense to play honest giving Darnold some opportunities in the passing game that he didn't have last year off of play action and such. Overall though, I don't like their OL, their CB's, and their HC is worse. Gase might have been a decent OC (primarily because Peyton Manning can make anyone look good), but so far he has been terrible as a HC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBeane Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 40 minutes ago, Sunshower said: Darnold is going to be good, I really do hate to say it. Jets and Bills will be a heated rivalry for a long time me thinks. I'm in this boat... I am holding out hope that he is horrible, Gase is the same he was for the Fins, and Le'veon is a shadow of himself. However I feel like the Bills and Jets are on the same trajectory and as long as both QBs progress the Bills/Jets games are going to be tough outs. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 50 minutes ago, klos63 said: You know if teams put 9 men in the box, 1 of the 3 WR will probably be uncovered. You almost have to stack passing lanes against Gase offenses though. Almost all the passes are really short - with the occasional deep shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 45 minutes ago, Logic said: I've been all aboard the "Le'veon is gonna have a terrible season for the Jets" train, but you know what? I think he'll be alright. I mean...lord knows they've gotten production from guys like Elijah McGuire and Bilal Powell the past few seasons. If THOSE guys can eek out production behind that bad offensive line, Bell should at least be a 1,000 yard rusher. If Bell is only a 1,000 yard rusher, he better have 1,000 receiving as well or that signing was a failure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 5 minutes ago, TheBeane said: I'm in this boat... I am holding out hope that he is horrible, Gase is the same he was for the Fins, and Le'veon is a shadow of himself. However I feel like the Bills and Jets are on the same trajectory and as long as both QBs progress the Bills/Jets games are going to be tough outs. I think Darnold is already on a trajectory to being a great QB. I'm not sure how Gase got that job. He's not the QB guru he makes himself out to be. From a yardage perspective his offenses have always ranked in the 20s - unless he had that Peyton Manning character basically co-offensive coordinating and playing HOF level QB. Then again - they almost hired Mike McCarthy... so they gotta be happy that they didn't do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 Jets fans seem pretty high on their team, but most teams fans are this time of year. Similar to us, I don't really know what to expect. Both with talented 2nd year QB's. The only slight edge I would give them over us (entering the season) is at WR/TE/RB, but that's assuming Bell is Bell of old and i'm including Herndon, who is out against us Week One. We have a similar DL, better LB's, better Secondary and a better OL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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