cd1 Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 6 hours ago, Stallions said: I thought Josh looked very poor in the 1st pre-season game. The same accuracy issues as last year and the lack of game instincts. His release is slow and if he keeps running the ball when he feels no receiver is open he'll get hurt. As a LEADER for the offense he seems very immature. A lot of nice talk to the media and in his Buffalo area commercials but he just doesn't come-off as THE GUY!! With the HC in his 3rd season he needs WINS! Will he allow Josh to decide his fate??? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 1 hour ago, Element115 said: Finally a post that makes sense, I didn't understand all the other spam posts. I agree about McDermott and his lack of talent evaluation skills. Passing on Mahomes and drafting a "tools" QB could prove to be yet another huge Bills blunder. This is why I think Mahomes and Allen will always be linked to many Bills fans in terms of their career paths. It’s fair to question a 2nd year QB’s possible future progress. But you joined less than a day ago and your 12 posts consistently spew negativity regarding Allen with your ‘always’ & ‘nevers’. This is what WE call spam. The threads you’ve chosen to spice up within your element accurately label you a troll with an agenda with an alarmingly short life expectancy. Consider yourself warned. 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 I stopped reading at Josh looked very poor. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 This is not sports talk radio. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nervous Guy Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 This thread is a tribute to this board being able to self moderate.....good job guys! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skibum Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 I do think he tries too hard to be The Man, everybody’s All-American QB and face of the franchise, and that’s a big burden for a young guy. Maybe focus more on the football until you get the technique down, then take all the selfies you want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 From Jim Kubiak -- who analyzes QB play for the Buffalo News -- in this article: it was clear in Thursday night's preseason opener against the Indianapolis Colts that Allen is miles ahead of where he was this time last season. That begs the question, how much can he grow, and what will his growth mean to the Bills? Allen was very poised and in command in his limited action against the Colts in front of a home crowd, leading the Bills during the first two drives of the game. He completed 6 of 11 passes for 66 yards in 16 offensive plays, and rushed for 8 yards while scrambling for a first down. He looked comfortable in the pocket, reading and deciphering coverage and making throws accurately and on time. Allen’s performance grade in his 16 plays was near perfect at 95%, accounting for just one missed throw that occurred while attempting a curl route to his right on third-and-6 of the first drive. 6 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan1959 Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 1 minute ago, skibum said: I do think he tries too hard to be The Man, everybody’s All-American QB and face of the franchise, and that’s a big burden for a young guy. Maybe focus more on the football until you get the technique down, then take all the selfies you want. He is the face of the franchise at the moment and he seems to be handling that burden just fine - and managing to do it in an incredibly humble and respectful way. To criticize him in this area is to just be looking for things to criticize... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 I have missed a lot in a short period of time on this board. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 8 hours ago, Stallions said: I thought Josh looked very poor in the 1st pre-season game. The same accuracy issues as last year and the lack of game instincts. His release is slow and if he keeps running the ball when he feels no receiver is open he'll get hurt. As a LEADER for the offense he seems very immature. A lot of nice talk to the media and in his Buffalo area commercials but he just doesn't come-off as THE GUY!! With the HC in his 3rd season he needs WINS! Will he allow Josh to decide his fate??? You’re absolutely right and I’m glad you said it. It takes real courage. We definitely need to go with the QB who shows the best command of the offense. Even in the preseason, against second string players, command is command and it’s where legends are born. That’s why Peterman won the job last season and we moved on from him too soon. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 I come here and am glad I never got into the meth. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 Just now, Virgil said: You’re absolutely right and I’m glad you said it. It takes real courage. We definitely need to go with the QB who shows the best command of the offense. Even in the preseason, against second string players, command is command and it’s where legends are born. That’s why Peterman won the job last season and we moved on from him too soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 8 hours ago, Stallions said: I thought Josh looked very poor in the 1st pre-season game. The same accuracy issues as last year and the lack of game instincts. His release is slow and if he keeps running the ball when he feels no receiver is open he'll get hurt. As a LEADER for the offense he seems very immature. A lot of nice talk to the media and in his Buffalo area commercials but he just doesn't come-off as THE GUY!! With the HC in his 3rd season he needs WINS! Will he allow Josh to decide his fate??? Are you done ?? dont forget to flush the toilet 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niagara Dude Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 8 hours ago, Stallions said: I thought Josh looked very poor in the 1st pre-season game. The same accuracy issues as last year and the lack of game instincts. His release is slow and if he keeps running the ball when he feels no receiver is open he'll get hurt. As a LEADER for the offense he seems very immature. A lot of nice talk to the media and in his Buffalo area commercials but he just doesn't come-off as THE GUY!! With the HC in his 3rd season he needs WINS! Will he allow Josh to decide his fate??? Our QB will be fine, i think Sean will be fired after this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 Just now, Niagara Dude said: Our QB will be fine, i think Sean will be fired after this season. If our QB will be fine why would Sean be fired after this season?? OOOH because our defense sucks got it 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CincyBillsFan Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 17 minutes ago, eball said: From Jim Kubiak -- who analyzes QB play for the Buffalo News -- in this article: it was clear in Thursday night's preseason opener against the Indianapolis Colts that Allen is miles ahead of where he was this time last season. That begs the question, how much can he grow, and what will his growth mean to the Bills? Allen was very poised and in command in his limited action against the Colts in front of a home crowd, leading the Bills during the first two drives of the game. He completed 6 of 11 passes for 66 yards in 16 offensive plays, and rushed for 8 yards while scrambling for a first down. He looked comfortable in the pocket, reading and deciphering coverage and making throws accurately and on time. Allen’s performance grade in his 16 plays was near perfect at 95%, accounting for just one missed throw that occurred while attempting a curl route to his right on third-and-6 of the first drive. When I read this I was even more encouraged about what I saw Thursday night. I respect Kubiak's opinion and thought he was very fair AND honest last year in his appraisals of Allen. On the other hand I'm not sure why someone would start such an odd thread. It was as if the thread starter hadn't watched the first 2 possessions that Allen was in on. It has to be pure trolling but why waste the time? I guess I'm guilty of feeding the trolls by responding. Maybe 2BD should set up a special thread for all the Allen haters to congregate in and post their wisdom. That way we could have the opportunity to troll them. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 (edited) 8 hours ago, Stallions said: I thought Josh looked very poor in the 1st pre-season game. The same accuracy issues as last year and the lack of game instincts. His release is slow and if he keeps running the ball when he feels no receiver is open he'll get hurt. As a LEADER for the offense he seems very immature. A lot of nice talk to the media and in his Buffalo area commercials but he just doesn't come-off as THE GUY!! With the HC in his 3rd season he needs WINS! Will he allow Josh to decide his fate??? thanks for stopping by and leaving your trash behind... 8 minutes ago, Niagara Dude said: Our QB will be fine, i think Sean will be fired after this season. I hope you don't get paid to think because you would be one broke puppy. Edited August 10, 2019 by DaBillsFanSince1973 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CincyBillsFan Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 14 minutes ago, aristocrat said: I come here and am glad I never got into the meth. I don't think meth has the pharmacological strength to warp reality in the way this thread has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aceman_16 Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 9 hours ago, Stallions said: I thought Josh looked very poor in the 1st pre-season game. The same accuracy issues as last year and the lack of game instincts. His release is slow and if he keeps running the ball when he feels no receiver is open he'll get hurt. As a LEADER for the offense he seems very immature. A lot of nice talk to the media and in his Buffalo area commercials but he just doesn't come-off as THE GUY!! With the HC in his 3rd season he needs WINS! Will he allow Josh to decide his fate??? Wait....what this post is serious??!!?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Chandler#81 Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 Ok, which one of you guys opened Pandora’s cretin box? @Augie, it was you, wasn’t it? Such a jokester. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 You are to hard on a 2nd year QB playing with new WRs and a completely new OL that is also missing the starting center. Not to mention a sure TD dropped by Zay Jones. I give him a B+ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 7 hours ago, bills11 said: I disagree with this completely ..Josh looked fine he had a touchdown dropped...and two plays called back by penalty the only truly poor throw he made was the low one to Zay jones..it's the preseason everything is vanilla all you're trying to go is give the offence some live game reps . Am I the only one who thinks that, while not a great throw, Zay could have come up with the 3rd and 6 pass, and not with extraordinary effort? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Doc said: Am I the only one who thinks that, while not a great throw, Zay could have come up with the 3rd and 6 pass, and not with extraordinary effort? Doc, I was hoping the "Droppies " were behind us. In all my years as a fan I have never seen any team drop as many passes as this team. The Sills drop was a complete joke, has to be driving McDermott nuts Edited August 10, 2019 by HOUSE 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 6 minutes ago, Doc said: Am I the only one who thinks that, while not a great throw, Zay could have come up with the 3rd and 6 pass, and not with extraordinary effort? No, but the miscreants got here 1st, spewing their Allen hate & discontent. The rest of us have just gone ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JESSEFEFFER Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 9 hours ago, Stallions said: I thought Josh looked very poor in the 1st pre-season game. The same accuracy issues as last year and the lack of game instincts. His release is slow and if he keeps running the ball when he feels no receiver is open he'll get hurt. As a LEADER for the offense he seems very immature. A lot of nice talk to the media and in his Buffalo area commercials but he just doesn't come-off as THE GUY!! With the HC in his 3rd season he needs WINS! Will he allow Josh to decide his fate??? Maybe this is your point? Can it be possible that the Bills start 2 and 2 and Doug Sean would bench E.J. Josh after only 4 games into his 2nd NFL season and less than a full year's worth of starts? I mean there is such a thing as patience and letting a young player figure it out but there is also the coach's reputation to consider in light of his next head coaching job opportunity once he exercizes the out clause in his contract. On the other hand, if Zay hangs on to the ball, Josh goes 7 of 11 for 80+ yards and a TD and I doubt Sean has an out clause. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 13 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said: No, but the miscreants got here 1st, spewing their Allen hate & discontent. The rest of us have just gone ? OK, good. When I saw it in real time I thought it was a good pass and a drop. After rewatching it, it was low but Zay had a play on it. But even if we ignore that, Josh should have finished 7-11 (63.6%) for 84 yards (7.6 YPA) and a TD. I'll take it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Element115 Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 3 hours ago, Chandler#81 said: It’s fair to question a 2nd year QB’s possible future progress. But you joined less than a day ago and your 12 posts consistently spew negativity regarding Allen with your ‘always’ & ‘nevers’. This is what WE call spam. The threads you’ve chosen to spice up within your element accurately label you a troll with an agenda with an alarmingly short life expectancy. Consider yourself warned. What about all the "pizza posts" and the like in this thread, are they considered spam? If not, I'm confused. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 Just now, Element115 said: What about all the "pizza posts" and the like in this thread, are they considered spam? If not, I'm confused. Well, that’s a start in the right direction.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 6 minutes ago, Element115 said: What about all the "pizza posts" and the like in this thread, are they considered spam? If not, I'm confused. Hey you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkAF43 Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 I still think if the OP doesn’t respond to their thread and defend their position they just receive a ban. It’s ridiculous. Defend your position Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 (edited) 22 minutes ago, Element115 said: What about all the "pizza posts" and the like in this thread, are they considered spam? If not, I'm confused. Pizza is pizza. Spam is spam. I've never put spam on pizza. That might be an idea for future consideration, though. Are you saying you don't like pizza? Welcome to TBD! What are your thoughts on Josh and our HC? Edited August 10, 2019 by Gugny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lieutenant Aldo Raine Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 45 minutes ago, Doc said: Am I the only one who thinks that, while not a great throw, Zay could have come up with the 3rd and 6 pass, and not with extraordinary effort? No, you are not alone. The radio announcers said the same thing. Two things about that play: (1) Allen definitely made a poor throw, and (2) Zay ran his route 5-6 yards past the first down marker before making his curl. Perhaps that was by design or perhaps he ran a bad route. However, Zay had made his curl before Allen uncorked the ball, so Allen could have made a better throw. That said, if Zay doesn't extend his route so deep, he would have been in much better position to catch the ball. Bottom line though, Allen just missed the throw and he knows it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MILFHUNTER#518 Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 (edited) I agree with Gugny, pizza is good. Crystal Meth is ok, i am just more of a black tar heroin man myself. Has a good aura when you freebase it. Edited August 10, 2019 by MILFHUNTER#518 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 9 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said: Now I got to take a shot with my next beer. I said “look man, come down here” He said “whatchu want?” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 3 minutes ago, MILFHUNTER#518 said: I agree with Gugny, pizza is good. Crystal Meth is ok, i am just more of a black tar heroin man myself. Has a good aura when you freebase it. Brooke Mueller, is that you? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 Somebody needs to check Virgil’s basement for pods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cripple Creek Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 10 hours ago, Stallions said: I thought Josh looked very poor in the 1st pre-season game. The same accuracy issues as last year and the lack of game instincts. His release is slow and if he keeps running the ball when he feels no receiver is open he'll get hurt. As a LEADER for the offense he seems very immature. A lot of nice talk to the media and in his Buffalo area commercials but he just doesn't come-off as THE GUY!! Hmmmmm. Not at all what I saw. Did you tune in to the wrong game or are you a troll? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 Break down every throw- he looked pretty great good. The overthrow to Sweeney was a timing route, if he wasnt held it was right on the money. The low throw to Zay was on Allen, but still catchable. The throw to Zay at the goal line was a pure drop by Zay. The mis que on the back shoulder out to Brown was on Brown, didnt break it off in time and get the ball. No interceptions, no hand off gaffs. Not a bad night for 11 total starts and the first pre season game with lots of new parts. 11 hours ago, Stallions said: I thought Josh looked very poor in the 1st pre-season game. The same accuracy issues as last year and the lack of game instincts. His release is slow and if he keeps running the ball when he feels no receiver is open he'll get hurt. As a LEADER for the offense he seems very immature. A lot of nice talk to the media and in his Buffalo area commercials but he just doesn't come-off as THE GUY!! With the HC in his 3rd season he needs WINS! Will he allow Josh to decide his fate??? Explain how he is immature? Do you understand developmental milestones? Seems tp me he is right on track. This post needs to go in the dumpster. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 This is one of the worlds hottest sauce. It is said that you will have an Anal Holocaust when attempting to use the restroom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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