Predictable things fans overreact to

[Yoho]

Having followed the Bills for 56 years I have watched annual trends that are totally predictable.  Here is a list of annual events that you can count on

 

1. Fans love guys changing positions.  Make a tight end an offensive lineman, make an offensive lineman a tight end, make a wide receiver a safety and he will become a favorite.  It usually lasts a couple preseason games and then it is over but fans anxiously wait for the next George Wilson or Paul Costa.

 

2.  There is always a big demand for the hot new tight end out of college.  From Kyle Brady to Eric Ebron, there is a clamor for the first round pick to be a tight end.  98% of the time, it was the right decision not to take him.

 

3.  The pre-season wide receiver de jour.  He is usually an undrafted free agent, sometimes from a small college or the CFL.   He tears things up in the 4th quarter of pre season games and then gets cut to the utter disgust of the fans.  However he usually never gets picked up and the next thing you hear about him, he is an assistant coach at a community college

 

4.  There is always disgust with the drafting of a running back because as we all know they are a dime a dozen on the undrafted free agent market.  These fans seem to have missed that there are teams that have been looking for running backs for 10 years.  And Barkley and Elliot are pretty damn good.

 

5.  Did you ever get the feeling that the fans who call for the firing of the head coach and general manager after every loss probably wouldn't have a job if their boss took the same approach?

 

Please add your own thoughts

 

 

[Augie]

I like #5. A LOT! 

[fansince88]

10 minutes ago, Yoho said:

Having followed the Bills for 56 years I have watched annual trends that are totally predictable.  Here is a list of annual events that you can count on

 

1. Fans love guys changing positions.  Make a tight end an offensive lineman, make an offensive lineman a tight end, make a wide receiver a safety and he will become a favorite.  It usually lasts a couple preseason games and then it is over but fans anxiously wait for the next George Wilson or Paul Costa.

 

2.  There is always a big demand for the hot new tight end out of college.  From Kyle Brady to Eric Ebron, there is a clamor for the first round pick to be a tight end.  98% of the time, it was the right decision not to take him.

 

3.  The pre-season wide receiver de jour.  He is usually an undrafted free agent, sometimes from a small college or the CFL.   He tears things up in the 4th quarter of pre season games and then gets cut to the utter disgust of the fans.  However he usually never gets picked up and the next thing you hear about him, he is an assistant coach at a community college

 

4.  There is always disgust with the drafting of a running back because as we all know they are a dime a dozen on the undrafted free agent market.  These fans seem to have missed that there are teams that have been looking for running backs for 10 years.  And Barkley and Elliot are pretty damn good.

 

5.  Did you ever get the feeling that the fans who call for the firing of the head coach and general manager after every loss probably wouldn't have a job if their boss took the same approach?

 

Please add your own thoughts

 

 

I never went to college but yeah, I would imagine!

[fansince88]

How about this is my XXX# post! That should be coming soon.

[RememberTheRockpile]

One that goes back to at least the 60's is the dual threat QB will replace the traditional pocket passer.

[Putin]

Get out of my head !!!!!

[YoloinOhio]

6. The fan favorite WR who tears up preseason but gets cut will never make it through waivers to be able to be signed to the PS because he’s so awesome that clearly another team will make a spot on the 53. He’s positively definitely going to the Pats and destined for multiple pro bowls. Bills are morons for letting him get away.

 

Days later, he’s sitting on the Bills PS - or his couch - after miraculously passing through waivers.

[White Linen]

Beane has done a good job of making these things more quiet than usual. 

[Doc Brown]

-Preseason games in general.
-Freaking out when the Patriots signing up ex Bills marginal players who showed promise or had previous success (Gilislee, Hogan, J. Matthews, Donald Jones, Gronk's brother, I'm sure there's more).

-Post draft grades from national media.

[BarleyNY]

Fans overreact to players with eye popping measurables even when those players haven’t been successful.  They also blow perceptions about being a hard worker, smart or a good leader way out of proportion.  Often the very existence of those qualities is straight up manufactured.

[Ranger Ranchod]

Articles in mainstream media criticizing your favourite team.

[CaptnCoke11]

3-4 defense.. people think it still actually exists

[BarleyNY]

Also any perceived slight by the media. 

[Ol Dirty B]

57 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

6. The fan favorite WR who tears up preseason but gets cut will never make it through waivers to be able to be signed to the PS because he’s so awesome that clearly another team will make a spot on the 53. He’s positively definitely going to the Pats and destined for multiple pro bowls. Bills are morons for letting him get away.

 

Days later, he’s sitting on the Bills PS - or his couch - after miraculously passing through waivers.

 

I'm telling you, Da'rick would have carried us to the superbowl 

5 minutes ago, BarleyNY said:

Also any perceived slight by the media. 

 

This is really getting out of control. A guy can say I hope I'm wrong because I like Bills fans and then say something critical. The aptly named Bills Mafia (which is a stupid name) will harass them. It's embarrassing.

Edited May 29, 2019 by Ol Dirty B

[Royale with Cheese]

If another starting RB gets injured, McCoy trade threads will start brewing.

[SCBills]

22 minutes ago, Ol Dirty B said:

 

I'm telling you, Da'rick would have carried us to the superbowl 

 

This is really getting out of control. A guy can say I hope I'm wrong because I like Bills fans and then say something critical. The aptly named Bills Mafia (which is a stupid name) will harass them. It's embarrassing.

 

I live in Atlanta, go to the game in Miami every etc..  I don’t know why certain Bills fans whine about Bills Mafia all the time... Bills Mafia is synonymous with Buffalo and is respected af outside of this board apparently.  I see it all over the southeast, where football is king - anytime I tell someone I’m a Bills fan, they respond with how much they love Bills Mafia. 

 

Now, harassing people on Twitter, that’s stupid no matter what.  No arguments there.  

 

Edited May 29, 2019 by SCBills

[cba fan]

11 minutes ago, SCBills said:

 

I live in Atlanta, go to the game in Miami every etc..  I don’t know why certain Bills fans whine about Bills Mafia all the time... Bills Mafia is synonymous with Buffalo and is respected af outside of this board apparently.  I see it all over the southeast, where football is king - anytime I tell someone I’m a Bills fan, they respond with how much they love Bills Mafia. 

 

Now, harassing people on Twitter, that’s stupid no matter what.  No arguments there.  

 

100% agree.

 

It now is Bills Fans name whether you like it or not.

What some fail to understand is it is both the good and the bad behaving Bills fans all grouped together now.

Embrace it. You can still be whichever type of fan you choose.

[whatdrought]

Some of us overreact to positive reports about our QB from OTA’s.............. and it feels good.

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

I’m looking to figure out who will be the newest lightning rod of hatred.... past renditions include in no particular order;

 

- EJ

- Tyrod

- Whitner

- Gilmore

- Hogan 

-Whaley 

 

to name but a few... 

 

it is usually the overachievers who end up being just good enough to start or the high draft picks who some don’t feel live up to their draft ‘cost’ or free agent contract. 

 

Who will we see added to the list? 

 

Who will go from a having a mere handful of haters to drawing the anger of a full blown mob with pitchforks and stones ?

 

how long do Ford and Oliver have to move to unquestioned starter before they are hated busts?

 

if Zay has a drop in preseason but still makes it, who is so done with this team?

 

 

 

 

 

 

[NoHuddleKelly12]

Kelvin Benjamin’s decision not to catch warm up throws from Allen pregame. 

 

 

...Nope, still don’t think my visceral disbelief to that episode was an overreaction, or that of many others here at the time...

Edited May 29, 2019 by NoHuddleKelly12

[cage]

5 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said:

If another starting RB gets injured, McCoy trade threads will start brewing.

 

For a 2nd round pick

[machine gun kelly]

Yoho, I almost misread and thought it was Yolo, but good post.  You just perfectly described the “fly off the handle one way or another” post.

 

Any way, interesting thread from everyone.

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

Thanks, Andy Rooney.

 

[Troll Toll]

There is also the classic under reaction:

 

”It’s only preseason, they are running vanilla offense/defense, surely they won’t be this bad when the real games start.”

 

Low and behold the first team regular season performance looks identical to what we saw in preseason.

[GunnerBill]

7 hours ago, CaptnCoke11 said:

3-4 defense.. people the Ryan Brothers think it still actually exists

 

FIFY.

[eball]

Allowing Mike Gillislie to get away.

[Gugny]

1 hour ago, cage said:

 

For a 2nd round pick

 

In what league?

[Maybe Someday]

Don’t forget about the inevitable midseason “cut them now” threads.  Someone isn’t playing well, doesn’t matter that there’s no one available who is better to replace them with, just cut them now. 

[HOUSE]

Minor injuries

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

2 hours ago, Joe in Winslow said:

Thanks, Andy Rooney.

 

“You know what bugs me?  People!”

*

As for things people overreact to?  Whether your coaching staff wears headphones.  If they do, which members of the coaching staff wear headphones.  I suppose it isn’t as irksome as a coach pretending to write on an iPad.

[cage]

2 hours ago, Gugny said:

 

In what league?

 

The FRL (Fan Reaction League)

[HOUSE]

Jerry Sullivan

[vorpma]

Coaches who clap on the sideline!

[Ethan in Cleveland]

Jason Peters

The Bills have never had a TE make the Pro Bowl in franchise history unless of course you count Jason Peters. No secret I wanted Fant in a trade down this year.

I have no issue taking a RB in the first round if that fills a need. Spiller was drafted with Fred and Marshawn already on the roster. McGahee? Why, so Donahoe can try and prove he is smarter than everyone else? Elliot was drafted after Dallas built best OL in NFL. Get your QB and build the OL and then you can plug in a RB any way you see fit.

I don’t disagree about overhype with WR. Happens almost every year.  Not sure why other than at some level to even make a training camp they must have had a highlight reel at some time. This year it is a guy from the CFL.

 

[Bill from NYC]

10 hours ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

I’m looking to figure out who will be the newest lightning rod of hatred.... past renditions include in no particular order;

 

- EJ

- Tyrod

- Whitner

- Gilmore

- Hogan 

-Whaley 

 

to name but a few... 

 

it is usually the overachievers who end up being just good enough to start or the high draft picks who some don’t feel live up to their draft ‘cost’ or free agent contract. 

 

As for the bolded, how could we expect fans NOT to get mad? EJ was just lousy but a case could be made that Whitner was "good." Gilmore is considered "very good" (although I don't think he was that great in Buffalo). The thing is, how many games did these 3 combined win us. How often did any of them just take over a game and lead us to victory.

 

Hating a player as an individual is much different than hating the second rate, losing draft strategy we had for many years. Maybe in 2019, Oliver and Ford will be productive and dominate their opponents so we can win football games.

13 hours ago, Yoho said:

Having followed the Bills for 56 years I have watched annual trends that are totally predictable.  Here is a list of annual events that you can count on

 

1. Fans love guys changing positions.  Make a tight end an offensive lineman, make an offensive lineman a tight end, make a wide receiver a safety and he will become a favorite.  It usually lasts a couple preseason games and then it is over but fans anxiously wait for the next George Wilson or Paul Costa.

 

2.  There is always a big demand for the hot new tight end out of college.  From Kyle Brady to Eric Ebron, there is a clamor for the first round pick to be a tight end.  98% of the time, it was the right decision not to take him.

 

3.  The pre-season wide receiver de jour.  He is usually an undrafted free agent, sometimes from a small college or the CFL.   He tears things up in the 4th quarter of pre season games and then gets cut to the utter disgust of the fans.  However he usually never gets picked up and the next thing you hear about him, he is an assistant coach at a community college

 

4.  There is always disgust with the drafting of a running back because as we all know they are a dime a dozen on the undrafted free agent market.  These fans seem to have missed that there are teams that have been looking for running backs for 10 years.  And Barkley and Elliot are pretty damn good.

 

5.  Did you ever get the feeling that the fans who call for the firing of the head coach and general manager after every loss probably wouldn't have a job if their boss took the same approach?

 

Please add your own thoughts

 

 

2 and 3 are right on the money.

Edited May 29, 2019 by Bill from NYC

[PetermansRedemption]

10 minutes ago, Ethan in Portland said:

Jason Peters

The Bills have never had a TE make the Pro Bowl in franchise history unless of course you count Jason Peters. No secret I wanted Fant in a trade down this year.

I have no issue taking a RB in the first round if that fills a need. Spiller was drafted with Fred and Marshawn already on the roster. McGahee? Why, so Donahoe can try and prove he is smarter than everyone else? Elliot was drafted after Dallas built best OL in NFL. Get your QB and build the OL and then you can plug in a RB any way you see fit.

I don’t disagree about overhype with WR. Happens almost every year.  Not sure why other than at some level to even make a training camp they must have had a highlight reel at some time. This year it is a guy from the CFL.

 

The thing about Jason Peters is fans can look at it with two different colored glasses? I think it’s fair to be a little disappointed they gave up a pro-bowl LT that was home grown from an UDFA TE. But one can also argue it was great work to mine a first round pick out of an UDFA. 

[freddyjj]

13 hours ago, fansince88 said:

There is always a big demand for the hot new tight end out of college. 

 

13 hours ago, fansince88 said:

I never went to college but yeah, I would imagine!

Married the first one I saw!!!

[Bill from NYC]

21 minutes ago, Bills2ref said:

The thing about Jason Peters is fans can look at it with two different colored glasses? I think it’s fair to be a little disappointed they gave up a pro-bowl LT that was home grown from an UDFA TE. But one can also argue it was great work to mine a first round pick out of an UDFA. 

I can never be resigned to the thought of trading away a Hall of Fame left tackle. Imo Jason Peters was one of the best players in Bills history and I certainly do agree that sure was a great move by the Bills to grab him from the Giants practice squad.

[freddyjj]

6.  (insert Bills Coach name here) is horrible at time management and burns timeouts!  We would have won if he didn't call timeout on opening kickoff!

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

29 minutes ago, Bill from NYC said:

As for the bolded, how could we expect fans NOT to get mad? EJ was just lousy but a case could be made that Whitner was "good." Gilmore is considered "very good" (although I don't think he was that great in Buffalo). The thing is, how many games did these 3 combined win us. How often did any of them just take over a game and lead us to victory.

 

Hating a player as an individual is much different than hating the second rate, losing draft strategy we had for many years. Maybe in 2019, Oliver and Ford will be productive and dominate their opponents so we can win football games.

 

Hating anyone because of anything related to entertainment, the theatre called pro sports, is by definition an overreaction.