C.Biscuit97 Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 It’s a fine signing but I don’t think they know how position value works. Is there another team in the nfl that has 3 veteran rbs making million plus? If there was ever a position you go young and cheap in, it’s rb. Like i said, Yeldon is an ok player but it’s weird how they value the position. I’d rather spend a 4th or lower on a Bryce Love who has more upside and costs way less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaw66 Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 I think we're learning a bit about the kind of running backs McBeane like. They live Shady, but if they can't get a Hall of Fame type runner that want touch bbn inside his with good ball security. I think Yeldon's style is a lot like Gore's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 (edited) So again how does Yeldon hurt anything. Still have not addressed how Signing Yeldon today means we cannot sign a UDFA. So the entire premise here is asinine You need 90 at camp. Those are the hard Facts. And under top 51 rule now for the cap. And without the Yeldon Singing Bills have 31.2M in cap space. So lets look at the position in terms of Cuts. Shady if cut - 2.625M in Dead Cap, but an 8M savings. Frank Gore - 500K in dead Cap, 1.5M savings Senorise Perry - 50K in dead cap, 760K savings Murphy - 0 Dead Cap 720 Savigns Ford - 0 Dead cap - 570 in savings (not even counted now as is because of the top 51 Rule) Edited April 22, 2019 by MAJBobby 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 Per ESPN Yeldon's time with the Jaguars didn't end on good terms. Executive vice president of football operations Tom Coughlin blasted Yeldon and Leonard Fournette for their demeanor on the sidelines during the 2018 finale after both players sat on the bench (Yeldon was active but Fournette was not) and appeared disinterested throughout the 20-3 loss to the Houston Texans. Coughlin released a statement after the game in which he said they were "disrespectful, selfish and their behavior was unbecoming that of a professional football player." You finished 5-11, you gave all indication you were dumping Bortles .... What more should Coughlin expect? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 15 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: It’s a fine signing but I don’t think they know how position value works. Is there another team in the nfl that has 3 veteran rbs making million plus? If there was ever a position you go young and cheap in, it’s rb. Like i said, Yeldon is an ok player but it’s weird how they value the position. I’d rather spend a 4th or lower on a Bryce Love who has more upside and costs way less. Yes, the New England Patriots. NE is the next team on the list for RB/FB positional spending dollars after Buffalo. Once Shady is finished with his contract and if he was replaced next year with a 2nd or 3rd round pick the Bills will be under the league average. https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/positional/breakdown/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsfanAZ Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 I think Beane saw Yeldon as a better option than any 4th round RB in the draft. To me Beane might be looking Bryce Love with one of the 5th round picks knowing he wont be able to play til the 2020 season. The Bills can stash him away knowing no other team is going to sign him away from them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SydneyBillsFan Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 The cynic within me has to ask - if he was any good, why did the Jags let him walk? I also remember Fournette causing us major headaches last year but cannot recall Yeldon doing anything of note. Yeah...not sure about this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mead107 Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 Like I said no need to draft a RB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 1 minute ago, SydneyBillsFan said: The cynic within me has to ask - if he was any good, why did the Jags let him walk? I also remember Fournette causing us major headaches last year but cannot recall Yeldon doing anything of note. Yeah...not sure about this one. Per ESPN Yeldon's time with the Jaguars didn't end on good terms. Executive vice president of football operations Tom Coughlin blasted Yeldon and Leonard Fournette for their demeanor on the sidelines during the 2018 finale after both players sat on the bench (Yeldon was active but Fournette was not) and appeared disinterested throughout the 20-3 loss to the Houston Texans. Coughlin released a statement after the game in which he said they were "disrespectful, selfish and their behavior was unbecoming that of a professional football player." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 1 minute ago, SydneyBillsFan said: The cynic within me has to ask - if he was any good, why did the Jags let him walk? I also remember Fournette causing us major headaches last year but cannot recall Yeldon doing anything of note. Yeah...not sure about this one. Who's the HC and GM??? I think that is the answer right there Just now, MAJBobby said: Per ESPN Yeldon's time with the Jaguars didn't end on good terms. Executive vice president of football operations Tom Coughlin blasted Yeldon and Leonard Fournette for their demeanor on the sidelines during the 2018 finale after both players sat on the bench (Yeldon was active but Fournette was not) and appeared disinterested throughout the 20-3 loss to the Houston Texans. Coughlin released a statement after the game in which he said they were "disrespectful, selfish and their behavior was unbecoming that of a professional football player." now where did I just see that ???? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 I keep seeing SydneyBillsFan and thinking I didn't write that !!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 37 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: It’s a fine signing but I don’t think they know how position value works. Is there another team in the nfl that has 3 veteran rbs making million plus? If there was ever a position you go young and cheap in, it’s rb. Like i said, Yeldon is an ok player but it’s weird how they value the position. I’d rather spend a 4th or lower on a Bryce Love who has more upside and costs way less. When you have as much money under the cap as the Bills do, these short term contracts mean nothing at all concerning “position value”. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 This feels like a lot of the other additions. Not a superstar, but gives you less “need” in the draft. Could still go that way, but a little deeper going in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not at the table Karlos Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 4 hours ago, MAJBobby said: Actually went from Mike Tolbert to Gore (but still a massive upgrade) Mike Tolbert- Chris Ivory- Frank Gore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 16 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said: Who's the HC and GM??? I think that is the answer right there now where did I just see that ???? guess doesn't read the thread so copied it and put it as a quote response lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 23 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said: Yes, the New England Patriots. NE is the next team on the list for RB/FB positional spending dollars after Buffalo. Once Shady is finished with his contract and if he was replaced next year with a 2nd or 3rd round pick the Bills will be under the league average. https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/positional/breakdown/ Good catch but it’s like NE shouldn’t be compared to other teams in some respects. Also, IMO, Those Yeldon type guys are more important to Brady because of how he attacks a defense. Im nervous that Daboll is trying to build NE’s offense (dink and dunk) when it doesn’t really fit Allen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 Bean said a while ago that Allen needs to take/make more intermediate passes to get those 5 yard gains that make it 3rd and manageable. This, along with Beasley, are pickups that enable him to do that. We now have 2 speedy receiving options (Foster/Brown) and two intermediate route options (Beasley/Yeldon, and perhaps a TE). I like it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJB Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 I don't understand why everyone is confused by this. Yeldon signed for two years. Next year Shady and Gore will be gone and Yeldon will be the vet in the room along with most likely a high selection of a 2020 RB. Next years class is THE running back class. Not that difficult 5 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 6 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: Good catch but it’s like NE shouldn’t be compared to other teams in some respects. Also, IMO, Those Yeldon type guys are more important to Brady because of how he attacks a defense. Im nervous that Daboll is trying to build NE’s offense (dink and dunk) when it doesn’t really fit Allen. I would be nervous only if JA cannot improve his swing/screen/short middle passes. He has to work heavy on that this summer. Daboll will still let his long balls fly but IF JA can perfect the short stuff he will be a force to be reckoned with. Daboll can (if things work out right) cause defenses to defend the entire field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnCoke11 Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 5 minutes ago, DJB said: I don't understand why everyone is confused by this. Yeldon signed for two years. Next year Shady and Gore will be gone and Yeldon will be the vet in the room along with most likely a high selection of a 2020 RB. Next years class is THE running back class. Not that difficult Yeah i can’t understand why people bash this signing. He’s a good complimentary back to have. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 9 minutes ago, RyanC883 said: Bean said a while ago that Allen needs to take/make more intermediate passes to get those 5 yard gains that make it 3rd and manageable. This, along with Beasley, are pickups that enable him to do that. We now have 2 speedy receiving options (Foster/Brown) and two intermediate route options (Beasley/Yeldon, and perhaps a TE). I like it. I see as: Brown/Foster deep threats with comeback balls when JA extends plays. Beasley/Zay/TE for intermediate balls. Shady/Yeldon/Gore for screens/swings and short middle passes. It's not bad as I see it and can't wait to see what the draft brings into this equation. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROCBillsBeliever Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 3 hours ago, mannc said: “Gunning” for a guy likely to be available in round 6 or 7? Ok... @mannc okay... I guess one of the 30 official visits doesn't constitute as interest... https://www.buffalorumblings.com/2019/3/22/18269766/2019-nfl-draft-buffalo-bills-top-30-pre-draft-visit-tracker-rumors-notes You think they didn't gun for Robert Foster or Levi Wallace in UDFA? McBeane is ruthless in pursuit of talent... This ain't the Doug Whaley show, bucko. It's a new regime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 7 minutes ago, ROCBillsBeliever said: @mannc okay... I guess one of the 30 official visits doesn't constitute as interest... https://www.buffalorumblings.com/2019/3/22/18269766/2019-nfl-draft-buffalo-bills-top-30-pre-draft-visit-tracker-rumors-notes You think they didn't gun for Robert Foster or Levi Wallace in UDFA? McBeane is ruthless in pursuit of talent... This ain't the Doug Whaley show, bucko. It's a new regime. Foster and Wallace are looking like VERY good pickups This team is starting to look talented again 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 1 hour ago, C.Biscuit97 said: Good catch but it’s like NE shouldn’t be compared to other teams in some respects. Also, IMO, Those Yeldon type guys are more important to Brady because of how he attacks a defense. Im nervous that Daboll is trying to build NE’s offense (dink and dunk) when it doesn’t really fit Allen. I think one of the strengths in NE is that while white is the primary pass catcher - they prefer do-all backs. White became more of a bell cow in 2018, but in 2017 he was right in the mix with lewis and burkhead. All can block and catch so it lets you kind of play a hot hand, helps with injuries, and you have more fresh legs on the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peace Frog Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 This is a good signing. If Shady gets hurt during the season and misses any games (what's the chances of THAT happening, amirite?), then Yeldon will step right in to the starter role. Beane knows what he's doing. Do not question The Process. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProcessYaDigg Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 He's too young. I don't want him 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 6 hours ago, Doc Brown said: My name is Brandon Beane and I refuse to draft a running back. I think McDermott really really prefers vet RBs who know what they’re doing. We will see how that works out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffAlone Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 10 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: I think McDermott really really prefers vet RBs who know what they’re doing. We will see how that works out. Really, really prefers vet RB's who know how to pick up a blitz and when to sit on a route! All part of the plan to protect JA. And encourage his trust in the pocket. Good signing.Good philosophy. Only downfall is, I wish we had a Shady, 3rd down Gore, and pass catching back in one body. I'm sure it'll get figured out tho? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clyde Smith Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 9 minutes ago, BuffAlone said: Really, really prefers vet RB's who know how to pick up a blitz and when to sit on a route! All part of the plan to protect JA. And encourage his trust in the pocket. Good signing.Good philosophy. Only downfall is, I wish we had a Shady, 3rd down Gore, and pass catching back in one body. I'm sure it'll get figured out tho? Travis Etienne 2020 Clemson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 11 minutes ago, BuffAlone said: Really, really prefers vet RB's who know how to pick up a blitz and when to sit on a route! All part of the plan to protect JA. And encourage his trust in the pocket. Good signing.Good philosophy. Only downfall is, I wish we had a Shady, 3rd down Gore, and pass catching back in one body. I'm sure it'll get figured out tho? Well maybe Fred Express can un-retire and the Bills can have it all in one body. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffAlone Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 Just now, Clyde Smith said: Travis Etienne 2020 Clemson Id rather Miles Sanders in '19. Or Rodney Anderson.... Just now, Limeaid said: Well maybe Fred Express can un-retire and the Bills can have it all in one body. How old is he now?? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 1 minute ago, BuffAlone said: How old is he now?? 38, old enough to be senior RB, but it is not just years but miles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 37 minutes ago, Clyde Smith said: Travis Etienne 2020 Clemson Etienne and D'Andre Swift are my favorite rbs likely available next yr. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 5 hours ago, John from Riverside said: Foster and Wallace are looking like VERY good pickups This team is starting to look talented again I see Wallace as keeping his starting job when the camp competition is over. He’s a player, flat out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWATeam Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 13 minutes ago, K-9 said: I see Wallace as keeping his starting job when the camp competition is over. He’s a player, flat out. He better learn to get physical then. my money is on a healthy Gaines starting. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 Having a guy in the the backfield who can block or catch is a big get for the growth of Allen. Yeldon imo could be a poor man's Bell in a sense. Move him around the formation and get him the ball underneath vs LB. Daboll is trying to add some easy throws for Allen underneath. Beasly for the slot, running the routes Welker, Edelman and Amendola ran. Yeldon in a James White type role makes sense too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rampage Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 Reading some of the posts in this thread you'd think he signed a Le'veon Bell contract.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJ Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 Yeldon is young enough that he has a chance to revive a career that's been heading in the wrong direction. If the Bills can give him decent blocking, he has the skill set to do some damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 Was Daboll at Alabama with Yeldon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 7 minutes ago, the skycap said: Was Daboll at Alabama with Yeldon? No Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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