inkman Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 1 hour ago, oldmanfan said: McKensie goes bye bye. Who? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocCityRoller Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 2 minutes ago, EmotionallyUnstable said: Any team that is relying on their return man to win a game against last year's Bills, is not a team im proud of. I get that he could offer some great returns. So can other guys. Some people on Twitter are jumping up and down like we just signed Dante Hall back when he used to throw up the X. Good point, I'll have to go back and look at those numbers. Shortening the field for your young QB is always good. Roberts is a Pro Bowl and All Pro caliber return man. Why so serious? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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EmotionallyUnstable Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 Just now, Stank_Nasty said: Good job totally missing the point. What the hell, dude. Regardless of the teams he showed the ability to sway the tide in more than one game. That’s an asset. Sure it's an asset. Did you miss where I acknowledged it as an upgrade or an improvement? I'm simply stating I don't think it's as much of a leg up as many ppl here seem to think it will bring this team. I hope I'm wrong. I just don't see myself watching the Bills winning football games next year because of this guy. Temper expectations Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 1 hour ago, Rico said: Ray Ray first. Ray Ray & McKenzie are both gonzo.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 3 minutes ago, inkman said: Who? I mean McKittrick and write McKensie every time. Brain cramp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c-troop Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 I wonder how many of andre roberts punt returns ended in FG's... Special Teams Hidden Yardage is key for so many FG's and short field TD's Another great get from the beanster! ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stank_Nasty Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 Just now, EmotionallyUnstable said: Sure it's an asset. Did you miss where I acknowledged it as an upgrade or an improvement? I'm simply stating I don't think it's as much of a leg up as many ppl here seem to think it will bring this team. I hope I'm wrong. I just don't see myself watching the Bills winning football games next year because of this guy. Temper expectations Like I said. If it changes the tide in one or 2 it’s a great thing to have. That’s the difference between sitting at home at 7-9 or 8-8 or playing in mid January at 10-6 or 9-7. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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PetermansRedemption Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 10 minutes ago, EmotionallyUnstable said: Good point, I'll have to go back and look at those numbers. Averaged 14.1 yards on 23 returns. Pretty good in my opinion. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 4.46 40 yard. Speed!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cripple Creek Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 10 minutes ago, inkman said: Who? He means McKittrick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stank_Nasty Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 7 minutes ago, wppete said: And this is missing a kick return he took the the house in an OT game vs GB. Dude can make a difference. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmotionallyUnstable Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 Just now, Stank_Nasty said: Like I said. If it changes the tide in one or 2 it’s a great thing to have. That’s the difference between sitting at home at 7-9 or 8-8 or playing in mid January at 10-6 or 9-7. You could make that argument, sure. But on the list of things that is potentially the reason the bills lost or won two games, it is near the bottom. There are many, many more important aspects of the game that could be difference makers in tight games. Could this be one? Sure. But the few additional yards that guy is getting us probably won't be the reason we make or miss the playoffs. I'm.not knocking the signing, as much as you might try to portray these comments in that narrative. All im highlighting is the thought that I don't think the excitement over this signing is as warranted as many people are making it to be. The ST coach and surrounding cast are equally, if not more, important than who is carrying the rock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c-troop Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 Has anyone seen his contract? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 4 minutes ago, Stank_Nasty said: And this is missing a kick return he took the the house in an OT game vs GB. Dude can make a difference. This is another great signing from Bean. Hope he can also play and contribute some at WR. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmotionallyUnstable Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 6 minutes ago, Bills2ref said: Averaged 14.1 yards on 23 returns. Pretty good in my opinion. Thanks. It's definitely a strong number. Unfortunately no other Jets returned punts last year so it's hard to have some perspective as to how much of his production was based on his talent vs. surrounding cast and scheme. The Bills' return men averaged between 5-8 yards per return on punt returns in 2018, regardless of who was carrying the ball. To me, it wasn't necessarily a lack of talent that was pinching those numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 I have to think we’re done at WR unless Zay is shopped in a trade. Foster - Brown - Beasley - Zay Roberts Duke - McKenzie We either keep 7 or McKenzie and Duke fight to the death for a roster spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inigo Montoya Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 (edited) 38 minutes ago, Logic said: I think Roberts' addition makes the drafting of an early round WR pretty unlikely. Foster Brown Beasley Jones McKenzie Williams Roberts That's already 1 more WR than the Bills can keep. Roberts is probably just about assured a roster spot due to his KR abilities. Bills rarely carry more than 6 WRs on a roster. So that leaves 5 spots. Just not sure where a draftee fits in UNLESS they plan on trading/releasing Zay Jones. I think Duke Williams stays because he is the only "big" receiver and may carve out a niche as the red-zone-go-up-and-get-it guy. I think McKenzie will be the odd man out and Ray Ray would be next on the chopping block. Edited March 14, 2019 by Inigo Montoya 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 10 minutes ago, SCBills said: I have to think we’re done at WR unless Zay is shopped in a trade. Foster - Brown - Beasley - Zay Roberts Duke - McKenzie We either keep 7 or McKenzie and Duke fight to the death for a roster spot. There is a lot of good WR in the draft. I’m sure they will get one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philo Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 10 minutes ago, Inigo Montoya said: I think Duke Williams stays because he is the only "big" receiver and may carve out a niche as the red-zone-go-up-and-get-it guy. I think McKenzie will be the odd man out and Ray Ray would be next on the chopping block. I agree. Ray Ray and McKenzie are as good as gone now IMO. Duke gets the last spot unless they draft another big body WR, but it is likely not a priority at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsGuru4 Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 Very exciting to get an all pro to field kicks and punts. I’m always so nervous either not having a stud catching or having a regular starter get hurt 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 If all this is a preview for the draft, I'm all in. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 1 hour ago, richardb1952 said: When you look at the highlights, you see some very creative blocking schemes for the return team, something I never saw with the Bills last year. Another reason the coach is gone 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy1 Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 I’m not banking on Duke Williams. I could see him being practice squad player. Camp will be fun to watch this year. Lots of competition at most positions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillyguy1 Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 2 hours ago, RocCityRoller said: Sean took a team that no business being in the playoffs to 9-7 and did sneak into the playoffs. He is superb at putting avg defensive players and making them play as a whole unit. McKelvin and McGahee who is a WR/CB with a Mc? Never mind we have Roberts. He took a team with Tyrod Taylor as its starting QB to the playoffs. And don't forget. Mcdermott and Beane really are a team. They work together well and make each other better. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyofCtown Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 5 hours ago, Pete said: Great move! Holy shi!. Going into FA I thought we had holes at C, G, T, TE, WR, CB, Edge, and KR-if we sign Ziggy- Beane would cover each one of those! Never could I see us adding so much talent pre-draft. Now we truly can go BPA. Kudos Beane! Thats what he said he was gonna do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 5 hours ago, BillsFan4 said: Love it! http://www.nfl.com/player/andreroberts/497320/careerstats This dude had almost 1200 kick return yards last season! 1,174 to be exact! averaged almost 30yds per return, he was top 3 in both kick and punt return, scored on 2 returns, was named to the pro bowl + named all-pro. He was a big factor in the jets having the #1 ranked special teams unit last season. I can’t believe they let him walk... Wow. That's vvery impressive. Murphy had 13 returns and led the team with 24.9 yards per . No player had over 10 yards per punt! As a team, we had ZERO punt/kickoff returns! This is a helluva mood to get a guy that consistently produces and he instantly improves both units. Kick/punt TD or inside the red zone are potentially game and momentum changing plays. If you can get 5+ for the season , that could have a huge impact on your final record 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 6 hours ago, Gugny said: CJ Spiller. Brad Smith. Marcus Thigpen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frez Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 This addition makes our team much better from last year. I'm betting he plays some WR for us too. Bombs away! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbRiddick Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 All he has to do is make one key return that leads to a win and he'll have justified his signing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 Maybe we can get more then 20 yards this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MILFHUNTER#518 Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 11 hours ago, MrEpsYtown said: Yeah this is a great move. The guy has been excellent for a few years and maybe we might actually get a return at some point, especially with our new special teams coach. Last return I remeber was Terrence McGee. C.J. Spiller did a good job too. But yes, been way too long... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 Is he one of the guys who lies down in the EZ to hide in the paint?? /bad joke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badassgixxer05 Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 10 hours ago, Stank_Nasty said: Mckelvin housed 3 punts combined in 11/12 People forget how dangerous of a returner Mckelvin was because of the stupid fumbles he would have every once in awhile. Another guy I loved and could take it to the house at any time was Roscoe Parish. He was so tiny and quick in space. Perfect for punt returns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 Didn't read through the whole thread, but can he also play gunner? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmokinES3 Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 Sneaky good signing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 12 hours ago, Iamkrgr said: Good. Hopefully he's motivated. interesting question....why wouldn't he be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 (edited) How did this happen? Edited March 14, 2019 by HOUSE 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 (edited) Good addition - our returners were not good a year ago. We were forced to use Hyde as a Punt catcher at times last year. We were middle of the road to straight up bad last year at kickoff and punt returns. Returner helps special teams for sure - hopefully Hauschka can get back to form. Punter should still be looked at - Schmidt and Darr were awful, and Bojorquez was pretty inconsistent. Edited March 14, 2019 by dneveu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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