billspro Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 I like that Beane sets a value on players and doesn’t go over that. I trust that he will build a championship team. We have a good vision right now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marv's Neighbor Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 Gotta know when to fold em! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 12 minutes ago, billspro said: I like that Beane sets a value on players and doesn’t go over that. I trust that he will build a championship team. We have a good vision right now. Haha. You would have said the opposite if we got Brown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark92 Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 https://clutchpoints.com/bills-news-antonio-brown-to-buffalo-trade-fell-through-due-to-demands-for-new-contract/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProcessAccepted Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 In an industry known for their disdain for honesty, Drew Rosenhaus makes other sports agents look like Honest Abe Lincoln. No way I'd take his word on anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricko1112 Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 4 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: If you believe the agent, Bills passed on AB before it was ever an option for them ....he did not blow it up. Beane did. I'm not a Bills fan, but you guys dodged a bullet here. AB quit on his teammates the week before their most crucial game of the season. He only cares about his stats. Not winning. Stats = $$ so who's to say... We've all seen him pout and make scenes while winning huge games if he doesn't get his touches. We've also seen him laughing and high 5-ing after crushing losses as long as HIS stats are good. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st&ten Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 54 minutes ago, BillsVet said: Josh Allen has to have someone to block for him. And hand the ball off to. And, receivers to catch passes. Right now McBeane have, as I've read elsewhere, "an empty cupboard" on offense. My money's on AB playing well at 34. The cupboard will be stocked this year. I respect your opinion but I won't put too much money on AB----we'll see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 10, 2019 Author Share Posted March 10, 2019 Just now, ricko1112 said: I'm not a Bills fan, but you guys dodged a bullet here. AB quit on his teammates the week before their most crucial game of the season. He only cares about his stats. Not winning. Stats = $$ so who's to say... We've all seen him pout and make scenes while winning huge games if he doesn't get his touches. We've also seen him laughing and high 5-ing after crushing losses as long as HIS stats are good. All this is true but, you see, our #1 WR is Zay Jones. On the plus side he didn’t get naked/arrested this offseason and fight for Jesus. That’s a win. Our other WR is a guy we don’t want to admit is looking pretty good because of this guy named Skydiver. It’s all very neurotic. We need more WRs to hate/blame and AB was perfect. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 46 minutes ago, Magox said: Funny? Only for those who dont understand what they are trying to do. It was completely logical and they are following through with the plan they had from day 1 nearly 2 years ago. Which was to get rid of the players and contracts that they did not want for this franchise. Reasonable people can disagree with the roster moves and decisions they made but one thing is clear at least clear to those who are able to plainly see what they are doing, which is remaking this team the way they see fit which is all you can ask for from both the FO and ownership and for that I applaud them. Sorry......I just popped into this discussion........which Bills regime are we talking about? This sounds exactly like all of them the past 20 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kota Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 Its pretty obvious that the Bills backed out after the contract demands from AB were disclosed. You have a guy that says he doesn't need t play because he is rich who then turns around and wants 30+ Million guaranteed money. I dont' blame him one bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HurlyBurly51 Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 1 hour ago, ricko1112 said: I'm not a Bills fan, but you guys dodged a bullet here. AB quit on his teammates the week before their most crucial game of the season. He only cares about his stats. Not winning. Stats = $$ so who's to say... We've all seen him pout and make scenes while winning huge games if he doesn't get his touches. We've also seen him laughing and high 5-ing after crushing losses as long as HIS stats are good. Totally, totally agree! Very happy this didn’t happen! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scorp83 Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 6 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: If you believe the agent, Bills passed on AB before it was ever an option for them ....he did not blow it up. Beane did. Was just about to post this... here's the link in case anyone wants to know more. But yeah... We passed on AB... it wasn't about him not wanting to come to Buffalo. Did Antonio Brown want to avoid joining Buffalo Bills? Agent Drew Rosenhaus weighs in - newyorkupstate.comhttps://www.newyorkupstate.com//buffalo-bills/2019/03/did-antonio-brown-want-to-avoid-joining-buffalo-bills-agent-drew-rosenhaus-weighs-in.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 6 hours ago, Buffalo_Gal said: But, but, but... This is gonna cause more than a few heads to explode. Those that explode were just full with hot air like a zeppelin anyways and were not being used. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Believer Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 So, Beane dropped out... Never made AB an offer... Makes it either Pittsburgh wanted too much in return... or Beane decided after his due diligence AB was not a good fit to the Bills organization... I think the latter... and I applaud Beane... AB is an infectious disease... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Murica Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 This all fine and dandy but it would be great if we acquire a true #1 WR.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 7 minutes ago, Believer said: So, Beane dropped out... Never made AB an offer... Makes it either Pittsburgh wanted too much in return... or Beane decided after his due diligence AB was not a good fit to the Bills organization... I think the latter... and I applaud Beane... AB is an infectious disease... This is what I wonder as well. I would think that one of the better ways to find out what exactly happened with AB, and whether or not he’s a fit, would be to enter into the trade talks so you can talk to the GM, coach, agent etc. and ask them all questions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJ Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 Essentially that means One Bills Live had it right, and those who ridiculed their take on it are looking kind of silly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peace Frog Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 23 minutes ago, Believer said: So, Beane dropped out... Never made AB an offer... Makes it either Pittsburgh wanted too much in return... or Beane decided after his due diligence AB was not a good fit to the Bills organization... I think the latter... and I applaud Beane... AB is an infectious disease... So, essentially, Beane was worried not only about AB being too demanding but also possibly being diseased, so he immediately pulled out? I applaud the man for doing the right thing. This draft is so deep with potentially good WRs that we don't need some other team's headache. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 11, 2019 Author Share Posted March 11, 2019 7 minutes ago, TigerJ said: Essentially that means One Bills Live had it right, and those who ridiculed their take on it are looking kind of silly. What did they say? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 Good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 I’ll wait for the “Kudos Fergy...you were right”. Rosenhaus is doing damage control now realizing Beane trolled the ever loving chit out of them. Sigh-yon-ara Bleached Hairlip. You’ve been Beaned! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billspro Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 3 hours ago, C.Biscuit97 said: Haha. You would have said the opposite if we got Brown. Nope, I was not happy that we were trading for Brown. I would have accepted it at the right price, but that was not the move I wanted us to make. I have lots of Steelers fan friends, they know I wasn’t happy. They were also fine with him leaving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyofCtown Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 (edited) 7 hours ago, Buffalo Bills Fan said: I really think Beane and Rosenhaus said is true. Bill's might of pulled out cause of money. I think maybe Steelers side jump the gun to Rapoport. Someone did. I figure Buf offered the best compensation to the Team but werent sure on the money. I figure they already pulled out and that is why AB said fake news. At least that is what I will tell myself to sleep at night. 9 minutes ago, billspro said: Nope, I was not happy that we were trading for Brown. I would have accepted it at the right price, but that was not the move I wanted us to make. I have lots of Steelers fan friends, they know I wasn’t happy. They were also fine with him leaving. And that is what you and they say to sleep at night.? Edited March 11, 2019 by formerlyofCtown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2003Contenders Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 (edited) 24 minutes ago, formerlyofCtown said: I figure Buf offered the best compensation to the Team but werent sure on the money. I figure they already pulled out and that is why AB said fake news. At least that is what I will tell myself to sleep at night. And that is what you and they say to sleep at night.? I think this is probably how it went down as well. So all of the reporters were essentially correct. Rappaport said that the Steelers and Bills had agreed on a trade in principle. However, both Vic and JW said that a trade was very unlikely. Beane wisely decided that the risk was to great to pay a player who has made it abundantly clear that he would be more than willing to sit out a huge new guaranteed contract. Edited March 11, 2019 by 2003Contenders Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billspro Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 (edited) 25 minutes ago, formerlyofCtown said: I figure Buf offered the best compensation to the Team but werent sure on the money. I figure they already pulled out and that is why AB said fake news. At least that is what I will tell myself to sleep at night. And that is what you and they say to sleep at night.? I slept worse the night I thought we traded for him haha Also, the Steelers have lost plenty of good old WRs before and they always replace them with a mid round pick that become great. I’m sure that will happen again, that is how winning organizations work. Edited March 11, 2019 by billspro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyofCtown Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 15 minutes ago, billspro said: I slept worse the night I thought we traded for him haha Also, the Steelers have lost plenty of good old WRs before and they always replace them with a mid round pick that become great. I’m sure that will happen again, that is how winning organizations work. True. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan692 Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 To be honest schefters reporting from espn makes it seem like rapaport is just an amateur and got the story wrong and jumped the gun. Bean had to come out in the AM and release a statement as we were being flamed nationally throughout the night. Rapaport tried to save face and continued to act like a deal was ALMOST THROUGH but just fell apart at last second because the alternative was that he was completely wrong and premature. Personally, i feel like he should be fired. I dont believe bean ever had any interest in giving AB a max deal 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 11 hours ago, Joe in Winslow said: Cue the beane haters. beane did the right thing 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 11 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: I wonder if he’s lying. He does have to continue doing business with them, and wouldn’t want to say he didn’t want to go there. But so many sides to this... Well the story was he backed out due to the contract. Beane didn’t say that but everyone else did. According to Rosenhaus it sounds like it never even got that far? about time people started listening to me ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan1988 Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 Beane counted his beans didn't like how many beans on the beans stock he had to give up. Damn Beane counter. Lol. Hey at least he thinks the 31yr old McCoy is worth nearly 10mil per yr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillnutinHouston Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 Rosenhaus' statement sounds very contrived and I'm surprised how many here are taking it at face value. He's protecting future deals for other clients. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProcessTruster Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 15 hours ago, C.Biscuit97 said: I totally believe DR. he's the guy who pulled Jason Peters out of buffalo , because it was buffalo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 11, 2019 Author Share Posted March 11, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, ProcessTruster said: he's the guy who pulled Jason Peters out of buffalo , because it was buffalo That wasn’t him. Peters agent was Eugene Parker. Rosenhaus is Shady’s agent. He might be a snake (what agent isn’t?) but he does his job very well -which is nearly 100% about getting his clients as much guaranteed $ as possible Edited March 11, 2019 by YoloinOhio 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 From an agent and player’s perspective they managed this situation perfectly. Tanking his trade value made it easier to negotiate a new contract. Selfish but effective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 Beane withdrew because he wasn't going to restructure and throw away $. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrbojanglezs Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 13 hours ago, billspro said: I like that Beane sets a value on players and doesn’t go over that. I trust that he will build a championship team. We have a good vision right now. I like that too but we'll see how well it works in FA. Depending on the market you may need to overpay here and there 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Wagon Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 17 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: I wonder if he’s lying. He does have to continue doing business with them, and wouldn’t want to say he didn’t want to go there. But so many sides to this... Well the story was he backed out due to the contract. Beane didn’t say that but everyone else did. According to Rosenhaus it sounds like it never even got that far? Just my opinion, but that's what I think. Bills and Steelers got very far on a deal, to the point Rappaport (who isn't going to risk his rep on a chance) felt comfortable reporting it. AB nuked it. Beane and Rosenhaus are working together to save face because Rosenhaus knows Beane is sitting on a mountain of money right now. Makes a heck of a lot more sense than the "Beane trolled everyone" crowd. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Chuck Wagon said: Just my opinion, but that's what I think. Bills and Steelers got very far on a deal, to the point Rappaport (who isn't going to risk his rep on a chance) felt comfortable reporting it. AB nuked it. Beane and Rosenhaus are working together to save face because Rosenhaus knows Beane is sitting on a mountain of money right now. Makes a heck of a lot more sense than the "Beane trolled everyone" crowd. I strongly suspect that this is the case too. I think everyone here needs to factor in that a player of this caliber and with this sort of contract has a huge say in these deals. He has more power than the teams, arguably, and I don’t believe for a nansecond that Antonio Brown -- probably the best receiver in the NFL at the moment — wanted to come to Buffalo. Edited March 11, 2019 by dave mcbride 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaclynrea21 Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 I simply don't care.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 I'm honestly thrilled . No WAY Beane was giving him 17-18 mil Per with 10 mil per guaranteed and I don't blame him. I'd be pretty mad if he did end up giving him that size of contract . That's a ridiculous amount of $ I'd only give to a QB and possibly pass rusher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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