bigK14094 Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 (edited) 8 minutes ago, PS 56 said: Martin is a man with serious emotional issues. I hope he can get help to put his life on track. Richie has issues also. Putting those two together in Miami wasn't good calculus by the team management. Edited January 17, 2019 by bigK14094 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 Not being insensitive to the "bullying" issue by any means because my father-in-law's 13 year old granddaughter committed suicide about 3 weeks ago due to it, but it's hard for me to take a bullying claim seriously when the guy getting "bullied" was 6'6" and 315lbs. I think he had mental issues from the jump and it contributed to how things have played out. Was Richie a dick? Yes, yes indeed. He's crazy as a mofo himself. Did he probably aid to Martin's mental instability? Most likely. This whole thing has been like an after school special on the effects of being Bipolar in today's society. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wo-Bah Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 Jeez. You just don't know about folks, do you? This seems very disturbing. I wonder how RI found out; does he follow Martin on Instagram? That, too, would be creepy - to follow someone you allegedly bullied. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Wagon Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 (edited) 15 minutes ago, H2o said: Not being insensitive to the "bullying" issue by any means because my father-in-law's 13 year old granddaughter committed suicide about 3 weeks ago due to it, but it's hard for me to take a bullying claim seriously when the guy getting "bullied" was 6'6" and 315lbs. I think he had mental issues from the jump and it contributed to how things have played out. Was Richie a dick? Yes, yes indeed. He's crazy as a mofo himself. Did he probably aid to Martin's mental instability? Most likely. This whole thing has been like an after school special on the effects of being Bipolar in today's society. I'm sure Richie wasn't the only one (especially with Pouncey in the same locker room), just the loudest / most frequent. I don't see how a few 6'~6" 315 lbs guys ganging up on another 6'6" 315 pound guy is any different than a group of 5'6" 135 lbs guys ganging up on one 5'6" 135 lbs guy. But yes, I agree with you that Martin certainly has his own demons and various degrees of "bullying" (not to minimize bullying, but one person's "joking around" is another's bullying) typically happens with any group of young guys. Edited January 17, 2019 by Chuck Wagon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollars 2 donuts Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 27 minutes ago, bigK14094 said: Richie has issues also. Putting those two together in Miami wasn't good calculus by the team management. This is sad all the way around. BigK, can you imagine if Richie had stayed a Bill during his first time around and Buffalo drafted Martin instead of Glenn?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 1 hour ago, C.Biscuit97 said: Duke gets anyone they want in. Those are good schools but I in terms of good their academics and sports are and what the standards they hold their athletes to, I would say Stanford has the best student athletes in the country at the D1 level. Depends on the sport and whether kids can play. A good friend of my son's (who is an elite baseball player) had offers from Duke, Vandy, and Stanford, but because the latter two had made offers to a ridiculous number of pitchers (not good for him), he chose Duke. In football, I'm sure Duke and Northwestern tell good players that their chances of playing are going to be higher at those places than Stanford. As for academic quality, they're all roughly the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 It's like "No Country for Old Men" but in this case, Richie didn't steal a briefcase of cash....Richie stole Martin's dignity and now it's a cat and mouse game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 they really need to put richie and martin into the thunderdome to hash this out. two men enter...one man leaves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 2 minutes ago, teef said: they really need to put richie and martin into the thunderdome to hash this out. two men enter...one man leaves. weapons or just the fists the Good Lord made them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerome007 Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 34 minutes ago, Chuck Wagon said: I'm sure Richie wasn't the only one (especially with Pouncey in the same locker room), just the loudest / most frequent. I don't see how a few 6'~6" 315 lbs guys ganging up on another 6'6" 315 pound guy is any different than a group of 5'6" 135 lbs guys ganging up on one 5'6" 135 lbs guy. But yes, I agree with you that Martin certainly has his own demons and various degrees of "bullying" (not to minimize bullying, but one person's "joking around" is another's bullying) typically happens with any group of young guys. Don't see the difference? They are MEN not teens or boys. His momma is a lawyer wasn't she? And the NFL, while certainly not fully transparent by any means, is still quite a public place with a spotlight on it 80% of the times, including most practices, journalists in the locker room, etc. And you can actually request a trade and still work in the NFL, at your craft. Unlike in most work places or schools. Big differences to me indeed. The main question here if this story is true: how come we know this, and how come RI knows this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 12 minutes ago, teef said: they really need to put richie and martin into the thunderdome to hash this out. two men enter...one man leaves. Now THIS is a PPV I would pay to see. Forget Tiger vs Phil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloMatt Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 living la vida loca Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLTbills Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 15 hours ago, Búfalo Blanco said: It should have been Taco Bell, then Trump could've charged Mexico for it. Taco Bell... The best and cheapest weight-loss program available ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerome007 Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 (edited) It says in the story "Incognito was so freaked out when he learned about the post on Feb. 22, he hopped in a car with his dad, brother and dog and drove north from Scottsdale, Arizona, for two hours to meet an FBI agent at a safe house" Didn't I read on here of Richie losing his mind at his father's funeral last offseason? Or do I need to get checked in as well? Edit: Ha! I now realize it was on Feb 22, so before his dad died. How come it only makes the news now? Edited January 17, 2019 by Jerome007 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollars 2 donuts Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 How is it that this old, seemingly done story just keeps on getting worse with time? Damn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 Two Jello heads, nothing surprises me with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HT02 Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 1 hour ago, bigK14094 said: Richie has issues also. Putting those two together in Miami wasn't good calculus by the team management. The Dolphin's management team was just trying to put together a football team I am pretty sure they weren't aware both these guys were that volatile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swill Merchant Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 For whatever faults RI may have, and he clearly has many, I have always thought he got a raw deal as it pertains to Jonathan Martin. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 no concern about being arrested for posting an instagram, huh? they really are winning aren't they..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yungmack Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 In an article in today's LA Times, the incident that triggered police involvement was a post showing a gun and a photo of Martin's high school, the very elite Harvard-Westlake Prep, and a message that appeared to be a threat of violence which led to a school shut down. In addition, Martin focused his anger on Mike Pouncey. There was no mention of RI in the article. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 42 minutes ago, Swill Merchant said: For whatever faults RI may have, and he clearly has many, I have always thought he got a raw deal as it pertains to Jonathan Martin. nope, you keep poking a bear and you'll get mauled it's a business and you keep away from anyone unless it's on good terms 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlock Holmes Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 7 hours ago, from_dunkirk said: According to wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burger_King "Burger King (BK) is an American global chain of hamburger fast food restaurants. Headquartered in the unincorporated area of Miami-Dade County, Florida, the company was founded in 1953 as Insta-Burger King, a Jacksonville, Florida–based restaurant chain." Ah, well just wondering... Didnt see BK mentioned as being served anyways just McD, Wendys and Dominoes specifically. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prissythecat Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 46 minutes ago, Foxx said: no concern about being arrested for posting an instagram, huh? they really are winning aren't they..... Does posting on Instagram make it any less of a threat? The judge mentioned that the law was unequivocal on it being a threat .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swill Merchant Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 13 minutes ago, row_33 said: nope, you keep poking a bear and you'll get mauled it's a business and you keep away from anyone unless it's on good terms By all accounts I've seen Martin was giving it back and playing it off like they were *****-talking friends up until he flipped out and RI realized he "broke J-Mart." I don't purport to know all the details, nor do I claim RI is necessarily blameless, but whatever his transgressions, it appears based on the evidence we know now, the case prosecuted by the media in the court of public opinion was unduly harsh. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyWhiteShows Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 This is a sad situation all around 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 I wanted to give CBF this emoji but it wasn't an option 3 minutes ago, BillyWhiteShows said: This is a sad situation all around yes it is 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 15 minutes ago, BillyWhiteShows said: This is a sad situation all around a comparison was Jason Paul Pierre gleefully beating up on a punter in ST, and that set up bad karma leave people the ***** alone in your life unless it's welcome to interact Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Buffalo Joe Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 18 hours ago, Augie said: I get a kick out of many people here who put money on such a high pedestal. I mean, I’m a big fan, don’t get me wrong!!! But it really doesn’t guarantee happiness. Some people here seem to resent those who have done well financially. “You’ve got your millions! Who are you to complain! Suck it up!” We have no idea what their lives are like or how heavy their burdens are, regardless of net worth. True. Look at the Nickel and Goodwin stories. They make more money than I could dream of, and I don't think I'd want to be in their shoes right now. You can't buy a child back that passed. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 They both need lots of help, but happy the duty to warn mandate worked this time by professionals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 3 hours ago, Swill Merchant said: I don't purport to know all the details, nor do I claim RI is necessarily blameless, but whatever his transgressions, it appears based on the evidence we know now, the case prosecuted by the media in the court of public opinion was unduly harsh. I do not know it was unduly harsh but just focused and one sided when it should have been even. Reminds me of some rape investigations where later on you find out the victim was never raped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 Hmmm....safe house in the desert? FBI? Is this where the NSA secrets were implanted into Ri's otherwise tiny brain? He is truly the gift that keeps on giving. The consummate entertainer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in San Diego Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 Sounds like a lovers spat to me. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikemac2001 Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 thought this was very interesting LAPD detective testified that Martin’s web search history showed he pulled up a story about Incognito just hours before he ordered his pump-action shotgun from American Gun Works on Feb. 9. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 9 minutes ago, Fan in San Diego said: Sounds like a lovers spat to me. Could explain a lot... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoudyBills Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 19 hours ago, RememberTheRockpile said: Hey! When I was that age a bag of Doritos Nacho Cheese chips was a gourmet dinner. Yep. Wash it down with a Mt. Dew and follow it with a Hershey bar. In that order, not together unless stoned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Buffalo Joe Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 30 for 30? This would make a great movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turk71 Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 11 hours ago, bigK14094 said: Richie has issues also. Putting those two together in Miami wasn't good calculus by the team management. Richie was arrested 5 months ago at his deceased fathers funeral home for insisting they cut off his dads head for research. He believes the NSA is talking to him and passing top secret information. Saying he has issues also is a bit of an understatement I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 17 hours ago, Swill Merchant said: For whatever faults RI may have, and he clearly has many, I have always thought he got a raw deal as it pertains to Jonathan Martin. He did. If you recall the black players on the Dolphins took his side and said that they did not think that Incog was a racist . In fact, he was a sort of bodyguard for the kid. I remember reading that once, Martin was getting abused on the field and Incog got involved and kicked some ass to defend him. Don't get me wrong, Richie is a hot mess but in this case I agree 100% that he got a raw deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
from_dunkirk Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 19 hours ago, dave mcbride said: You think all those standford players are academic all stars? I am talking about admission requirements and which schools compete against which for talent. Stanford competes against Duke and Northwestern among big time D1 schools. So what grades did those three Duke stars (Reddish, Wililamson, Barrett) have to get into Duke?? On 1/17/2019 at 12:54 AM, JoPar_v2 said: Read a little bit more than the first 2 sentences. BK’s parent company is now based in Canada (RBI also owns Tim Hortons.) The part I quoted is all I need: "Burger King (BK) is an American global chain of hamburger fast food restaurants. Headquartered in the unincorporated area of Miami-Dade County, Florida, " American...headquartered in Florida. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
from_dunkirk Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 19 hours ago, H2o said: Not being insensitive to the "bullying" issue by any means because my father-in-law's 13 year old granddaughter committed suicide about 3 weeks ago due to it, but it's hard for me to take a bullying claim seriously when the guy getting "bullied" was 6'6" and 315lbs. This video says otherwise: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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