FeelingOnYouboty Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 2 hours ago, whatdrought said: I wouldn't love taking a corner there. I know the hesitancy but Byron Murphy is elite elite. I don’t know how opposing QB’s could throw on us if we have Tre, Byron, Levi and Taron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Zebrastripes said: If the BPA is a QB the phone will be ringing off the hook with trade offers. with possibly 4 teams drafting ahead of us that could potentially be in the market for a QB, i wouldn't put much faith in the BPA at 10 being anything close to a QB. Edited December 31, 2018 by Foxx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocCityRoller Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 7 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said: Hopefully the Giants and Jaguars reach on quarterbacks, dropping some talent down. Bucs too 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zebrastripes Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 Just now, Foxx said: with possibly 4 teams drafting ahead of us that could potentially be in the market for a QB, i wouldn't put much faith in the BPA at 10 being anything close to a QB. I agree 100 percent with you on that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FeelingOnYouboty Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 7 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: Get a Center. Move Heaven and Earth to get this team a center. If we don’t sign one in FA then I predict we draft Garrett Bradbury out of NCST. There’s a Beane connection here too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight Hucklebuck Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 3 minutes ago, Zebrastripes said: How so? Because I think what really happens is teams rate prospects and put them into tiers. So if a Safety is a 7.6 this year and an OT is a 7.5 they fall into the same band and the Bills would take the OT. I think teams group similarly graded players and then pick from need out of that group. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Red King Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 8 minutes ago, Zebrastripes said: How so? C.J. Spiller. He was bpa at the time, but the Bills had a number of needs and running back wasn't one of them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manther Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 6 minutes ago, Straight Hucklebuck said: Because I think what really happens is teams rate prospects and put them into tiers. So if a Safety is a 7.6 this year and an OT is a 7.5 they fall into the same band and the Bills would take the OT. I think teams group similarly graded players and then pick from need out of that group. I agree with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 17 minutes ago, Not at the table Karlos said: So take the less talented player because it's a need. What a terrible way to draft. Good thing beane said he will take BPA That’s asinine. You aren’t going to find a difference that great between whoever you think is the best Defensive player and every single player left on offense. You do not need anything on defense and certainly not in the top 10 of a draft. You just do not take a defensive player at 10. Phrase it anyway you want. The defense is fine, if not excellent. The only work this team has done is on the defense. Enough. It’s built. Fix the disgraceful talent level on the offense. You don’t keep taking CJ Spiller when you have Fred Jackson and Marshawn Lynch. That’s what an idiot would do. Make the team better. There is a finite amount of assets to do so. Pushing starters to the bench will not help you. Fix the areas that are wastelands. Almost every position on offense currently is. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KOKBILLS Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 (edited) Fanspeak On The Clock Premium in 3, 2, 1...? Edited December 31, 2018 by KOKBILLS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
syhuang Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 Actually all these reports saying Bills picking 9th or 10th are correct because the ones saying 10th are based on all game results before IND/TEN game is concluded while the ones saying 9th is based on the assumption that IND/TEN doesn't end in a tie. At this moment (before IND/TEN game is ended), Bills' pick is 10th based on Bills having higher strength of schedule than Broncos. Currently Broncos' SOS is 133W/121L=0.5236 while Bills' SOS is 132W/120L=0.5238. However, as long as IND/TEN game doesn't end in a tie, Bills' SOS then becomes 133W/121L, which is the same as Broncos. In this case, we go to the next tiebreakers and Bills in the end would get 9th pick due to worse strength of victory. In other words, as long as IND/TEN game isn't a tie, Bills should get 9th pick. 2 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patzen Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 45 minutes ago, Beach said: ESPN just showed 9th If Indy and Ten tie then we'll pick 10th but if there's a winner and a loser (very, very likely) then we'll be picking 9th. ESPN is technically wrong but virtually right. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff3937 Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 I would love to get N’Keal Harry, big body receiver who actually makes contested catches and has good speed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock'em Sock'em Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 (edited) Winning today was sweet. Dropping from 7th to 9th in the draft is worth 150 value points - the value of a mid 3rd round pick. It was great to send Kyle off on a high note. It was great to see Josh Allen account for 5 TDs and get to .500 as a starter. Edited January 1, 2019 by Rock'em Sock'em 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 33 minutes ago, Not at the table Karlos said: So take the less talented player because it's a need. What a terrible way to draft. Good thing beane said he will take BPA Let me explain something to you: No one knows who the “best player available” is at any particular spot in the draft, especially when you are comparing, for example, a DT with a WR. Some people might think they know, but they don’t. And at any rate, I would argue that a really good WR is far more valuable than a great DT, especially on this team. The Bills need offensive playmakers and a couple offensive linemen. Those are the guys they need to be looking at in the first three rounds. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 42 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: Get a Center. Move Heaven and Earth to get this team a center. I thînk getting a young veteran is best for Josh Allen. I think we go all in on Mitch Morse. There is the Andy Reid connection and others in our front office connected to KC. He's the perfect fit. I also like the kid from Wisconsin, but a young veteran really takes the pressure off of Allen. I think Paradis goes to the Jets. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 A lot of the draft will depend on what FAs they get. I'd try to get O line help in free agency, and use the draft for WR/TE and edge rusher/DT help 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 1 hour ago, Mark Vader said: The Raiders on the other hand, would be a great move. If the Raiders want a QB with their top pick then want another highly rated defensive player, they have the draft capital to do it. The Bills could easily ask for the Raiders remaining top picks in the 20's, then be put in a situation where selecting both an O-Lineman & Wide Receiver would make more sense, value wise. I would love this. Give me 2 lower 1st round picks in exchange for pick 9. It makes sense for the Raiders too because they have a lot of picks and they need top 10 talent on their team. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 I say use the money in FA to build the best Oline humanly possible. Then just go after the best skill position players in the draft. WR/RB/TE...Finnish this rebuild 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not at the table Karlos Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 (edited) 16 minutes ago, mannc said: Let me explain something to you: No one knows who the “best player available” is at any particular spot in the draft, especially when you are comparing, for example, a DT with a WR. Some people might think they know, but they don’t. And at any rate, I would argue that a really good WR is far more valuable than a great DT, especially on this team. The Bills need offensive playmakers and a couple offensive linemen. Those are the guys they need to be looking at in the first three rounds. So if the next best wr is graded as a mid to late round pick by your scouts and the dt is graded out as a top 5 pick you would take the wr. That is idiotic and how you end up like the raiders If nobody knows who the best players available are why do the first few rounds have a better success rate than last few? Edited December 31, 2018 by Not at the table Karlos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted December 31, 2018 Author Share Posted December 31, 2018 Buffalorumblings just posted we are picking 9th 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 If the players grade out closely , other factors such as need come in. If a player remains on the board that you have graded much higher than the others you take him. Maybe even move up. Unless that player is an RB and it’s the first round. I’ve never loved the term BPA as it’s usually a massive oversimplification. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 3 hours ago, wppete said: Jonah Williams or Ed Oliver. Jonah LT Dawkins RT Paradis C 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 Updated from NFL.com has us picking #10 http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001006117/article/2019-nfl-draft-order-cardinals-own-top-pick-giants-to-take-qb 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misterbluesky Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 3 hours ago, JaCrispy said: Top 10 pick? I’ll take it! ? What's it worth in trade? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
from_dunkirk Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Virgil said: Buffalorumblings just posted we are picking 9th The Bills are picking 10th, per the NFL: http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001006117/article/2019-nfl-draft-order-cardinals-own-top-pick-giants-to-take-qb Edited December 31, 2018 by from_dunkirk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyofCtown Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Manther said: I agree with that. I think how teams address a glaring need is to move around the board to line that need up with BPA unless some player is rated much higher than the slot the team is in then they will likely take thay upgrade. We did that last year with Edmonds. Edited December 31, 2018 by formerlyofCtown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mojo44 Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 27 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said: If the players grade out closely , other factors such as need come in. If a player remains on the board that you have graded much higher than the others you take him. Maybe even move up. Unless that player is an RB and it’s the first round. I’ve never loved the term BPA as it’s usually a massive oversimplification. Yes! I have made this point several times in the past but you do it more succinctly . Thank you. It’s a sliding scale. Need, all other things considered, does, indeed, factor in ...in a significant way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 This thread is more bi-polar than Nick Foles. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 23 minutes ago, wppete said: Updated from NFL.com has us picking #10 http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001006117/article/2019-nfl-draft-order-cardinals-own-top-pick-giants-to-take-qb Wrong...as long as the Ind/Ten game isn't a tie we are 9 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocCityRoller Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 I believe it comes down to a coin flip Last time Denver picked one pick before Buffalo in the top 10 they got Von Miller, Buffalo got MD. I hope we win that coin flip... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted December 31, 2018 Author Share Posted December 31, 2018 3 minutes ago, RocCityRoller said: I believe it comes down to a coin flip Last time Denver picked one pick before Buffalo in the top 10 they got Von Miller, Buffalo got MD. I hope we win that coin flip... According to BuffaloRumblings, who said they spoke with someone at the NFL, it won't come down to a coin flip and it's officially going to be 9th 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beach Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 this thread has had the number changed a few times, maybe the word that needs to be changed is "officially" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 47 minutes ago, Virgil said: Buffalorumblings just posted we are picking 9th That’s awesome a CB or a RB with the 9th pick !!! ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted December 31, 2018 Author Share Posted December 31, 2018 6 minutes ago, Beach said: this thread has had the number changed a few times, maybe the word that needs to be changed is "officially" In fairness, it was originally posted as 9th. I wasn’t the one who changed it 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
from_dunkirk Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Virgil said: According to BuffaloRumblings, who said they spoke with someone at the NFL, it won't come down to a coin flip and it's officially going to be 9th So you're saying NFL.com is wrong? Edited December 31, 2018 by from_dunkirk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted December 31, 2018 Author Share Posted December 31, 2018 Just now, from_dunkirk said: So you're saying NFL.com is wrong? NFL.com deleted their tweet. So yes, they were wrong 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
from_dunkirk Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 18 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said: Wrong...as long as the Ind/Ten game isn't a tie we are 9 No, you are wrong. The NFL cannot be wrong. They are the horse's mouth. 1 minute ago, Virgil said: NFL.com deleted their tweet. So yes, they were wrong No, you are wrong. The article is still there: http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001006117/article/2019-nfl-draft-order-cardinals-own-top-pick-giants-to-take-qb 3 minutes ago, Virgil said: In fairness, it was originally posted as 9th. I wasn’t the one who changed it But that was wrong. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted December 31, 2018 Author Share Posted December 31, 2018 Just now, from_dunkirk said: No, you are wrong. The NFL cannot be wrong. They are the horse's mouth. No, you are wrong. The article is still there: http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001006117/article/2019-nfl-draft-order-cardinals-own-top-pick-giants-to-take-qb Let’s make a wager shall we? Loser changes their avatar to Brady for a week? And I probably am wrong. No one seems to be able to figure it out. But I will say this, even Denver just tweeted that they are picking 10th..... 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 3 minutes ago, Virgil said: Let’s make a wager shall we? Loser changes their avatar to Brady for a week? And I probably am wrong. No one seems to be able to figure it out. But I will say this, even Denver just tweeted that they are picking 10th..... It's all good Virgil. Some sites are showing the "current" standings with the current SOS and others are doing the probable. It seems most know the SOS will change and they show the Bills at 9. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts