The Senator Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 23 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said: Perhaps you can recommend an alternative for Bills talk? I’d gladly take my business elsewhere Welll, friend, I’ll agree that Buffalo is woefully short when it comes to sports radio. But Schoop is not sports radio, and never has been. He’s a wanna be shock jock, and doesn’t even do that well. Schoop is a wee tiny piece of fecal matter clinging to my rectal hair. I wipe him off, and flush him down the toilet. I don'teven watch WGRZ-TV because of that a-hole, lest there still be some loose affiliation. Sorry I can’t suggest an alternative, other than reading - the which is a skill Schoop does’t posess. Maybe our Rochester Bills fans have the solution. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffaloflash Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 5 hours ago, Straight Hucklebuck said: Mike Schopp is the best host on WGR. Next is Jeremy. They actually come up with ideas. Simon and Bulldog just parrot off those ideas. Hehehe! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil The Thrill Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 3 hours ago, Jpsredemption said: Schopps affinity for Jackson and hatred of Allen is race relayed. Allens twitter stuff sealed his fate with Schopp. There are other reasons as well but believe it..it's about race. You might be onto something here. Also you can make the argument that his hatred of Nate Peterman was race related too 2 hours ago, Joe in Winslow said: Perhaps you can recommend an alternative for Bills talk? I’d gladly take my business elsewhere I like the Bills Beat podcast. It drops around 8 PM in game day and about 6PM on Thursday before the game. For live coverage after the game, the only option is WGR 550. Unfortunately Empire Sports Net went under 2 decades ago!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78thealltimegreat Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 There’s objective then there’s people who drift into mental disorder range clearly Mike crossed that line on draft day..the people whose opinions he uses on his show had such a bias against Allen it was almost borderline absurd 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick the Greek Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 7 hours ago, clayboy54 said: Please guys... Just stop listening and he'll go away. Keep listening and he gets to stay. It's that simple. I've found an alternative, and a GOOD one at that. Check out the Sports Bar with Danger & Battaglia. They are on 3-6pm weekdays. They are a breath of fresh air compared to the ear vomit know as Shopp/Bulldog. Check it out! https://espnrochester.radio.com/shows/sports-bar-danger-battaglia 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 4 hours ago, Jpsredemption said: Schopps affinity for Jackson and hatred of Allen is race relayed. Allens twitter stuff sealed his fate with Schopp. There are other reasons as well but believe it..it's about race. it’s weird because until recently, Schopp didn’t really come across as a SJW at all. (IMO). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 (edited) Listening to WGR (specifically the 6am and 3pm shows) discuss Josh Allen developing and looking like the real deal is like watching MSNBC on election night 2016. Edited December 4, 2018 by Big Blitz 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jpsredemption Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 6 hours ago, Big Blitz said: Listening to WGR (specifically the 6am and 3pm shows) discuss Josh Allen developing and looking like the real deal is like watching MSNBC on election night 2016. Lol. It's generally group think on this radio station with the "alphas", if you want to call them that, Schopp and White dominating the conversation while their counterparts do little to ever really disagree and make more compelling radio. All four of their political affiliations are very much MSNBC like as well. Schopp often taking Suttle shots at the current administration. 7 hours ago, RiotAct said: it’s weird because until recently, Schopp didn’t really come across as a SJW at all. He belongs on a west coast campus fighting battles about epidemics that hardly exist. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commish Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 8 hours ago, Idandria said: I've found an alternative, and a GOOD one at that. Check out the Sports Bar with Danger & Battaglia. They are on 3-6pm weekdays. They are a breath of fresh air compared to the ear vomit know as Shopp/Bulldog. Check it out! https://espnrochester.radio.com/shows/sports-bar-danger-battaglia Eh, if you're looking for insight, keep looking. The Sports Bar is pretty lowest-common-denominator sports fare. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlonce Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 16 hours ago, Joe in Winslow said: It's not a matter of difference of opinion, it's a matter of a body of work of years worth of being an insufferable douche. The wrong opinion is the cherry on top of the crap sundae. Great title and you spelled “douche” correctly. Someone last week spelled it “doosh” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 15 minutes ago, dlonce said: Great title and you spelled “douche” correctly. Someone last week spelled it “doosh” I thought "doosh" was a way to try to avoid the bad word filter. But apparently "douche" is just fine. Maybe it's in deference to our Quebecois posters. Either way, I still find my juvenile mind curiously amused by the idea of the Pantheon of Insufferable Douches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Day 10 Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 (edited) What do people want in Sports Radio talk show hosts? We hate Murphy, we hate Schopp, Bulldog, White, Bucky and Sully.... anyone else? We hate everyone in the Buffalo news. Hate everyone on national telecasts, Lacanfora, etc.... We just want 24 hours of "Sal"? I couldnt imagine having the job of driving content in the Buffalo market, covering 2 teams who have been really bad and not relevant for a long time Edited December 4, 2018 by May Day 10 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wagon127 Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 13 minutes ago, May Day 10 said: What do people want in Sports Radio talk show hosts? We hate Murphy, we hate Schopp, Bulldog, White, Bucky and Sully.... anyone else? We hate everyone in the Buffalo news. Hate everyone on national telecasts, Lacanfora, etc.... We just want 24 hours of "Sal"? I couldnt imagine having the job of driving content in the Buffalo market, covering 2 teams who have been really bad and not relevant for a long time People can complain about WGR's content all they want, but it seems to be a very successful station. They have balance through out the day. You have John Murphy who thinks there's a chance we can win the super bowl every year. You have Schopp and the Bull Dog who are critical of the teams, which makes it easy to trust what they say, because both teams are usually not very good. I tune in to listen, because usually if they are happy about something, the team must have done something great. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 Does anyone agree with me this is one of the best titles this board has seen? This is like something you would read in the Iliad. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 6 minutes ago, May Day 10 said: What do people want in Sports Radio talk show hosts? We hate Murphy, we hate Schopp, Bulldog, White, Bucky and Sully.... anyone else? We hate everyone in the Buffalo news. Hate everyone on national telecasts, Lacanfora, etc.... We just want 24 hours of "Sal"? I couldnt imagine having the job of driving content in the Buffalo market, covering 2 teams who have been really bad and not relevant for a long time Your point is well made and I largely agree. Buffalo fans are a finicky bunch for sure. I think what happens is there's a faction of fans that take things in stride and there's another faction of fans that get overly emotional about the teams. The overly emotional fans either need someone to be as upset as they are or they get over the top upset if you don't agree with them. The take things in stride fans want analysis vs outburts and they get agitated with media trying to elicit responses. They feel it just dumbs down the overall experience. Buffalo media has rarely found that voice that knows how to handle the emotional fans yet still engage them and yet still have knowledgeable insight to attract the fan that wants things broken down. There's two things the majority of Buffalo fans don't like. One is when outsiders criticize us when it's ill informed. The second thing is local media that aren't fans of the team. Mike Schopp is not a Buffalo sports fan. It's a job and I think most think he'd rather us be bad. That's why Sal is so well liked. He can be critical of the team but we know he loves them and ultimately wants them to succeed. When you say Jackson throws the ball better than Allen. You want the fans not to like you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Day 10 Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 (edited) 14 minutes ago, wagon127 said: People can complain about WGR's content all they want, but it seems to be a very successful station. They have balance through out the day. You have John Murphy who thinks there's a chance we can win the super bowl every year. You have Schopp and the Bull Dog who are critical of the teams, which makes it easy to trust what they say, because both teams are usually not very good. I tune in to listen, because usually if they are happy about something, the team must have done something great. I cant figure out why it makes people unhappy and it riles them up. I listen to the morning show at work. I like both guys pretty well enough. I like hockey hotline as well. Peters (who I hated with Sylvester) has improved a lot, and him with Biron and Rivet is great. I do not enjoy the John Murphy show and usually put on music for the rest of the day. It is just kind of dull, and by then I had enough sports talk. I dont listen to schopp and the bulldog much. To me, its very repetitive, as is being a fan of these teams. I will listen on my commute sometimes and they put on a good show. When the Sabres were hot, I was tuning in. There is a show on 1270 with Gleason and Sullivan. There are various podcasts like Buscaglia and Fairburn which is quite good. There is that one posted above. There are options. It is just a lot. We are looking at (on WGR) like 60-80 hours per week dedicated to talking about the Bills and Sabres. What can they possibly talk about that much and remain interesting and pleasing to everybody. A host saying that "Lamar Jackson has out-passed Josh Allen, come at me", is a smart way to rile people up and fill in some hours. And it is a defensible position. It isnt from being a social justice warrior or a "lib". Its carrying a radio program with limited content in a somewhat uninteresting Bills season. Edited December 4, 2018 by May Day 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 1 hour ago, May Day 10 said: We just want 24 hours of "Sal"? No. We. Don't. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Jabber Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 Jerry Sullivan and Bucky Gleason were driven out of town by the Pegula's, too bad they couldn't do the same to Mike Schopp. But, removing two out of the three douchebags isn't bad. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevieJohnsonGOAT Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 I have a friend that works for Entercom. The ratings for the afternoon show have been declining for years. Hopefully they will be making changes soon. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drf1835 Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 18 hours ago, OrtonHearsaWho said: Mercifully I live in Rochester so I only listen to Schopp during post game on WCMF (I mean could still listen to him in other ways but I don't hate myself enough to do that). I honestly believe that a) he really is not that big of a fan of the Bills and b) he genuinely hates his job. The utter disdain and contempt that he seems to have with seemingly EVERY caller is insane. a. True, many many years ago he said he hated football and was not a fan, and liked other sports instead. His hatred of foofball shows by his idiotic comments, poor analysis, and his desire to talk about himself and other garbage instead. b. Partially true. He hates his job when he has to talk to all of his perceived idiotic callers, and when he has to talk football stuff. He seems to only love the part of the job where he is talking to himself, and trying to show how brillant he is and how dumb listeneres are. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XXX Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 2 hours ago, May Day 10 said: What do people want in Sports Radio talk show hosts? We hate Murphy, we hate Schopp, Bulldog, White, Bucky and Sully.... anyone else? We hate everyone in the Buffalo news. Hate everyone on national telecasts, Lacanfora, etc.... We just want 24 hours of "Sal"? I couldnt imagine having the job of driving content in the Buffalo market, covering 2 teams who have been really bad and not relevant for a long time I prefer ex-atheletes who have actually played the game. You have the people mentioned above who have dominated the media here, and act like they know everything, who haven't even played in beer leagues...look at all the groupings above, all journalists. (allegedly); at least Murphy is partnered with Tasker or Donald Jones.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bockeye Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 39 minutes ago, drf1835 said: a. True, many many years ago he said he hated football and was not a fan, and liked other sports instead. His hatred of foofball shows by his idiotic comments, poor analysis, and his desire to talk about himself and other garbage instead. b. Partially true. He hates his job when he has to talk to all of his perceived idiotic callers, and when he has to talk football stuff. He seems to only love the part of the job where he is talking to himself, and trying to show how brillant he is and how dumb listeneres are. Agree 100%. Listen to WGR quite a bit, but as soon as he comes on, I turn it off. XXX - I think Sal is awesome - well balanced and typically does not treat his callers as morons as soon as they utter a word. He will get on some that aren't well prepared, but that's about it. I'd rather have Sal on for 24 hrs. than listen to Mikes drivel. Also - I agree that ex-athletes make a show much more balanced with greater insight. I've listened to Eric Woods when he calls in, would like to see him get a shot. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrtonHearsaWho Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 44 minutes ago, drf1835 said: a. True, many many years ago he said he hated football and was not a fan, and liked other sports instead. His hatred of foofball shows by his idiotic comments, poor analysis, and his desire to talk about himself and other garbage instead. b. Partially true. He hates his job when he has to talk to all of his perceived idiotic callers, and when he has to talk football stuff. He seems to only love the part of the job where he is talking to himself, and trying to show how brillant he is and how dumb listeneres are. He actually said that he hates football? I guess that explains it a bit. For what it's worth, he actually does get a lot of dumb callers during post game but it doesn't seem to matter...just about everyone gets the same attitude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Firebaugh Kid Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 Lamar isnt even the better runner. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Day 10 Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 Ex athletes dont always (or often) make good broadcasters. Especially when it comes to filling an entire 4-hour show. NFL players also seem a bit more.... 'rigid' than NHL players. I think Tasker is pretty boring on One Bills Live, and he has been doing it for going on 2 decades. Donald Jones was an absolute bore. Someone mentioned Eric Wood, but how would he be 20 hours a week... and would he want to move to Buffalo for a heavy-lift type of gig that pays peanuts compared to his NFL-money? I value the point of view of a "fan" for shows like that. Need X's and O's, that's what guests are for. A daily 4-hour show only about analyzing the game itself, realistic roster moves, the makeup of the practice squad, etc would be awful for a 4-8 team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbb Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 4 hours ago, May Day 10 said: There is a show on 1270 with Gleason and Sullivan. There are various podcasts like Buscaglia and Fairburn which is quite good. There is that one posted above. There are options. Does 1270 have local programming other than Bucky and Sully? A host saying that "Lamar Jackson has out-passed Josh Allen, come at me", is a smart way to rile people up and fill in some hours. And it is a defensible position. It isnt from being a social justice warrior or a "lib". Its carrying a radio program with limited content in a somewhat uninteresting Bills season. I heard the beginning of yesterday and he said how mad he was at his friend who said he's just taking this Jackson better passer position to be contrarian..............And, yet I've heard him say he loves to be contrarian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnycage46 Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 5 hours ago, The Frankish Reich said: I thought "doosh" was a way to try to avoid the bad word filter. But apparently "douche" is just fine. Maybe it's in deference to our Quebecois posters. Either way, I still find my juvenile mind curiously amused by the idea of the Pantheon of Insufferable Douches. It's also a newer "cool" way of saying douche. I used the term "doosh" earlier and I felt very cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stanley Lombardi Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 21 minutes ago, Johnnycage46 said: It's also a newer "cool" way of saying douche. I used the term "doosh" earlier and I felt very cool. I am innately un-cool, so I am going to see if "doosh" does the same for me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stony Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 1 hour ago, May Day 10 said: Ex athletes dont always (or often) make good broadcasters. Especially when it comes to filling an entire 4-hour show. NFL players also seem a bit more.... 'rigid' than NHL players. I think Tasker is pretty boring on One Bills Live, and he has been doing it for going on 2 decades. Donald Jones was an absolute bore. Someone mentioned Eric Wood, but how would he be 20 hours a week... and would he want to move to Buffalo for a heavy-lift type of gig that pays peanuts compared to his NFL-money? I value the point of view of a "fan" for shows like that. Need X's and O's, that's what guests are for. A daily 4-hour show only about analyzing the game itself, realistic roster moves, the makeup of the practice squad, etc would be awful for a 4-8 team. It would be bad even for an 8-4 team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock-A-Bye Beasley Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 Joe changed his name but still only posts complaints about any slight negativity towards the Buffalo Bills without any counter-arguments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick the Greek Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 8 hours ago, Roch-A-Bill said: Eh, if you're looking for insight, keep looking. The Sports Bar is pretty lowest-common-denominator sports fare. Any suggestions? Bad ideas are are better than no ideas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnycage46 Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 2 hours ago, Blue on Blue said: I am innately un-cool, so I am going to see if "doosh" does the same for me! DO it....warning though...the coolness wore off pretty quickly. Mileage may vary 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight Hucklebuck Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 20 hours ago, The Senator said: Welll, friend, I’ll agree that Buffalo is woefully short when it comes to sports radio. But Schoop is not sports radio, and never has been. He’s a wanna be shock jock, and doesn’t even do that well. Schoop is a wee tiny piece of fecal matter clinging to my rectal hair. I wipe him off, and flush him down the toilet. I don'teven watch WGRZ-TV because of that a-hole, lest there still be some loose affiliation. Sorry I can’t suggest an alternative, other than reading - the which is a skill Schoop does’t posess. Maybe our Rochester Bills fans have the solution. What kind of host do you like? Do you like homers - Murphy and Sal give you that. Do you like guys who just roll out of bed and start talking sports - you have Chris Parker and Howard Simon. Do you like you like young hosts - Derek Kramer, Joe Diabase, Brayton Wilson Nationally what hosts do you like? Fox usually has a distinct difference from ESPN. Clay Travis, Mike and Wingo, Dan Lebatard, Colin Cowherd, Dan Patrick, Jim Rome and do on. So you bash Schopp, tell us who’s style you like the most. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbb Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 2 minutes ago, Straight Hucklebuck said: What kind of host do you like? Do you like homers - Murphy and Sal give you that. Do you like guys who just roll out of bed and start talking sports - you have Chris Parker and Howard Simon. Do you like you like young hosts - Derek Kramer, Joe Diabase, Brayton Wilson Nationally what hosts do you like? Fox usually has a distinct difference from ESPN. Clay Travis, Mike and Wingo, Dan Lebatard, Colin Cowherd, Dan Patrick, Jim Rome and do on. So you bash Schopp, tell us who’s style you like the most. Haha. That's a pretty good assessment. I haven't been listening much at all - is Bulldog's son still playing for the Soo in the AHL. I didn't see him on the roster, although I saw he made the team at the end of August. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Joshin' Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 Douches have a legit purposes Schopp not so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Senator Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 (edited) 22 minutes ago, Straight Hucklebuck said: What kind of host do you like? Do you like homers - Murphy and Sal give you that. Do you like guys who just roll out of bed and start talking sports - you have Chris Parker and Howard Simon. Do you like you like young hosts - Derek Kramer, Joe Diabase, Brayton Wilson Nationally what hosts do you like? Fox usually has a distinct difference from ESPN. Clay Travis, Mike and Wingo, Dan Lebatard, Colin Cowherd, Dan Patrick, Jim Rome and do on. So you bash Schopp, tell us who’s style you like the most. Locally I like Josh Reed, Sal Cappscio, Thad Brown, Murph, Tasker, basically anyone who’s not an a-hole and a douchebag like Schoop. Nationally, I’d say Cynthia Frelund is my favorite. . Edited December 4, 2018 by The Senator Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 30 minutes ago, Straight Hucklebuck said: What kind of host do you like? Do you like homers - Murphy and Sal give you that. Do you like guys who just roll out of bed and start talking sports - you have Chris Parker and Howard Simon. Do you like you like young hosts - Derek Kramer, Joe Diabase, Brayton Wilson Nationally what hosts do you like? Fox usually has a distinct difference from ESPN. Clay Travis, Mike and Wingo, Dan Lebatard, Colin Cowherd, Dan Patrick, Jim Rome and do on. So you bash Schopp, tell us who’s style you like the most. Sal isn't a homer. He does with for the Bills so he can't trash em. But he's pretty even keeled. Maybe you are thinking of someone more fair and balanced like Coach Chuck Dickerson? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight Hucklebuck Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 (edited) 16 minutes ago, The Senator said: Locally I like Josh Reed, Sal Cappscio, Thad Brown, Murph, Tasker, basically anyone who’s not an a-hole and a douchebag like Schoop. Nationally, I’d say Cynthia Frelund is my favorite. . So that makes sense. You generally like homers. Sal and Murph fall into that category. You don’t like Schopp, and I’d guess Jeremy White, because they actively challenge the Bills and Sabres decisions and logic. I have no idea who Cynthia Frelund is. 6 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: Sal isn't a homer. He does with for the Bills so he can't trash em. But he's pretty even keeled. Maybe you are thinking of someone more fair and balanced like Coach Chuck Dickerson? Sal is generally a homer. He doesn’t fit with fans who criticize the team. Generally he swoops in to defend the Bills. Dickerson was a loud mouth, but part of his schtick pulled you in because the debate was spirited. Edited December 4, 2018 by Straight Hucklebuck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 4 minutes ago, Straight Hucklebuck said: So that makes sense. You generally like homers. Sal and Murph fall into that category. You don’t like Schopp, and I’d guess Jeremy White, because they actively challenge the Bills and Sabres decisions and logic. I have no idea who Cynthia Frelund is. Sal is generally a homer. He doesn’t fit with fans who criticize the team. Generally he swoops in to defend the Bills. Dickerson was a loud mouth, but part of his schtick pulled you in because the debate was spirited. Some fans want negative. It's a catharsis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven50 Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 On 12/3/2018 at 3:45 PM, OrtonHearsaWho said: Mercifully I live in Rochester so I only listen to Schopp during post game on WCMF (I mean could still listen to him in other ways but I don't hate myself enough to do that). I honestly believe that a) he really is not that big of a fan of the Bills and b) he genuinely hates his job. The utter disdain and contempt that he seems to have with seemingly EVERY caller is insane. I think they disdain is for football. They both positively glow when talking about hockey even when the sabres suck. The problem is they are both Hockey guys and don't seem to know much about any other sport. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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