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17-42 with 3 pickles for Savior Sam 

 

Little food for thought for the anti Allen club. 

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Sam Darnold is starting to separate from the rest of his QB draft class.

 

Tyler Dunne was just commenting on this recently, mentioning Darnold is showing like 5th year understanding already and has the QB experts drooling.  

 

Allen is a bust waiting to happen.

 

 

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Way too early to know anything.   Hopefully Allen stays injured and watches a few more games.   At least for the next one. 

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5 minutes ago, Fadingpain said:

Sam Darnold is starting to separate from the rest of his QB draft class.

 

Tyler Dunne was just commenting on this recently, mentioning Darnold is showing like 5th year understanding already and has the QB experts drooling.  

 

Allen is a bust waiting to happen.

 

 

 

You’ve repeated your last sentence 89 times 

 

The hat trick of interceptions for Sam brings the separation back down a few inches.  

9 minutes ago, Elite Poster said:

So do the Colts think Darnold > Allen?

 

The Colts played Anderson.   

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Darnold is a rookie QB just like Mayfield, Allen, and Rosen. There will be ups and downs for all of them. Darnold also has the 2nd most talent around him behind Mayfield. Allen and Rosen are working with next to nothing. 

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I still think people on this board are to ready to call Allen a bust.  He has so much talent. But is very raw in his experience.   Once the games slows down for him and he can be surrounded by better talent on offense,  he has a good chance to be the franchise quarterback we are hoping he will be.

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1 hour ago, Fadingpain said:

Sam Darnold is starting to separate from the rest of his QB draft class.

 

Tyler Dunne was just commenting on this recently, mentioning Darnold is showing like 5th year understanding already and has the QB experts drooling.  

 

Allen is a bust waiting to happen.

 

 

 

Really? He’s looking like a rookie

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Why you drop a confused emoji on me CB ? 

 

Brrrrrrrrrr.  It’s getting chilly 😝

 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/nypost.com/2018/10/21/sam-darnold-sounds-cold-alarms-that-even-the-vikings-noticed/amp/

 

“It was fleeting. In the second and third quarters, Darnold was 2-for-14 for minus 1 yard. At a time when Gang Green held the fort, Darn Cold froze” 

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22 minutes ago, longtimebillsfan said:

I still think people on this board are to ready to call Allen a bust   he has so much talent. But us very raw in his experience.   Once the games slows down for him and he can be surrounded by better talent on offense,  he has a good chance to be the franchise quarterback we are hoping he will be.

That's the problem though..will the game ever slow down for him? In watching a lot of his progressions and throws it just seems he doesn't see the field and process what is going on. As a Bill's fan I hope I am utterly wrong; I just get these visions of Losman ver. 2.0. In three years it will be one of two outcomes 1) all us so called  arm chair GMs/Coaches will be shown we don't know crap or 2) everyone will question the efficacy of using all that draft capital on a risky project QB.

 

It really doesn't matter what any of us think at this point as the Pegulas need to let this play out over the next 3-4 years and hope that McBeane knew what he (they) were doing.

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2 hours ago, Teddy KGB said:

17-42 with 3 pickles for Savior Sam 

 

Little food for thought for the anti Allen club. 

Allen sees the field well but he doesn't take chances or make good decisions. Is that who he is or is it because he played at Wyoming and is in his rookie year? It's hard to tell. He could progress into a really good QB, maybe best in this class or he could never move away from his mobile vision and remain who he is. It took Steve Young a while to get it. It might take 5 to 7 years but I think that is the ceiling Allen could reach, Young/McNair. Or he could be just better than Tyrod, somewhere close to Nick Foles. He's a tough read.

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56 minutes ago, longtimebillsfan said:

I still think people on this board are to ready to call Allen a bust   he has so much talent. But us very raw in his experience.   Once the games slows down for him and he can be surrounded by better talent on offense,  he has a good chance to be the franchise quarterback we are hoping he will be.

 

B-but Allen was terrible at Wyoming! I even heard Mike Schopp say it on the radio so I know it’s true!

 

Wyoming is currently 2-6 (0-4 in the Mountain West) and is ranked 120th in the FBS subdivision in total offense.

 

Its a wonder why Allen didn’t effortlessly light up opposing defenses with video game numbers in such an offensive machine known as the Wyoming Cowboys football program. 

 

To go from that to this situation in Buffalo - I’m beginning to think that Josh Allen may just be the unluckiest SOB alive.

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Based on what I have seen so far, I would trade Allen for Darnold immediately. 

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1 minute ago, davspo said:

Based on what I have seen so far, I would trade Allen for Darnold immediately. 

 

I wouldn't.  He's a turnover machine and was his last year of college, which is what turned me off from him after a really good freshman season. 

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24 minutes ago, davspo said:

Based on what I have seen so far, I would trade Allen for Darnold immediately. 

That has all the making of another "curse."  A trade within the AFC East could bite us for years to come...or not.

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The 4 rookie QB’s  have had their ups and downs and all have a long way to go...

 

Let’s revisit this time next year...

 

I will be very surprised if any of them look as good as Mahomes is looking this year though..

 

 

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We have taken a step back in talent evaluation. The result will be 3-13 seasons. We are moving in the wrong direction.

The QB position is to hard to successfully draft and all of the QB's that were drafted last year seem to have issues regarding consistency that you would expect from a rookie. Allen is the only one that doesn't have a support system and that is poor management. Mayfield is the best and clearly has the best understanding of the game. Allen and Rosen are bringing up the rear in this horse race.

All of the QB's are being mentored by QB's that are proven solid QB's except for Allen. Our GM forgot about this aspect of QB development. Allen may not develop until our GM and coach does. Allen is a 3 year project if given an improving O-Line. 

 

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Sam Darnold has looked good at times - Fact

Sam Darnold has looked bad at times - Fact

Sam Darnold has more talent around him than Allen - Fact

Sam Darnold turns the ball over way too much - Fact

 

The last one is what worried fans of teams looking to draft him.  He's talented, but for whatever reason, has turned the ball over a lot at USC, and now in the NFL.  If he can't fix that, he will never be more than mediocre.

 

 

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Mayfield is the best QB of the rookies right now and it's not even close. 

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3 hours ago, ProcessTruster said:

Way too early to know anything.   Hopefully Allen stays injured and watches a few more games.   At least for the next one. 

 

It's not way too early. It's a little early. No need to be delusional and pretend that anything can happen. It's looking like a long shot for Allen and fans need to be honest about that.

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Anti Allen? 

He is ours, and that is reality. He may very well turn out to be the best of the class as time goes on, but we have to crawl through the mud, and it’s getting quite old, but crawl we will..

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3 hours ago, Fadingpain said:

Sam Darnold is starting to separate from the rest of his QB draft class.

 

Tyler Dunne was just commenting on this recently, mentioning Darnold is showing like 5th year understanding already and has the QB experts drooling.  

 

Allen is a bust waiting to happen.

 

 

 

What is the basis for this statement?   There is nothing to indicate that Darnold is clearly ahead of the rest of the rookie QBs.   Has the same ups and downs as everyone else.

 

AME LOG PASSING RUSHING
DATE OPP RESULT CMP ATT YDS CMP% AVG LNG TD INT QBR RAT ATT YDS AVG LNG TD
Sun 10/21 L 17-37 17 42 206 40.5 4.91 35 1 3 5.9 34.4 6 18 3.0 10 1
Sun 10/14 W 42-34 24 30 280 80.0 9.33 32 2 1 90.5 113.9 6 8 1.3 6 0
Sun 10/7 W 34-16 10 22 198 45.5 9.00 76 3 1 58.0 98.1 3 5 1.7 3 0
Sun 9/30 L 12-31 17 34 167 50.0 4.91 42 1 0 15.6 74.0 2 8 4.0 5 0
Thu 9/20 L 17-21 15 31 169 48.4 5.45 25 0 2 30.9 38.2 0 0 0.0 0 0

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3 hours ago, H2o said:

Darnold is a rookie QB just like Mayfield, Allen, and Rosen. There will be ups and downs for all of them. Darnold also has the 2nd most talent around him behind Mayfield. Allen and Rosen are working with next to nothing. 

I would kill for 35 year old Larry Fitzgerald and 26 year old David Johnson

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10 minutes ago, Soda Popinski said:

Mayfield is the best QB of the rookies right now and it's not even close. 

I agree with that. He hasn’t been great but he hasn’t really looked lost, except vs the Chargers. He seems like he knows where to go and what to do. He has made some questionable decisions and Head scratching plays but that’s to be expected. Then again he’s the #1 pick so he should look the best. 

 

I think all the rookie QBs look like how they were assumed to look coming out of college. No real surprises other than I thought Rosen had better pocket presence. He had a trash OL at UCLA too so I thought he would handle it a bit better. 

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