Drunken Pygmy Goat Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 30 minutes ago, Jauronimo said: It was the greatest mentorship the NFL has known since Kevin Kolb taught a young EJ Manuel about water safety. IDK...AJMac did mentor a "project" into a "superman" 1 minute ago, LOVEMESOMEBILLS said: No thank you Fixed it for ya? And everyone else 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lfod Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 I think the idea of a better back up isn't a bad one. I just think it will be a no name emergency type thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOVEMESOMEBILLS Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 1 minute ago, Drunken Pygmy Goat said: IDK...AJMac did mentor a "project" into a "superman" Fixed it for ya? And everyone else Nope. That doesn't come close to properly reflecting how I feel. Why would anyone want Sam I suck so bad Bradford to come here? Didn't want him in the offseason and certainly don't want him now. It's like watching paint dry while someone repeatedly rakes their fingers down a chalkboard and screams J-E-T-S JETS, JETS, JETS at you over and over again with a megaphone from two feet away. Ef that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreggTX Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 Not even remotely interested in paying his salary or giving away draft picks. NO!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drunken Pygmy Goat Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 (edited) 8 minutes ago, LOVEMESOMEBILLS said: Nope. That doesn't come close to properly reflecting how I feel. Clearly... 8 minutes ago, LOVEMESOMEBILLS said: It's like watching paint dry while someone repeatedly rakes their fingers down a chalkboard and screams J-E-T-S JETS, JETS, JETS at you over and over again with a megaphone from two feet away. Ef that. If there's a hell on earth, this may be it. 10 minutes ago, Lfod said: I think the idea of a better back up isn't a bad one. I just think it will be a no name emergency type thing. Peterman/Fales just has a fitting sound to it. Edited September 26, 2018 by Drunken Pygmy Goat 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Sack Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 Kaepernick & Allen would be a good mix. Cut Peterman. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 I don't want a super expensive backup QB who has recently been playing like crap and has a novel sized injury history. Seriously, Bradford has extorted more money out of this league than any player I can remember. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kota Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 There is something called a salary cap. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danc Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 3 hours ago, Drunken Pygmy Goat said: Nah. Ride or die this season with Allen. This isn't a contending team, so keep the draft picks. If Allen gets hurt, we may be subjected to more NP, and a street FA will be signed, but it will likely result in a better draft position. IMO a team should trade away picks for immediate, "impactful" help at QB only if the team has a shot at conteding. I think this is the way Bills management is going. Allen or bust! If Allen gets hurt pick up a FA and see if he is worth keeping next season. We need the draft picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 No, we need those picks to rebuild . If Allen goes down we bring in Moore or Anderson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 Most teams are structured in such a manner that if the starting QB goes down for an appreciable amount of time, the season is forfeited. And most teams seem OK with that arrangement. We could still benefit from a better backup however. Peterman is not really a backup caliber player. He is more of a #3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 If we didn't draft EJ Manuel, would we people here be floating his name as a backup upgrade over Peterman? My guess is yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pbomb Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 4 hours ago, GoodHands15 said: Make no mistake. Bradford’s one of the smarter qbs in the nfl imo. He mentored Carson Wentz didn’t he? Carson wentz started right away. I think this whole “mentoring thing” is a little overrated, that is what coaches are for 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 5 hours ago, GoodHands15 said: Hey guys. Quick thought to think. Fiscally irrisponsibe to trade for Sam Bradford since JA on rookie deal? SB>NP SB$=AJM$ SbContractLength=1 Plus we could always sell Bradford if someone else needs to buy him. Bad idea? I get Nate Peterman knows x’s and o’s but I’d like to think Bradford could teach. Why would any other team want him....why would the Bills want him......do you watch him play....he is awful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 No, no, no, no. Of course Sam Bradford is better than Nathan Peterman. There are QBs who have been retired a decade who are better than him. But can we stop proposing giving up assets for sticking plasters? It is not a good idea at wide receiver, nor at Quarterback. I would bring a guy off the street to replace Nate - even if Matt Moore is done there are other guys out there - hell Bryce Petty is an upgrade on Nathan Peterman. But keep our assets. They are vital for building this team around Josh and the other young pieces we have. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 5 hours ago, Rochesterfan said: Not something I want to see. Bradford is not good and very expensive. Rather see a cheap deal for Moore than see them waste a pick and money on Bradford. Huge No Thanks!! At this point I would like to just bring in Derek Anderson to support the rookie QB. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmart128 Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 Doesn't he getbpaud like 20 million the year. Not only would that make it a horrendous deal I don't think we can afford him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 6 hours ago, GoodHands15 said: Hey guys. Quick thought to think. Fiscally irrisponsibe to trade for Sam Bradford since JA on rookie deal? SB>NP SB$=AJM$ SbContractLength=1 Plus we could always sell Bradford if someone else needs to buy him. Bad idea? I get Nate Peterman knows x’s and o’s but I’d like to think Bradford could teach. ....shipped in three boxes......assembly required............... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 6 hours ago, GoodHands15 said: Sizzling hot take Perfectly reasonable take Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 2 hours ago, Fadingpain said: Most teams are structured in such a manner that if the starting QB goes down for an appreciable amount of time, the season is forfeited. And most teams seem OK with that arrangement. We could still benefit from a better backup however. Peterman is not really a backup caliber player. He is more of a #33. Fixed for you. 2 hours ago, Doc Brown said: If we didn't draft EJ Manuel, would we people here be floating his name as a backup upgrade over Peterman? My guess is yes. I am not advocating bringing back EJ.... but it is beyond dispute that he is an upgrade on Nathan Peterman. EJ is a bad NFL Quarterback. Nate Peterman isn't an NFL Quarterback in any shape or form. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll Toll Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 6 hours ago, billsfan11 said: What did I say that's incorrect? I would wait and see what Rosen does in AZ before heaping all the blame on Bradford. AZ has new coaching, a really bad offensive line and a lack of talent at receiver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rochesterfan Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 5 hours ago, Dr.Sack said: Kaepernick & Allen would be a good mix. Cut Peterman. Nope - I want nothing to do with Kap at all- even if you could get him on a cheap one year deal. He offers nothing of substance at the QB position and becomes more of a weekly distraction every time he speaks. Let him ride off and be gone - the league does not miss his play. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 Just now, Troll Toll said: I would wait and see what Rosen does in AZ before heaping all the blame on Bradford. AZ has new coaching, a really bad offensive line and a lack of talent at receiver. And the coaching looks baaaaaaaad. Throwing your rookie to the wolves with 5 minutes left in the 4th Quarter of a game that is still in the balance strikes me as the action of a man in way, way, way over his head. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 2 minutes ago, Troll Toll said: I would wait and see what Rosen does in AZ before heaping all the blame on Bradford. AZ has new coaching, a really bad offensive line and a lack of talent at receiver. So, basically what Josh Allen has to deal with. At least Rosen has Larry Fitzgerald. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollars 2 donuts Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 7 hours ago, klos63 said: teach what? Oh come on, you think it’s just naturally easy to fumble in the shadow of the other teams goal posts late in a game? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Troll Toll Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 18 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: So, basically what Josh Allen has to deal with. At least Rosen has Larry Fitzgerald. Bills did make the playoffs last year. Despite fan perception, I’d say Allen is incredibly lucky to be in Buffalo over AZ. I think history will show that this year’s Cardinals are a complete dumpster fire. Losing Bruce Arians was huge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 To the OP, have you watched an Arizona game this year. If so, you wouldn’t have started this thread. Absolutely not, and he is not tradeable at this point. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 29 minutes ago, Troll Toll said: Bills did make the playoffs last year. Despite fan perception, I’d say Allen is incredibly lucky to be in Buffalo over AZ. I think history will show that this year’s Cardinals are a complete dumpster fire. Losing Bruce Arians was huge. Put it this way... in the battle of former Panthers DCs I think we have the right one. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Chandler's Hands Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 8 hours ago, Jauronimo said: Bradford and Wentz overlapped for one offseason. Sam was traded before Week 1 of Wentz's rookie year. Yeah but those few weeks made all the difference in Wentz's career. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 (edited) I’d rather have Sam Sweetheart Edited September 26, 2018 by Kirby Jackson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juice_32 Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 I'd rather have Peterman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 This is Allen's team, players need to come to him, Bradford is a distraction and may potentially undermine Allen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 No, no, and no! Too brittle, too costly, and highly ineffective this season with the Cardinals which explains why Josh Rosen is now the starting QB. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJ Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 Just no! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in Chicago Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 2 hours ago, GunnerBill said: I am not advocating bringing back EJ.... but it is beyond dispute that he is an upgrade on Nathan Peterman. EJ is a bad NFL Quarterback. Nate Peterman isn't an NFL Quarterback in any shape or form. The thought of bringing back EJ did come to my mind too after that disastrous first week. I honestly didn't follow the news regarding EJ but if he is still available, I would sadly consider it. Peterman should be out if the NFL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 9 hours ago, GoodHands15 said: Hey guys. Quick thought to think. Fiscally irrisponsibe to trade for Sam Bradford since JA on rookie deal? SB>NP SB$=AJM$ SbContractLength=1 Plus we could always sell Bradford if someone else needs to buy him. Bad idea? I get Nate Peterman knows x’s and o’s but I’d like to think Bradford could teach. Loud bottom line: The Cardinals have the same need we do right now: a veteran backup QB who can play (kind of). Why on earth would they trade him? What would be their motivation? Little known secondary story: Sam Bradford has done pretty well in a WCO and whatever you call what Shurmur ran in Philly and Minn (Spread, WCO, whatevs) His Worst.Year.Ever was his 2nd season. Josh McDaniels as HC. Erhardt Perkins offense. 10 games 6 TD 6 INT. He stunk. What type offense we running? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 ...helluva return on this investment............ Sam Bradford Quarterback Career Earnings: $124,045,000 Career APY: $15,505,625 Potential Earnings: $143,045,000 Total Guarantees: $159,000,000 Largest Cash Payment: $26,845,000 (2011) Largest Cap Hit: $25,000,000 (2019) .......1,855 completions or $66,870 each.....103 TD passes or $120,432 each......has appeared in 83 total games or $149,451 each..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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