Charlottebillsfan2 Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 I can see the argument that they will be getting a few WR's on the field with Gordon and Edelman so they should get better. But what about their d? 30th in the league in total yards giving up. 31st in the league in rushing yards giving up. 25th in the league in net passing yards 21st in the league in points per game Their next 4 game stretch they have the Fins, Colts, Chiefs, and Bears. 9-3 overall record. This slow start could turn out to be an epic slow start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpberr Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 I don't think it's the end of NE this year but I think what you do see is system fatigue. Regardless of outcome, I think the 2018-2019 is the last year of the Brady era. He looks bored, Gronk both slow and bored. Team lacks focus. I don't think Josh Gordon is going to amount to anything spectacular in NE. He's JAG until proven otherwise. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 Pats will turn it on soon; they always do unfortunately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Day 10 Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 38 minutes ago, apuszczalowski said: They dont need to stop the run, they just come back and score if their opponent scores If a team can run like that and keep that fat, slow defense on the field and tired... it can be a formula to beat them. Not sure if this is the year that is the end. However, I could see the team imploding if things go south a bit more. They absolutely NEED Gronk AND Edelman on offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 Could they give Brady a worse receiving core? Hogan - Solid role player Dorsett - Failed 1st rounder Patterson - Failed first rounder Gronk - Great player, injury risk Don't get me wrong, I hope they implode. But if your plan was to trade Jimmy G and win one or two more with Brady, assembling that team around him is a joke. They couldnt convince Allen Robinson to come play with Brady? or keep Brandon Cooks? If I was Brady, I'd be pissed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stank_Nasty Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 3 minutes ago, Captain Hindsight said: Could they give Brady a worse receiving core? I could think of one...... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 Ive seen this movie before, the ending sucks 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick the Greek Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 I think Collinsworth said last night they started 2-2 last season, only to go 13-3 the rest of the way. Still wayy to early to write them off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 Just now, Stank_Nasty said: I could think of one...... Oh yeah, ours sucks too. But Josh Allen isnt Brady preparing to ride off into the sunset. I just think its a disservice to a great player. Who are they playing that they cant afford Cooks or Robinson? https://overthecap.com/salary-cap/new-england-patriots/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stank_Nasty Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Captain Hindsight said: Oh yeah, ours sucks too. But Josh Allen isnt Brady preparing to ride off into the sunset. I just think its a disservice to a great player. Who are they playing that they cant afford Cooks or Robinson? https://overthecap.com/salary-cap/new-england-patriots/ by next week they'll have arguably the best slot weapon in the nfl on the field, arguably the best TE and a very solid outside guy in Hogan. I would give my left nut for allen to have a cast like that going forward. he's won superbowls with less than that. I think you(and skip Bayless) are slightly exaggerating how bad his weapons are. Edited September 24, 2018 by Stank_Nasty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 Edelman's 32 and coming off a major injury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramza86 Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 This is the kind of struggle you see the Pats get out of an end up making another superbowl... ugh... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 3 hours ago, mannc said: Unless the folks posting here are secretly members of the Bills 53-man roster or coaching staff, we can “look past GB” all we want and it won’t make a damn bit of difference. Fine, don't care. No one will hit your fingers with a ruler for doing so. Just that don't count your chickens before they're hatched is applicable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badassgixxer05 Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 13 minutes ago, Doc said: Edelman's 32 and coming off a major injury. No more PEDs also... ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corta765 Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 11 hours ago, John from Riverside said: So the patriots season relies on Josh Gordon Hmmmmm Seems like a "smokey" proposition lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 1 minute ago, Stank_Nasty said: by next week they'll have arguably the best slot weapon in the nfl on the field, arguably the best TE and a very solid outside guy in Hogan. I would give my left nut for allen to have a cast like that going forward. he's won superbowls with less than that. I think you(and skip Bayless) are slightly exaggerating how bad his weapons are. My point is they could have given him somebody worth a damn Two teams gave up on Patterson and the Colts gave up on Dorsett. Edelman is 32 and coming off a torn ACL. Hogan is fine, but his career high in catches is 41 with the Bills in 2014. He had 34 catches last year in an offense that throws the ball almost 57% of the time. Hes a JAG in every since of the word. Personally, If I was Brady, I'd be a little annoyed that this combination was the best Belicheck could do for him His Super Bowl win season targets 2002 - Troy Brown (97 catches) David Patten, and Deon Branch 2004 - Branch, Givens, Patten and Corey Dillion 2005- Same 2015 - Amendola, Edelman, Lafell, Dobson and Gronk 2016 - Hogan, Amendola, Floyd, Gronk, and Bennett Any of those combinations is better than what they have right now. We can disagree on the talent he has on the roster, I still think its a bad cast for a HOF player. Its why they are signing guys like Corey Coleman and trading for Josh Gordon. They see it too, the receivers suck and they are desperate to hit on someone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 Brady’s postgame interview was pretty telling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr1 Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 they look unprepared. Slater is taking up a receiver spot and he doesn't even get that many special teams tackles anymore http://www.nfl.com/player/matthewslater/4487/careerstats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 One of these days it will be the end, just not now. Still a year or 2 away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 Just now, TheTruthHurts said: One of these days it will be the end, just not now. Still a year or 2 away. They are toast. No more Super Bowl appearances and they will have their hands full just taking the division. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 Just now, Commonsense said: They are toast. No more Super Bowl appearances and they will have their hands full just taking the division. Not yet. They have had this game every year the last 5 years and we say the same thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 1 minute ago, TheTruthHurts said: Not yet. They have had this game every year the last 5 years and we say the same thing. They had this game vs. good teams not the Detroit Lions. They have a lack of talent problem, an aging problem and they seem disgruntled. Gronk admitting he threaten to retire because of the trade, Brady’s post game. Things are falling apart for them. Troy Brown says the ship is no longer just taking on water it is now cap sizing. Anyone see Tom Terrific launch the ball down the field because he was so pissed that Patterson cut his route short? Edelman returning will help them out but they are thin and all of their remaining key players are old. Sony is a joke, he isn’t special. If you take a first round RB he better be special. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerome007 Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 11 hours ago, DuckyBoys said: dunno they are vulnerable Exactly. Done? Doormats? Hell no. Beatable? Hell yes For years I've wanted the Bills to beat a PRIME Brady and Bellichick. Not wishing they simply retired as too many Bills fans do. What kind of lack of competitive spirit is that? Well, Brady is as sharp as ever, and BB as good. Yet their team is weaker and beating them on MNF and at home would be SSSSWWWWWWEEEEEEEEETTTTTTTTT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Day 10 Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 14 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: That was my take from the game. Speed of players wasnt even close on both sides of the ball, but Lions O vs Pats D was a mismatch. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven50 Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 I only watched the 2nd half but Brady looked slow and his deep ball seems to be gone. I don't know how much Edelman will have an impact. The guy is 32 and returning from an ACL injury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 2 minutes ago, May Day 10 said: That was my take from the game. Speed of players wasnt even close on both sides of the ball, but Lions O vs Pats D was a mismatch. The rookie for Detroit has some serious explosion. He was fun to watch. Maybe that was because their LBs are so bad but he looked really good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 Also, this was a game against a HC who has spent many years facing Brady and the offence in practice, he may know a few things about him and what to do to stop him. I figured BB would have made some changes to throw Patricia off, but it looks like he didnt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoTom Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 Too soon, OP. We're basking today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eanyills Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 Gordon necessitates the opposing defense pulling a safety out of the box. He alone relieves some pressure on Gronk and opens up the running game. Edelman should create more space, too. You can say what you want about him but just the prescense of Gordon on the field opens up things for Gronk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostbitmic Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 It's just their typical unimpressive September. I still get a smile on my face whenever they chalk one up in the loss column. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordio Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 2 hours ago, Captain Hindsight said: Could they give Brady a worse receiving core? Hogan - Solid role player Dorsett - Failed 1st rounder Patterson - Failed first rounder Gronk - Great player, injury risk Don't get me wrong, I hope they implode. But if your plan was to trade Jimmy G and win one or two more with Brady, assembling that team around him is a joke. They couldnt convince Allen Robinson to come play with Brady? or keep Brandon Cooks? If I was Brady, I'd be pissed Yeah Brady could have our receiving core. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mead107 Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 They are done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 Pats were 2-2 last year and then Brady put up 500 yards in the Super Bowl. Way too early to condemn the Pats. They got Gordon coming in, they have Edelman coming back, and they got Sony Michel just starting to get some reps who I think could wind up being a very dangerous weapon as the season goes on with young legs. Sony is still getting into game condition and learning to play in the NFL thanks to the small knee procedure that took his preseason. So while I LOVED watching the Lions beat them, I am not ready to say they are done or not making the playoffs. I need to see what this team can do when its back at full strength first before I rejoice in their demise. In the meantime, I am just enjoying our big win and their big loss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 Brady had a lot of off target passes and Gronk looks like he lost a step. LBs are slow. I would like to see this continue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misterbluesky Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 16 hours ago, 17 Josh Allen said: In the next few weeks they will get Julian Edelman back and Josh gordon in the line up. I’m loving this Lions beat down but i’m Cautious Gronkowski should have retired when the timing was right....he's no longer a massive weapon,his body is beat up and tired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ol Dirty B Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 I hope I'm wrong but I've seen this movie 3 times and I'm not believing the ending changes until this goes on a lot longer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jasovon Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 Pats have never started 1-2 with Brady. This is not your usual season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 1 minute ago, Ol Dirty B said: I hope I'm wrong but I've seen this movie 3 times and I'm not believing the ending changes until this goes on a lot longer Mighty quiet today, ODB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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