SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 1 minute ago, klos63 said: my comment was sarcastic. you forgot to use the sarcasm font Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 Just now, ShadyBillsFan said: not accepting. it comes with the territory of a rookie QB. and a crappy oline, no WR, not much at TE, weak at LB, missing a CB.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwai San Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 21 minutes ago, wppete said: I thought we were going to have a competitive team to cheer for this year. This is so awful. Seriously HOW could you think that??? ALL the signs were there that the Bills were going to struggle, the entire preseason showed that.....be prepared for more awful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 Just now, ShadyBillsFan said: you forgot to use the sarcasm font growing pains with a rebuild. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwai San Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 1 minute ago, klos63 said: I'm sure there is a plan to get better, but is it a good plan? Like I said - we shall see. I HOPE the plan is good.....as a fan what more can we do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 (edited) 9 minutes ago, joesixpack said: Correct. It's just !@#$ing wrong. I really think the drought demented people in a way that just can't be quantified. it's a patience issue, and i get it. i don't want to sit through a bunch of losses this year, but we all knew it was coming, and instead of getting excited to B word about it, i'm just dealing with it like an adult. we're all here for the ride. i don't know if it will actually improve this team in the future, but unfortunately this is part of it. Edited September 17, 2018 by teef 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablitzkrieg Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 For me, I was angry after week one, but have accepted that this year is about Allen's development, others as well. hopefully we see some improvement. I was optimistic w/ the defense in the 2nd half, but not angry. I knew they were going to lose, and probably lose the next 2 weeks as well. This is good for Allen to see theses defenses early in his career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 Just now, teef said: dealing with like an adult. Unfortunately, most here deal with it like a spoiled 5 year old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, Kwai San said: Seriously HOW could you think that??? ALL the signs were there that the Bills were going to struggle, the entire preseason showed that.....be prepared for more awful You are right. I was drinking the kool-aid McBean was putting out there. My bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Lamb Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 39 minutes ago, Steptide said: I found myself not caring at all that we lost yesterday. I was actually more excited to see Josh Allen's potential. Listening to the post game and even reading posts here, it seems most fans wernt THAT upset about it. This is a true re building year. We don't have that much talent at key positions. While I still want this team to win and turn it around this season, I'm fully pre pared for a 3 or 4 win season. The 1985 Bills started 0-6 - finished 2-12 and fielded Vince Ferragamo and Bruce Mathison directed by Kaye Stephenson (0-4) and Hank Bullough (2-12). But here was their 1985 Draft 1 1 Bruce Smith * † Defensive end Virginia Tech 1 14 Derrick Burroughs Defensive back Memphis 2 29 Mark Traynowicz Guard Nebraska 2 42 Chris Burkett Wide receiver Jackson State 3 57 Frank Reich Quarterback Maryland 3 63 Hal Garner Linebacker Utah State 4 86 Andre Reed * † Wide receiver Kutztown State 4 112 Dale Hellestrae Offensive tackle Southern Methodist 5 130 Jimmy Teal Wide receiver Texas A&M 6 141 Mike Hamby Defensive end Utah State 7 169 Ron Pitts Defensive back UCLA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comebackkid Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 More than losing I think I hate the stupid penalties. This week was better than the opener but when every good run gets called back or there is a holding call on a punt it drives me nuts. Outside of that I realize we have little talent and a higher draft position helps more in the long run than a few wins. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CuddyDark Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 We have bigger questions than to be upset about the season. Questions like what is their plan and why is Beane GM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st Ammendment NoMas Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 I'm not happy with the Bills. It's not worth being upset about, although there were times during the game I went a little turrets on them. Mostly, this team is extremely disappointing. Even with all the changes, I would have believed the Bills would have a fire under their ass and be competitive. When you bring in a guy who walks out of the stadium at halftime, it shows the front office is a little delusional about "their process." How can you not see the signs coming? If they are bringing in less than "star" players who come with a lunch-pale, give it your all, kicks some ass attitude then they are not seeing something. There's a lot of lazy, uninspired football at OBD. If the defense suddenly "wakes up" and is in position to be successful with McD calling plays, why wasn't this happening from the beginning? Can't he tell during practice, OTA's, A YEAR OF GAMES, that Frazier is making the wrong calls and adjustments and players are out of place. Josh Allen inspires some hope, but the lack of talent around him is crippling, especially when serviceable vets are on the market. The only reasonable thought is that this is a tank and a throw away season and they want to draft top 3-5. But don't embarrass yourself doing it and become a national joke. The Bills get the punchlines while Arizona has shown less because it's the way we do things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 (edited) 33 minutes ago, PeterDude said: I'm not upset at the actual record, as I had them starting 0-4. What I am concerned about is the decision making PROCESS so far. McDermott being hired before Beane started the ball rolling in the wrong direction from the get go. I think McClappity will prove out to be a failure. I'd be interested to see what would happen if Beane was kept on board and allowed to hire a coach. IMO a lot of Beane's bad decisions in free agency and draft trade up's have a McDermott character before talent stink to them. pinned it. not concerned although I did think they would be more competitive then they have shown so far but as many are aware of, lack of talent leads to few wins. I'm leaning toward a 0-3 win team in 2018. Edited September 17, 2018 by no name Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 1 minute ago, Comebackkid said: More than losing I think I hate the stupid penalties. Now this is a legitimate beef. I agree, they could be playing better than this even with the overall level of talent. I think if McD takes over defensive playcalling, we'll see improvement on that side of the ball. Just now, CuddyDark said: We have bigger questions than to be upset about the season. Questions like what is their plan and why is Beane GM. They don't owe you an explanation of their plan. That's just unchecked ego on your part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Guapo Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 5 minutes ago, klos63 said: growing pains with a rebuild. Yes, I agree. This is the first time we’ve seen a complete tear it down and start fresh plan during the drought (yes, I know it ended last year). If if we have our quarterback, then I am ok with a bad season. I figured we would go 4-12 this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 Thru 1.5 games I was absolutely pissed. Don't care about the overall final record as long as the defense that played in the 2nd half continues to play and Allen continues to progress. The win or loss after that means nada to me, because knew this team was going to be bad. (however some of the roster moves are head scratching) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CuddyDark Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 1 minute ago, joesixpack said: Now this is a legitimate beef. I agree, they could be playing better than this even with the overall level of talent. I think if McD takes over defensive playcalling, we'll see improvement on that side of the ball. They don't owe you an explanation of their plan. That's just unchecked ego on your part. They owe everyone who buys their tickets an explanation. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comebackkid Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 Just now, joesixpack said: Now this is a legitimate beef. I agree, they could be playing better than this even with the overall level of talent. I think if McD takes over defensive playcalling, we'll see improvement on that side of the ball. I hope he does. A large part has to come from coaching and self discipline. Too many players don't look prepared and are forgetting basic fundamentals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damj Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 Not really. I'd Trust the Process more if the Process could make the team, block, get open and catch passes or make it through an entire game without retiring Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 1 minute ago, CuddyDark said: They owe everyone who buys their tickets an explanation. No, they absolutely !@#$ing do not. What a childish statement that is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stank_Nasty Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 i'm not all that mad about it. its not all that surprising.... i'm a little annoyed with how certain things have been handled leading up to it though. and I had assumed, after milking 9 wins out of a low talent team last year, that McDermott would have the team competing better than what they are now. so that's concerning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 Not upset so much at the record, but more at how they’ve looked getting there, especially on the D side of things. This defense, particularly the secondary, has regressed. That’s a bit concerning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in Chicago Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 49 minutes ago, Steptide said: I found myself not caring at all that we lost yesterday. I was actually more excited to see Josh Allen's potential. Listening to the post game and even reading posts here, it seems most fans wernt THAT upset about it. This is a true re building year. We don't have that much talent at key positions. While I still want this team to win and turn it around this season, I'm fully pre pared for a 3 or 4 win season. I was absolutely upset through the first 6 quarters of this season and felt somewhat better after that. But in particular, I have a growing sense of unease about McBeane's team building philosophy. Getting rid of several players in 2 years who could have helped is worrisome. We have a barely adequate roster of starters, let alone depth. This is not a good way to start their regimes. The "re-building" and getting "Players that fit and buy-in" sounds more like excuses. Has the collective fan base become so used to mediocrity that it doesnt get upset at what they have seen ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 Just now, Fan in Chicago said: Has the collective fan base become so used to mediocrity that it doesnt get upset at what they have seen ? Have you not been on the board the past two weeks? All it is is complaining. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 Nope. Expected it. Just now hoping that these guys building the team next year know what they are doing and Allen improves to our long needed franchise QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsMafia13 Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 48 minutes ago, 87168 said: I think it's less being 0-2, and more feeling as if the wheels have completely fallen off. This ^^ Im so fine with taking out medicine because I/we have all known next year is when the pieces are supposed to come together. But damn we turning in to a joke, a dumpster inferno hotter than any browns team (imo) through the first two weeks. Id be cool with 0-16 but if the point diff is 60 points every week how long are we supposed to remain loyal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 upset ?.....nah more like numb to the pain already looking ahead to next year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CuddyDark Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, joesixpack said: No, they absolutely !@#$ing do not. What a childish statement that is. Hope is childish. Trying to make it about someone not in control for board points is childish. Lets have a conversation. Stop dodging the questions for you're childish faith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockpile233 Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Fan in Chicago said: I was absolutely upset through the first 6 quarters of this season and felt somewhat better after that. But in particular, I have a growing sense of unease about McBeane's team building philosophy. Getting rid of several players in 2 years who could have helped is worrisome. We have a barely adequate roster of starters, let alone depth. This is not a good way to start their regimes. The "re-building" and getting "Players that fit and buy-in" sounds more like excuses. Has the collective fan base become so used to mediocrity that it doesnt get upset at what they have seen ? One thing I’ve found to be 100% certain is that, no matter what the Bills are doing, there will be plenty of rabid apologists ready to defend them every step of the way. It’s ok to be annoyed as a fan of this team. The defense was absolutely not supposed to regress like this. Edited September 17, 2018 by Rockpile233 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 Just now, CuddyDark said: Hope is childish. Trying to make it about someone not in control for board points is childish. Lets have a conversation. Stop dodging the questions for you're childish faith. I haven't dodged ****. I laid it out on the table. THIS IS THE BURNER YEAR. This is where they pay the piper for jettisoning Whaley's overpaid underachieving trash. This is the tank year that should have happened LAST year. I'm on record for all of these points. And yes, it's absolutely childish for you to think the Bills owe YOU anything. It's self-absorption at best, narcissism at worst. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 3 minutes ago, BillsMafia13 said: This ^^ Im so fine with taking out medicine because I/we have all known next year is when the pieces are supposed to come together. But damn we turning in to a joke, a dumpster inferno hotter than any browns team (imo) through the first two weeks. Id be cool with 0-16 but if the point diff is 60 points every week how long are we supposed to remain loyal. How can you say this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Gun Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 55 minutes ago, Steptide said: I found myself not caring at all that we lost yesterday. I was actually more excited to see Josh Allen's potential. Listening to the post game and even reading posts here, it seems most fans wernt THAT upset about it. This is a true re building year. We don't have that much talent at key positions. While I still want this team to win and turn it around this season, I'm fully pre pared for a 3 or 4 win season. Yes as there was no need for thiis. It's all been self inflicted. I dunno but alot of teams have been better and won Super Bowls after being a middling 8-8, 7-9 or 9-7 the year prior without having to blow the whole thing up. As a matter of fact I cant recall the last team that won a SB after a complete tear down and rebuild. Does that even work in the NFL? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vorpma Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 40 minutes ago, nucci said: amazing how so many just accept losing with the hope we may have a decent team in 3-4 years Try to grasp that this organization was run into the ground for over 16 years; unfortunately the NFL is the real world and not a SITCOM or reality TV where huge problems are fixed in less than one hour! And I throw a big red BS Flag that simply because many of us, who have been following this team since 1960 and been through good times, hard times and more importantly understand the organizational concept of rebuilding - accept losing. It's called adult reality world! Go ahead and talk smack now, but when this thing turns around go sit in a corner! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay_Fixit Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 I said going into the season that the playoff appearance gave this year a pass. I stand by it. It’s a rebuilding period and I’m ok with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CuddyDark Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 1 minute ago, joesixpack said: I haven't dodged ****. I laid it out on the table. THIS IS THE BURNER YEAR. This is where they pay the piper for jettisoning Whaley's overpaid underachieving trash. This is the tank year that should have happened LAST year. I'm on record for all of these points. And yes, it's absolutely childish for you to think the Bills owe YOU anything. It's self-absorption at best, narcissism at worst. If it's a burn year why sign Star to a big contract? Why sign Murphy to a starter contract? Why sign Davis to any contract? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnycage46 Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 57 minutes ago, Steptide said: I found myself not caring at all that we lost yesterday. I was actually more excited to see Josh Allen's potential. Listening to the post game and even reading posts here, it seems most fans wernt THAT upset about it. This is a true re building year. We don't have that much talent at key positions. While I still want this team to win and turn it around this season, I'm fully pre pared for a 3 or 4 win season. I was irritated during the game at some of the things that happened (just how BAD the D looked again (in the first half)) but I think at this point I'm in preseason mode with the team...I'm really just interested in seeing Allen get reps and for the team to start competing more. I think after the start they've had and the remaining schedule it is going to be a long season but I am excited to see if/how Allen develops the most. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 Just now, CuddyDark said: If it's a burn year why sign Star to a big contract? Why sign Murphy to a starter contract? Why sign Davis to any contract? Star hasn't been as awful as most of the scrubs around here make him out to be. Which Murphy? Davis was a body they were hoping would work out, it didn't. That happens. And, if I'm correct, they'll recoup most of his salary anyway. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juice_32 Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 I've accepted what this season is going to be. I am completely fine with it. In 2 years we'll be able to properly assess this regime. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steptide Posted September 17, 2018 Author Share Posted September 17, 2018 4 minutes ago, CuddyDark said: If it's a burn year why sign Star to a big contract? Why sign Murphy to a starter contract? Why sign Davis to any contract? I don't have any doubt this team is gonna try and win. I think I actually heard a hint of optimism in McDermott's voice yesterday when talking about Allen. They COULD still turn things around. It just all depends when this team starts to gel and when Allen settles in. Could be next week, could be week 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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