drf1835 Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 Tom Cousineau, as I feel he never wanted to play for Buffalo despite his words saying otherwise.To be fair, at that time though not many wanted to. . .... He was right though when he told Chuck Knox it was the wisest decision they ever made after they drafted him #1 overall in 1979, as after he jumped ship from Buffalo never playing a down for them, and after his CFL days they eventually traded Tommy not-so-terrific attitude for a #14 pick, which was for Jim Kelly. The rest is history. Four Super Bowls for Kelly, and a lackluster or less than steller career with the Browns for Cousineau, despite his early hype and high pay there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffAlone Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 4 minutes ago, Mickey said: I have some accidental footage from an overhead camera my spouse and I installed above our bed for "security purposes" which depicts me waking up from a nightmare, staring at the sky and shaking my fists while yelling in terror the words "McCargo! McCargo! McCargo!!!!" WHAAAAT??? OMG that would be amazing video to see! Lmao What a horrible draft that was? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 you guys are all young Richie Lucas https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richie_Lucas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 2 hours ago, Seanbillsfan2206 said: Gary Marangi His 35.3 completion percentage is the worst all-time completion in a season (minimum 200 attempts) Try factoring in completed passes to DBs on the OTHER team, see if that improves his numbers. As a friend always maintained, the best advice they could have given Marangi would have been "throw to Blount". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 Maybe Maybin can do a creative painting to express our still-lingering frustration Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 Considering where he was drafted and how little he contributed the winner has to be Maybust.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homey D. Clown Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 (edited) Seriously, it has to be Aaron Maybin. Even if there was another player close, he made a rap song about "Cravin" sacks. You have to be a first class, Grade A Delta Bravo to make a rap song about yourself.... For those of you scratching your heads over what a Delta Bravo is... Douche Bag. Edited July 9, 2018 by Homey D. Clown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soda Popinski Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 Maybin Mike Williams Eric Flowers McCargo All very high picks that were totally useless. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blacklabel Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 (edited) Can't argue guys like Maybin, Mike Williams, etc. Based on their hype and draft slot, they were pretty rough. I'm surprised most have already forgotten about Cyril Richardson. He was drafted as part of Marrone's OL overhaul to switch from guys that could move around to guys that were all 6'5" or more and tipped the scales at 345 lbs. Richardson was infuriating as he started, what, like 8 games in 2014 while a much more competent guard (Kraig Urbik) was on the sidelines. Richardson was just way to slow to keep up with NFL D-linemen. You could also throw Cyrus Kouandjio in there, he came in the same class as Richardson (as did Seantrel Henderson) and never lived up to the 2nd round pick used on him. Unlike Richardson, he actually did have a couple of games where he played half-way decent and he's still in the league (backup OL in Denver) whereas Richardson... I think he was with Houston for a hot minute (don't quote me) but his career is already done. Edited July 9, 2018 by blacklabel 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 No. The worst player was someone you've never heard of, who everyone you've listed in this thread beat for a final roster spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 1 hour ago, The Jerk said: Pretty much. I think a better title would be most disappointing player. I'll co-sign on Maybin. Also, Mark Anderson. Maybin and Mike Williams have to be on the short list. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US Egg Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 (edited) 9 hours ago, Dadonkadonk said: If you take the perspective of worst players that may have been ok but ultimately did not play up to potential or let the team down then: Darryl Talley Mark Kelso Jeff Wright Donte Whitner Anyone understand this "perspective" regarding these 4 players....besides the one who posted it ? I sure don't. ? Edited July 9, 2018 by I am the egg man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 1 hour ago, nucci said: you guys are all young Richie Lucas https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richie_Lucas That's good Bills football knowledge. And a truly bad pick. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pbomb Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 Reggie bush had quite the stat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 51 minutes ago, TakeYouToTasker said: No. The worst player was someone you've never heard of, who everyone you've listed in this thread beat for a final roster spot. True. Maybe a more interesting question is: Who is the worst Bills starter of all time? Or: Who was the worst Bills draft pick of all time? Many of the names offered - sadly enough - were starters and/or high draft picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wsam4031 Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 14 hours ago, JimKellyTryouts said: Aaron Maybin I second this one. He was healthy and played maybe 10 snaps in 2 years. None his first 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MILFHUNTER#518 Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 MIKE TOLBERT 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clyde Smith Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 Keith Ellison, Norwood and Tolbert lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatonka68 Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 It's a tie between, Arron Maybin & Mike (fatty) Williams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 As stated previously it depends on what you mean-worst compared to expectations or just worst on field? I would go Mike Williams for first(4th overall I believe) and Reggie Bush for latter(he literally was worse than just doing nothing) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KGun12TD Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 The guy we picked instead of Russel Wilson...He could run really fast but couldn't catch a ball if hi s life depended on it. I don't even remember his name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 Worst player? Not worst value? Worst player has to be Justin Rodgers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 Aaron Maybin has to be in serious consideration. He was a top 12 pick as a pass rushing specialist....didn't record a single sack. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JinxedBill1 Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 I'm 33 so Maybin and Hardy have to be my top 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justnzane Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 Willie Totten ... 87 scab QB Seriously, this probably is the right direction as those scab players were terrible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soda Popinski Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 20 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: Aaron Maybin has to be in serious consideration. He was a top 12 pick as a pass rushing specialist....didn't record a single sack. Trent Williams tossing him like a rag doll is one of my favorite clips 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Jabber Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 TJ Graham. Traded up in the third to grab him? What a waste! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 33 minutes ago, KGun12TD said: The guy we picked instead of Russel Wilson...He could run really fast but couldn't catch a ball if hi s life depended on it. I don't even remember his name. TJ Graham Rex picked him up as his secret weapon with the Jets. He was such a buffoon 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blacklabel Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, I am the egg man said: Anyone understand this "perspective" regarding these 4 players....besides the one who posted it ? I sure don't. ? I'm trying to make sense of it. Talley was a 2nd round pick and after a slow start to his career, he was a key part of the defense during the Super Bowl runs in the 90s. Made two Pro Bowls and was named first or second team All-Pro by several national sporting publications. Mark Kelso was a 10th round pick of the Eagles in '85, so, I'd say his career was moderately successful as he was likely seen as a guy lucky to make a practice squad. Played in 99 games and recorded 30 career interceptions. Also wore the famous double-bubble helmet while with the Bills. Jeff Wright was taken in the 8th round of the '88 draft. Averaged 4.5 sacks a year as part of the DL rotation. Primarily played nose tackle so, to average 4.5 sacks a year from that spot isn't too bad. And again, super late round pick and we all know late round picks that end up being productive players (or starters, and Wright started 67 out of 98 career games, excluding playoffs, in which he appeared in 16 of those) aren't too common so... wouldn't say he's anywhere near deserving to be on the list of All-Time Not Good Bills Players. Michael Huff, a safety picked by the Raiders one slot before Whitner, also had a very underwhelming career. And he was the consensus top-ranked safety that year, seen as one of the best defensive prospects available and generally looked at as a "can't miss" kinda player. Just looked at the 2006 draft and not one safety from that class had a standout career. In fact, 2006 overall was a pretty rough year for picks. The best players from that entire group: Mario Williams (for a few seasons of his career, including 2014 w/Bills), D'Brickashaw Ferguson, AJ Hawk (for a first round pick his career kinda screams 2nd/3rd round player), Vernon Davis, Haloti Ngata, and Nick Mangold. Those were the first round guys that, IMO, had first-round careers. Andrew Whitworth came out of that draft in round two, he's had a solid career. Jahri Evans was a fourth round guy who, for a time, was one of the top OGs in the league. Stephen Gostkowski was another fourth rounder who may actually go down as the best all-time Patrtiots kicker, yes, even over Vinatieri as Gostkowski's Pats' career is longer than his. Brandon Marshall and Elvis Dumervil were also fourth round choices from that class that have done well. And with the first pick in the fifth round, pick 134 overall, the Buffalo Bills select... Kyle Williams, defensive tackle, Louisiana State. While he's probably not a Hall of Famer, he's most certainly a Bills Wall of Famer and he's had a stellar career for a dude who was seen as a "high motor, good effort guy but ultimately too small to be anything more than a backup at the next level" (that kinda stuff was all over his scouting reports) kinda player. Drafted right after him was Rob Ninkovich, and while he was a douchey Pats player, he had a good career. After that, there are a few other players (like Delanie Walker) that had/are still having decent careers. And wow, I didn't realize how far off track I got but yeah, the '06 draft will not go down as a very good one. Donte Whitner... well, if he had been taken where he was projected (late first round) then there probably isn't too much to complain about. But, he went 8th overall in 2006 and while he put together an 11-year career (starting 152 out of 157 games), made two Pro Bowls later in his career (one with the 49ers in 2012, the other with the Browns in 2014), he only had 11 career interceptions. I always felt like the guy was way too focused on trying to land the big hit rather than playing the ball properly. An 11-year run with two Pro Bowls in the NFL ain't bad but you probably expect more from the #8 overall pick in 2006. Underwhelming as he was, still not one of the worst Bills ever. The OP said s/he named these players under the perspective of "not living up to their potential" which you can maybe apply to Whitner but it's not his fault he was over-drafted. Talley, for a second-round guy, had a solid career. Wright and Kelso, as late round picks, both had fairly solid careers so... I dunno, maybe the OP just doesn't like those guys. Maybe Donte Whitner stole his lunch money one time, I dunno. Edited July 9, 2018 by blacklabel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Bills Fan Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 15 hours ago, TigerJ said: Torell Troup Winner. Considering he was a high 2nd round pick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soda Popinski Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 1 minute ago, Canadian Bills Fan said: Winner. Considering he was a high 2nd round pick He was pushed back after a herniated disc in his back, which was just stupid. Had they done right by his rehab he may have been a solid player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProcessAccepted Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 15 hours ago, JimKellyTryouts said: Aaron Maybin This one is not even close. 11th pick in the draft, 2 seasons with the Bills and no bad injuries to hold him back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodneykm Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 53 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: Aaron Maybin has to be in serious consideration. He was a top 12 pick as a pass rushing specialist....didn't record a single sack. This is the one for me too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 2 hours ago, I am the egg man said: Anyone understand this "perspective" regarding these 4 players....besides the one who posted it ? I sure don't. ? Big head scratch from me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 48 minutes ago, Captain Hindsight said: TJ Graham Rex picked him up as his secret weapon with the Jets. He was such a buffoon Wrecks, Graham, or both? ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 2 hours ago, Commonsense said: Worst player? Not worst value? Worst player has to be Justin Rodgers. When the bills were thin at DB and played him, it was aweful. He was torched constantly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 Mike-Mayer missed a winning FG and was on his front lawn was punched in the face by a fan who said he lost a lot on that kick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 2 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said: Aaron Maybin has to be in serious consideration. He was a top 12 pick as a pass rushing specialist....didn't record a single sack. And could not get on the field even on Special Teams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 How about these 2 1st rounders from the 70's, Phil Dokes DT and Tom Ruud LB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KW95 - JA17 Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 Justin Rogers Leodis Mckelvin Mike Tolbert Rob Johnson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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