Zay Jones - 2018

[BillsfaninSB]

New to this forum.  I’m a lonely Bills fan in Santa Barbara. 

 

Im curious about everyone’s opinion of Zay Jones for the upcoming season.  I know he has nowhere to go but up, but will he blossom this year and make a major contribution?  I think a solid performance by him could go a long way to getting this offense to the middle of the pack. 

[Buffalo_Stampede]

He'll get every opportunity to break out. He's talented.

Edited May 7, 2018 by TheTruthHurts

[FearLess Price]

I bet he steps up. Less nerves less pressure in his 2nd year since he knows what being the NFL is like week to week. I bet hes been hittin the jug machine like crazy this off season... well except for thzt time he jumped out a  window or some sht

[purple haze]

I expect we will see a truer representation of his talents and that will be a huge help to the overall offense.

[cba fan]

If he buys a pair of those stickum like gloves that OBJ wears he will be great this year.

[CommonCents]

If I could give Zay one piece of advice I would tell him to run with his feet and not his arms. 

[Mike in Horseheads]

Welcome aboard!  I think Zay will become the guy they drafted, a go to guy this year.

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

7 minutes ago, purple haze said:

I expect we will see a truer representation of his talents and that will be a huge help to the overall offense.

 

 

...didn't he play with a torn labrum most of the season?.............

[MAJBobby]

I think they really Slowed Zays development down last year wantint him to learn All the WR positions. 

 

I think if they PICK one and let him stay there he will excel. 

[Da webster guy]

He didn't get as much separation as I had hoped he would last year, but he's a smart player, scored some TD's had some nice body control on the sideline throws.   I think he improves as a blocker for sure, with that shoulder back to 100%.   Zay seemed like the best receiver at the senior bowl against some top corners.

 

 I think it's likely that he's always going to drop balls, but less than his rookie year or he'll obviously be out of football.   I don't think it was some sort of complex mental condition, but many other people do.  Hope I'm wrong and the magic wand makes him catch everything this year.

 

I was yelling at the TV for them to grab Smith-Schuster last year, similar speed to Zay (4.5 range) but the kid got huge separation and seemed to play faster than Zay.   If Allen turns out to be good, Zay could climb the ladder with him.

 

 

[BuffaloTX]

16 minutes ago, wppete said:

Make or Brake year for Zay. Last year was not good at all for a 2nd round Pick. 

Neither was Eric Mould's first 2 years. He was a 1st round pick

 

[Skins Malone]

Athletes always say if your thinking about catching the ball your not going to.  I think that was Zays problem.  More mental then anything.  Alot of recievers get the drops.  He just needs to get his confidence up and just let his talent and body do the work..shut off the brain.  

Edited May 7, 2018 by Skins Malone

[TigerJ]

It's just about impossible to predict a player's future, but I'm buying into the explanation that his injury, though he played through it, had a significant negative impact on his productivity..  When he started the season, I also think he was pretty nervous, and that's why he had a lot of drops.  As the season continued the percentage of drops dropped, and he became more reliable.  I'm not predicting, but I'm hopeful that given all the changes (new QB, new OC and offensive system, being healthy and having a year of experience) will all be possitive factors for him and he will have a much more productive year.

[QBorBust2018]

BUST 

[Jauronimo]

44 minutes ago, Mike in Horseheads said:

Welcome aboard!  I think Zay will become the guy they drafted, a go to guy this year.

He showed signs of turning the corner until the knee injury.  He was making tough catches and getting open.  While he was hurt Deonte emerged and Zay never really challenged him for the spot.

[Hapless Bills Fan]

1 hour ago, BillsfaninSB said:

New to this forum.  I’m a lonely Bills fan in Santa Barbara. 

 

Im curious about everyone’s opinion of Zay Jones for the upcoming season.  I know he has nowhere to go but up, but will he blossom this year and make a major contribution?  I think a solid performance by him could go a long way to getting this offense to the middle of the pack. 

 

Welcome.

 

No way to tell, really.  One can hope that maybe the injury hampered him, but I would never have predicted his abysmal performance last year, so what do I know?

[Juice_32]

In a weird way I think his "episode" may help him. Nowhere to go but up. He was a 2nd round pick for a reason. I have faith in Zay! 

[Green Lightning]

17 minutes ago, BuffaloTX said:

Neither was Eric Mould's first 2 years. He was a 1st round pick

 

Exactly right. Many thought Moulds was a bust until he exploded in his third year. He was a beast. Different guy than Zay, but the kid will find his way.

[John from Riverside]

50 push ups for every dropped ball

[BillsfanAZ]

I think he will improve. He doesnt have Taylor throwing him the ball. Yes Zay dropped passes he should have caught but he also had a bunch of crap passes thrown his way. 

[Aussie Joe]

2 minutes ago, John from Riverside said:

50 push ups for every dropped ball

 

He will turn into the The Hulk..

[John from Riverside]

9 minutes ago, BillsfanAZ said:

I think he will improve. He doesnt have Taylor throwing him the ball. Yes Zay dropped passes he should have caught but he also had a bunch of crap passes thrown his way. 

This is such bs

 

Say what you want about TT.....but passes were hitting Zay IN THE HANDS

 

When that is supposed to be your forte in college dont B word about the QB when the football actually hits you in the hands.

[Teddy KGB]

Big year coming.      No more 60 yard games from the Qb position 

[BuffaloHokie13]

Need one of 2 things to happen.

1) He improves massively on his routes, which improves his separation.

2) He improves drastically at coming down with contested catches.

 

Last year he struggled with both, but I see no reason why he can't improve in either area this year.

[3rdand12]

1 hour ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said:

 

 

...didn't he play with a torn labrum most of the season?.............

theys does not explain his lack of running good routes and looking lost at times. It does explain how hard it was for him to stretch or reach for balls.

Different OC and Rec Coach might do them all some good.
But i would not bet a dime on Jones.

[3rdand12]

1 hour ago, BuffaloTX said:

Neither was Eric Mould's first 2 years. He was a 1st round pick

 

no, Zay was horrific. I have yet to see an upside since drafted. College ? Sure.

lets hope it clicks for him

cuz itz menatl

[aceman_16]

1 hour ago, BillsfaninSB said:

New to this forum.  I’m a lonely Bills fan in Santa Barbara. 

 

Im curious about everyone’s opinion of Zay Jones for the upcoming season.  I know he has nowhere to go but up, but will he blossom this year and make a major contribution?  I think a solid performance by him could go a long way to getting this offense to the middle of the pack. 

Welcome!  We are finally getting some nice weather in NY. I have heard from many places over the years that WRs make a nice jump into year two.  In Zay's case.... I pray it is a leap!

[Buffalo716]

Welcome ?

[Buffalo86]

Zay gets his best separation when he's running around butt naked.  I kid!  Would love to see him turn it around, but don't have the highest hopes. 

[Da webster guy]

1 hour ago, Green Lightning said:

Exactly right. Many thought Moulds was a bust until he exploded in his third year. He was a beast. Different guy than Zay, but the kid will find his way.

 

Marv didn't play Moulds much his first season.   Was a big believer in sitting rooks.

 

I remember he ran a kickoff back for a TD

[BillnutinHouston]

1 hour ago, John from Riverside said:

This is such bs

 

Say what you want about TT.....but passes were hitting Zay IN THE HANDS

 

When that is supposed to be your forte in college dont B word about the QB when the football actually hits you in the hands.

 

Like the pass in Carolina?

 

Zay will be fine. 

 

[BobChalmers]

2 hours ago, FearLess Price said:

I bet he steps up. Less nerves less pressure in his 2nd year since he knows what being the NFL is like week to week. I bet hes been hittin the jug machine like crazy this off season... well except for thzt time he jumped out a  window or some sht

 

I'm expecting he also will do much better with a QB throwing the ball a bit more consistently.  (I'm thinking Allen)

 

All those short throws to his toes and behind him probably weren't helping his confidence.

1 hour ago, John from Riverside said:

This is such bs

 

Say what you want about TT.....but passes were hitting Zay IN THE HANDS

 

When that is supposed to be your forte in college dont B word about the QB when the football actually hits you in the hands.

 

This is just too bizarre.  TT was almost never on target - usually behind, and often at the feet of his receivers.

 

Yeah - Zay lost his confidence after a few weeks of that.  So did the coaching staff - with Tyrod, a very mediocre QB who will likely never be a starter again in the NFL.

[FearLess Price]

1 minute ago, BobChalmers said:

 

I'm expecting he also will do much better with a QB throwing the ball a bit more consistently.  (I'm thinking Allen)

 

All those short throws to his toes and behind him probably weren't helping his confidence.

 

No it was dropping and mis playing more than 2 catches a game that NFL caliber receivers are expected to make, and then he would get outplayed almost every important 1 v 1 deep throw to him all season. He short comings are in him and him alone. Hes dropped so many that hit him right jn the hands hes gonna need a strong comeback season.

[Ed_Formerly_of_Roch]

1 hour ago, John from Riverside said:

This is such bs

 

Say what you want about TT.....but passes were hitting Zay IN THE HANDS

 

When that is supposed to be your forte in college dont B word about the QB when the football actually hits you in the hands.

 

Exactly how many did he drop that hit him in the hands?  Yes he did drop some thrown right at him, but TT did nothing to help him or any WR by often throwing passes that are hard to catch and just not throwing much to WR in general.  Lets put it this way playing with TT didn't help him any.

 

 

1 hour ago, 3rdand12 said:

no, Zay was horrific. I have yet to see an upside since drafted. College ? Sure.

lets hope it clicks for him

cuz itz menatl

 

Moulds 32 receptions for 342 0 TD

Jones 27receptions for 316 2 TD

 

Not much different between the two

Edited May 8, 2018 by Ed_Formerly_of_Roch

[BuffaloHokie13]

4 minutes ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said:

 

Exactly how many did he drop that hit him in the hands?  Yes he did drop some thrown right at him, but TT did nothing to help him or any WR by often throwing passes that are hard to catch and just not throwing much to WR in general.  Lets put it this way playing with TT didn't help him any.

https://youtu.be/u02tAt9Iv4g?t=66

 

Just one example, albeit hilarious.

[Augie]

I hope he remembers to wear clothes! 

 

Other than that, I’ve been consistent in saying I think he has a nice bounce back year. It might be tough to have a big stat year, given our questionable OLine and unknown QB, but run solid routes, get open and catch what you can touch. 

[John from Riverside]

37 minutes ago, BobChalmers said:

 

I'm expecting he also will do much better with a QB throwing the ball a bit more consistently.  (I'm thinking Allen)

 

All those short throws to his toes and behind him probably weren't helping his confidence.

 

This is just too bizarre.  TT was almost never on target - usually behind, and often at the feet of his receivers.

 

Yeah - Zay lost his confidence after a few weeks of that.  So did the coaching staff - with Tyrod, a very mediocre QB who will likely never be a starter again in the NFL.

Don’t look now but he is starting for another team

 

the revisionist history is stupid like zay was not dropping catchable balls because of who was throwing it

 

 

[3rdand12]

45 minutes ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said:

 

Exactly how many did he drop that hit him in the hands?  Yes he did drop some thrown right at him, but TT did nothing to help him or any WR by often throwing passes that are hard to catch and just not throwing much to WR in general.  Lets put it this way playing with TT didn't help him any.

 

 

 

Moulds 32 receptions for 342 0 TD

Jones 27receptions for 316 2 TD

 

Not much different between the two

stats are not always the tell all.
 and the offseason thing ? well, i remain  a skeptic. BTW i was very excited when they drafted him.
 

I am sure we both watched all the games. Tyrod was of course Tyrod. But some of those drops and confused hands and feet were certainly not on Taylor.
 Moulds never looked that bad. He just did not look that good yet.
 

Do not like the comparison so many turn to Ed. I get your point though

[JerseyBills]

Biggest wild card on team. We're going to need him to earn his investment we took. Remember, we traded up for him . He showed glimpses, rarely, but you can see the potential if he can find the consistentcy.

He steps up and suddenly that WR group isn't too shabby...

[DriveFor1Outta5]

6 minutes ago, 3rdand12 said:

stats are not always the tell all.
 and the offseason thing ? well, i remain  a skeptic. BTW i was very excited when they drafted him.
 

I am sure we both watched all the games. Tyrod was of course Tyrod. But some of those drops and confused hands and feet were certainly not on Taylor.
 Moulds never looked that bad. He just did not look that good yet.
 

Do not like the comparison so many turn to Ed. I get your point though

I tend to agree. Many receivers are slow too develop without looking downright horrific in their rookie season. It’s difficult for me to have a positive perception of someone who looked as bad as Zay in his rookie season. Hopefully I’m wrong, and Zay becomes a reliable receiver for years to come. It’s just not my expectation as this point. 

54 minutes ago, Augie said:

I hope he remembers to wear clothes! 

 

Other than that, I’ve been consistent in saying I think he has a nice bounce back year. It might be tough to have a big stat year, given our questionable OLine and unknown QB, but run solid routes, get open and catch what you can touch. 

Let’s hope he doesn’t. He ran a far more precise route without them. Compare the “fight for Jesus route” with the Carolina drop route.  On one route he’s clumsily tripping over his feet, while he runs like a fine tuned athlete on the other.