njbuff Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 6 minutes ago, Rebel101 said: We gave away an opportunity to build a deep solid roster and to give away so much for a QB who I believe was the 7th or 8th rated QB in this draft was a huge mistake. The trade up for Edmunds would have been a great move if we didnt already give away both 2nds for Allen. I would have preferred us to stay put and still would have probably been able to get Allen but I'd rather have had Rosen. Hands down the best passer in this draft. But i would have wanted us to use all the picks to build a savage squad and gave away the farm next year for a QB and gave mccarron a chance to prove himself n just to build a team that was a QB away from greatness. I hope Allen develops into a Super Bowl QB but if he doesnt this draft will go down as a huge franchise failure and will set us back for years compared to what we could have done with the arsenal of picks we had Quit posting. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heitz Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 2 minutes ago, rafter said: Who has Allen rated 7th or 8th QB? The OP did - and really, that's all that matters to the OP. LAMP 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark92 Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 I will admit I wanted Rosen. I drank the cool aid and learned to love his cockiness. As Goodell was saying Josh Allen my stomach sank. Not who I would have picked after my countless hours of watching you tube scouting videos, listening to NFL Network and ESPN experts plus watching them all play in college for a couple years. I had them ranked Darnold, Rosen, Mayfield, Allen and Jackson. I told myself any of the top 3 would be Great. Darnold was never really a possibility so Rosen was my guy. As the seconds after the pick turned into minutes I found myself not only being ok with Allen but realizing that I under valued him. The kid has a rocket for an arm and can move out of the pocket. Something Allen can not do. Yes he has accuracy issues, yes that's a big issue. So is concussions with Allen, fumbles with Darnold, Mayfield is short and Jackson might be better at WR. They all have issues. I think he is the PERFECT QB for the Bills. He is a farmers son, looks like a QB and can through the ball a mile. Scouts say when the ball leaves his hand it has a sound to it that you don't hear that often......aka Favre, Elway. Do I think he is them? Hell no. But I do like his upside and for the first time in years I have hope at the QB position. Welcome to Buffalo Josh Allen, I hope you prove all the haters wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 2 minutes ago, Wayne Arnold said: I'll stop judging when they stop making stupid decisions. Haven't seen you in the Edmunds thread. Does that mean you liked the pick? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebel101 Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 3 minutes ago, SCBills said: Since Adam Shefter confirmed that the Cardinals were trying to trade for Josh Allen and then settled on trading up to 10 for Rosen after we got him, I’d say your premise doesn’t work. Also, next years QB class is not very good so there’s that. Ok so we sit still until the cardinals trade up for Allen and then move up to take Rosen we get a better and player give up less...how you figure that doesnt work. Ok so we sit still until the cardinals trade up for Allen and then move up to take Rosen we get a better and player give up less...how you figure that doesnt work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lfod Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 (edited) Well Beane made the pick understanding that he would be on damage control right away. He also made the pick knowing a bunch of fans would cry over it. At least he made the choice he felt was right and not the easy one. I'd pump the brakes a little but if you wanna set your hair on fire and run around in circles then do it. Thanks for another I don't like Josh Allen post with nothing new to add to the pile. Edited April 28, 2018 by Lfod Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mead107 Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 Newbie. Could have put this in any of the othe 200 Allen threads ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zebrastripes Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 Just now, Rebel101 said: Ok so we sit still until the cardinals trade up for Allen and then move up to take Rosen we get a better and player give up less...how you figure that doesnt work. Just stop. Beane knew who he wanted and went and got him. He didn't want to settle for someone's sloppy seconds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebel101 Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 Everyone really thinks giving up so much for Allen was a good idea? I think you've been drinking to much bleach Sloppy seconds? Rosen is hands down the best passer in the draft. Have any of you even watched an Allen game he is a mess 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Arnold Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 2 minutes ago, HappyDays said: Haven't seen you in the Edmunds thread. Does that mean you liked the pick? Obviously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaoulDuke79 Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 7 minutes ago, Rebel101 said: We gave away an opportunity to build a deep solid roster and to give away so much for a QB who I believe was the 7th or 8th rated QB in this draft was a huge mistake. The trade up for Edmunds would have been a great move if we didnt already give away both 2nds for Allen. I would have preferred us to stay put and still would have probably been able to get Allen but I'd rather have had Rosen. Hands down the best passer in this draft. But i would have wanted us to use all the picks to build a savage squad and gave away the farm next year for a QB and gave mccarron a chance to prove himself n just to build a team that was a QB away from greatness. I hope Allen develops into a Super Bowl QB but if he doesnt this draft will go down as a huge franchise failure and will set us back for years compared to what we could have done with the arsenal of picks we had Time will tell.....this is why i hate the 3 months leading up to the draft with everyones worthless mock drafts and the 3 months after with arm chair GM's saying what we should have done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skins Malone Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 I would love to see how posters like this would have reacted to the Jim Kelly pick. You know the guy who wouldnt even play here until we made him the highest paid player in history. The point is you never know what is going to happen. And obviously this is nothing againt Jim Kelly just saying we picked a guy who refused to play here that became the best QB we ever had. You have to wait and see what happens. Are you saying you wouldnt be beside yourself if we drafted a QB and then said QB refused to play here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lfod Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 1 minute ago, Rebel101 said: Everyone really thinks giving up so much for Allen was a good idea? I think you've been drinking to much bleach Nothing wrong with the take. Just after so many repetitive post it gets redundant. We know a lot of people didn't like the pick. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crowing Rooster Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 1 minute ago, Rebel101 said: Everyone really thinks giving up so much for Allen was a good idea? I think you've been drinking to much bleach Just go away! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebel101 Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 I hope he works out. He could end up being great I just think we overpaid but if he becomes great then it was worth it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Gun Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 3 minutes ago, Rebel101 said: Everyone really thinks giving up so much for Allen was a good idea? I think you've been drinking to much bleach Sloppy seconds? Rosen is hands down the best passer in the draft. Have any of you even watched an Allen game he is a mess Hard to be the best passer when you are sitting on the sideline broken like a china doll. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 4 minutes ago, Rebel101 said: Everyone really thinks giving up so much for Allen was a good idea? I think you've been drinking to much bleach Sloppy seconds? Rosen is hands down the best passer in the draft. Have any of you even watched an Allen game he is a mess Then why was Rosen the 4th QB taken? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 The Jets gave up more to move up just 3 spots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lfod Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 Just now, Rebel101 said: I hope he works out. He could end up being great I just think we overpaid but if he becomes great then it was worth it Honestly go check out some post pick interviews with him. Then look at Rosen's feeling entilted to be picked higher attitude. I'm warming up to the fact we picked him now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenigmusx Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 4 minutes ago, Rebel101 said: Everyone really thinks giving up so much for Allen was a good idea? I think you've been drinking to much bleach Sloppy seconds? Rosen is hands down the best passer in the draft. Have any of you even watched an Allen game he is a mess He was lights out in Wyomings Bowl game and even better in the senior bowl. He has maybe the best arm ever. He will be fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Rebel101 said: I hope he works out. He could end up being great I just think we overpaid but if he becomes great then it was worth it Just for the record............. If Allen turns out to be great, no one will give a flying **** what the Bills gave up. NO ONE. Edited April 28, 2018 by Nervous Guy 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comebackkid Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 13 minutes ago, Seanbillsfan2206 said: Time to go drink bleach Tide has those snack pod things now 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeF Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Rebel101 said: I hope he works out. He could end up being great I just think we overpaid but if he becomes great then it was worth it Welcome to the board. Thanks for expressing your opinion. Before starting a new thread, it's a good practice to search the existing threads and see if your post might fit in an existing thread. Starting a new thread is really the last resort. For example, this post may have fit in the "Josh Allen draft pick thread"; the "Would Allen Have been there at 12" thread and a few others on the front page. It keeps the board more orderly and really reserves new threads for "breaking news" or "very unique perspectives". Again welcome. Good to have you on board. Are you an Ole Miss fan or just a rebel? Edited April 28, 2018 by JoeF 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing Bong Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 I thought we did phenomenal with the trade up. Kept our first! Wanted Rosen but wtf do I know about pro scouting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comebackkid Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 One thing interesting is that both players have been referred to as a player there physically hasnt been an equal to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
napmaster Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 4 minutes ago, Rebel101 said: Rosen is hands down the best passer in the draft. Then why didn't he go #1? Maybe Beane asked him why none of his teammates went to his 21st birthday party. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quinnearlysghost88 Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 how's building a deep roster without a QB worked for us the last 20 years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 There really should be a # of posts requirement before you can start a thread. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 You're a day late and an original thought short. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 8 minutes ago, Doc said: The Jets gave up more to move up just 3 spots. And the guy they took may end up 3rd in their depth chart (probably 2nd though). Unless they plan o just throwing away the 2 guys they just signed in FA a few weeks ago before they made the trade up to get a QB...... 2 minutes ago, quinnearlysghost88 said: how's building a deep roster without a QB worked for us the last 20 years? Prior to making the pick no one here cared about building the roster, you had to give up everything to get one of the Franchise QBs in the draft. Now they pick Allen and those same people are crying cause they have up 2 of the picks for a franchise qb, just not the one their expert opinion seemed to be the right guy.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iamkrgr Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 Its taken me over 24 hours to process the pick. Still not a fan. Having a really hard time getting over the numbers he put last season at Wyoming. This one is tough to take, i think we could've had him at 12 without giving up the 2nd rounders. I don't believe that the Cardinals wanted Allen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPS Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 30 minutes ago, Nervous Guy said: Maybe he doesn't like singing Ol McDonald... I was trying to give you the Lombardi and the laughing face, but it wouldn't let me... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pbomb Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 8 minutes ago, quinnearlysghost88 said: how's building a deep roster without a QB worked for us the last 20 years? But this time would work for sure 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing Bong Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 8 minutes ago, B-Man said: There really should be a # of posts requirement before you can start a thread. not cool. I say rep points to post ratio.. I mean.. look at me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsbackto81 Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 I like the precision in Rosens' game. Very fluid and his ball placement is pretty. But,........ He is 2 or 3 concussions from a second career in tennis. Considering how the NFL treats possible concussions with the new protocol he might not make it to year 3. He'll be going up against the Rams, Hawks and Niners defenses twice a year. God bless him. Allen is a brick of a man and is suited for NFL punishment and Western New York. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing Bong Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 12 minutes ago, napmaster said: Then why didn't he go #1? Maybe Beane asked him why none of his teammates went to his 21st birthday party. lol why didn't Rodgers or Marino go first Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heitz Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 27 minutes ago, Mark92 said: IHe is a farmers son, looks like a QB and can through the ball a mile. Did someone say through the ball a mile!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 35 minutes ago, Rebel101 said: We gave away an opportunity to build a deep solid roster and to give away so much for a QB who I believe was the 7th or 8th rated QB in this draft was a huge mistake. The trade up for Edmunds would have been a great move if we didnt already give away both 2nds for Allen. I would have preferred us to stay put and still would have probably been able to get Allen but I'd rather have had Rosen. Hands down the best passer in this draft. But i would have wanted us to use all the picks to build a savage squad and gave away the farm next year for a QB and gave mccarron a chance to prove himself n just to build a team that was a QB away from greatness. I hope Allen develops into a Super Bowl QB but if he doesnt this draft will go down as a huge franchise failure and will set us back for years compared to what we could have done with the arsenal of picks we had I can tell why they call you Rebel, Rebel101. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iamkrgr Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 Just now, ScottLaw said: Regardless of your opinion on Allen, you can't sit on your hands and hope one of those guys falls to you. The Bills did what they needed to do in getting the guy they liked. I agree. Besides them moving up(which i'm ok with), i feel as though this pick was heavily influenced by Pegula. That doesn't sit right with me to be honest. We'll probably never know the truth but ownership meddling in football decisions is the worst. As a Bills fan i will support Allen. Its a bitter pill to swallow until proven otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 Just now, Buffalo Ballin said: What? Please be more coherent. I'm going to disagree anyway. Beane panicked. Allen was going to be there at 12 without trading. A failure in my mind. He made up for that though with Tremaine Edmunds. Tremaine, if he can remain durable, might be a Hall of Famer. They said on NFL network that Adam Schefter (who is the most reliable insider in the business) said the Arizona Cardinals were trying to read eup to #7 to draft Josh Allen, so the Bills had to beat their offer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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