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Stop crying. Allen can defend himself, He's in the big boys league now. Sheesh.

 

Crying?  You made an accusation.  I disagree with your accusation.  Sorry if you see that as "crying". 

 

You're right, he is a big boy with a rocket arm.  I love the pick.  Best arm in the draft.  Let's hope he becomes a great one for us.  

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This is a mistake. It will bring down this regime. You can mark this post and you can quote it back to me any time you like in the future if I am wrong.    I won't be. 

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19 hours ago, KD in CA said:

Oh boy....I hope they are right.   Was really hoping for Rosen there.

 

 

Edit:  In the light of day, I'm more and more ok here.  Rosen wasn't going to be happy in Buffalo and Allen wants to be here.  It's fully in keeping with what they've done thus far in terms of getting/keeping guys who are fully bought in and shedding guys who aren't.

Jim Kelly wasnt gonna be happy in Buffalo either. Thankfully we still drafted him. 

 

Btw there was that report yesterday that Rosen said he would love to play in Buffalo but i guess that doesn't matter to u.

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7 minutes ago, ThunderingHerd said:

 

Crying?  You made an accusation.  I disagree with your accusation.  Sorry if you see that as "crying". 

 

You're right, he is a big boy with a rocket arm.  I love the pick.  Best arm in the draft.  Let's hope he becomes a great one for us.  

It's not an accusation when he actually tweeted it for everyone to see; clear as day here. It's ok to take him, but my problem is that Beane gave up a lot to get him. He didn't have to. He panicked. Could have drafted him without trading anything. Best arm in the draft? No. That belongs to Baker Mayfield. Strong arm doesn't mean much when he's inaccurate.

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1 minute ago, Buffalo Ballin said:

It's not an accusation when he actually tweeted it for everyone to see; clear as day here. It's ok to take him, but my problem is that Beane gave up a lot to get him. He didn't have to. He panicked. Could have drafted him without trading anything. Best arm in the draft? No. That belongs to Baker Mayfield. Strong arm doesn't mean much when he's inaccurate.

He tweeted a quote from a popular sitcom that he thought was funny and some lyrics from a rap song that was popular. Get over it.

 

The rest of your post is hogwash anyway.

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It's not an accusation when he actually tweeted it for everyone to see; clear as day here. It's ok to take him, but my problem is that Beane gave up a lot to get him. He didn't have to. He panicked. Could have drafted him without trading anything. Best arm in the draft? No. That belongs to Baker Mayfield. Strong arm doesn't mean much when he's inaccurate.

 

Again, the kid was 14 when that happened, he's apologized and that's good enough for me, people make mistakes, especially when they're not grown.  But you hold onto it if you want, free country.

 

I liked Mayfield, I'm glad he didn't get to the Jets, actually.  But I like the Allen pick.  I actually thought the opposite of you.  I thought Beane did a great job of keeping our other first so we can get our stud linebacker.  Oh well, I guess we have different lenses, enjoy the rest of the draft and go Bills.

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Beane didn't panic, he exercised patience. Allen wouldn't have made it to 12, though Rosen may have. Allen certainly has the best arm in the draft, though Rosen is the best passer in the draft. There is a difference.

 

What? Please be more coherent. I'm going to disagree anyway. Beane panicked. Allen was going to be there at 12 without trading. A failure in my mind. He made up for that though with Tremaine Edmunds. Tremaine, if he can remain durable, might be a Hall of Famer.

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What? Please be more coherent. I'm going to disagree anyway. Beane panicked. Allen was going to be there at 12 without trading. A failure in my mind. He made up for that though with Tremaine Edmunds. Tremaine, if he can remain durable, might be a Hall of Famer.

 

I love that pick.  Kid's only 19...as you said, if he stays healthy through his career, he can be a good one for us for a long time.  He's definitely got the "Buffalo DNA", I just see it in his eyes.

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24 hours later, every vid I could find, numerous articles and a sad attempt at a work day, I can say that I am very happy with the Josh Allen pick. Rosen is too outspoken and abrasive at times for our new culture, no way he would've been the pick unless it was out of necessity. Mayfield was a surprise at 1 and we never had a shot at Darnold. Josh Allen has made an insane amount of progress since the senior bowl (which he looked terrific in). He is by far the most physically gifted QB in a draft full of potential starters. This will all come down to continued progress and coaching. He seems very motivated to prove to everyone he is legit, rising above the constant doubt and if this occurs, we may be seeing something incredible. Not just a franchise QB but a leader that can do things on a football field no other QB in the league has the ability to do. That's the type of ceiling Allen possesses AND we kept our other pick in the first.

Then used it for another player with this type of potential on our defense with Tremaine?! ?

I can't wait to see what they do next. This teams turn around will happen quicker than we think.

So happy to be a Bills fan today.

 

Lets enjoy this for once.. we're not a joke anymore.

TY McBeane ?

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10 hours ago, Wayne Arnold said:

 

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If you hate the team what are you doing here. You're , of course, much wiser than the rest of us. So easy to sit in your arm chair judging people actually making decisions.

 

 

 

 

 

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16 minutes ago, Buffalo Ballin said:

 

What? Please be more coherent. I'm going to disagree anyway. Beane panicked. Allen was going to be there at 12 without trading. A failure in my mind. He made up for that though with Tremaine Edmunds. Tremaine, if he can remain durable, might be a Hall of Famer.

 

Idiotic to declare something as fact you have zero basis for knowing.   Clearly you are not familiar with the concept of risk management.

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3 minutes ago, Eric Moulds on my A** said:

24 hours later, every vid I could find, numerous articles and a sad attempt at a work day, I can say that I am very happy with the Josh Allen pick. Rosen is too outspoken and abrasive at times for our new culture, no way he would've been the pick unless it was out of necessity. Mayfield was a surprise at 1 and we never had a shot at Darnold. Josh Allen has made an insane amount of progress since the senior bowl (which he looked terrific in). He is by far the most physically gifted QB in a draft full of potential starters. This will all come down to continued progress and coaching. He seems very motivated to prove to everyone he is legit, rising above the constant doubt and if this occurs, we may be seeing something incredible. Not just a franchise QB but a leader that can do things on a football field no other QB in the league has the ability to do. That's the type of ceiling Allen possesses AND we kept our other pick in the first.

Then used it for another player with this type of potential on our defense with Tremaine?! ?

I can't wait to see what they do next. This teams turn around will happen quicker than we think.

So happy to be a Bills fan today.

 

Lets enjoy this for once.. we're not a joke anymore.

TY McBeane ?

 

Haha, I was fairly useless at work today too....I was super happy last night and I'm surprised (not really I guess) at all this internet negativity.  Oh well, not sad things shook out the way they did.  Go Bills...let's get some help on the Oline today!

 

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when is his presser?

Just had it.

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6 hours ago, Wayne Arnold said:

 

It's a good thing we have three picks between 53 and 65. We could take two wide receivers plus patch up another hole.

 

Wait...oh...

Welp I liked trading up for the LB. I don't recall what we gave up for that tho.

 

Get Dez??:unsure:

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10 minutes ago, PetermanThrew5Picks said:

Welp I liked trading up for the LB. I don't recall what we gave up for that tho.

 

Get Dez??:unsure:

For what Dez is going to want I'd have to pass. I will say this, if he wants a 1 year prove it deal that's fine. But idk if he can prove it. He hasn't in some time.

I wish we had snagged MARTAVIS Bryant. What a nasty WR threesome over there in LV. Cooper, Nelson and Bryant. That may be tops in the league if Cooper bounces back.

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40 minutes ago, KD in CA said:

 

Idiotic to declare something as fact you have zero basis for knowing.   Clearly you are not familiar with the concept of risk management.

You don't either. There is some in this thread said that Beane practiced patience, but he traded away 3 picks for him. If he did practice patience, he would have gotten Allen at number 12 without trading anything. Think about it. John Elway passed on Allen. Giants passed on him. So did Browns and Jets. Chicago wasn't looking for a QB. So did the Niners. The only team to ruin this was the Cardinals. Maybe.

 

I hope Allen becomes anything near Jim Kelly/Cam Newton.

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3 minutes ago, SCBills said:

Fwiw, Mel Kiper opened the Draft tonight by praising Buffalo for their moves last night and called Josh Allen a “once every 10-15 year talent at QB”. 

Won another offseason!!!

 

Guy said he played sports to avoid farm choirs.... questionable work ethic lol

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4 minutes ago, SCBills said:

Fwiw, Mel Kiper opened the Draft tonight by praising Buffalo for their moves last night and called Josh Allen a “once every 10-15 year talent at QB”. 

Mel Kiper's opinion doesn't mean anything. He's been wrong, too. His stance on Jimmy Clausen and Johnny Manziel was delusional.

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7 minutes ago, Buffalo Ballin said:

Mel Kiper's opinion doesn't mean anything. He's been wrong, too. His stance on Jimmy Clausen and Johnny Manziel was delusional.

His opinion doesn't mean much, but neither does the plethora of bellyaching fans hating the pick determine whether or not Allen succeeds.

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27 minutes ago, Buffalo Ballin said:

Mel Kiper's opinion doesn't mean anything. He's been wrong, too. His stance on Jimmy Clausen and Johnny Manziel was delusional.

You show me someone who has never been wrong in projecting college players to the NFL, and I'll show you someone who has never offered an opinion on college players entering the NFL.

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55 minutes ago, Eric Moulds on my A** said:

For what Dez is going to want I'd have to pass. I will say this, if he wants a 1 year prove it deal that's fine. But idk if he can prove it. He hasn't in some time.

I wish we had snagged MARTAVIS Bryant. What a nasty WR threesome over there in LV. Cooper, Nelson and Bryant. That may be tops in the league if Cooper bounces back.

I thought I heard Dez saying he wanted a 1 year prove it at like 3m to parlay to a final better contract. 

 

He can run like 2 routes but he might be eyeballing Allen's arm as a way to resurrect his career.

 

Don't get me started, I wanted martavis, I really wanted Terrell Pryor!

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41 minutes ago, Buffalo Ballin said:

You don't either. There is some in this thread said that Beane practiced patience, but he traded away 3 picks for him. If he did practice patience, he would have gotten Allen at number 12 without trading anything. Think about it. John Elway passed on Allen. Giants passed on him. So did Browns and Jets. Chicago wasn't looking for a QB. So did the Niners. The only team to ruin this was the Cardinals. Maybe.

 

I hope Allen becomes anything near Jim Kelly/Cam Newton.

 

I think this is misleading.  Giants didn't "pass on him" any more than they passed on Darnold - they wanted Barkely.  Same with Broncos - wanting Chubb is not passing Allen.  Browns at 1 and Jets at 3 passed on Allen.  However, Bills at 7, in addition to Browns and Jets, passed on Rosen who went 10.  If the guy we didn't want went 10, it is reasonable for us to have believed the player our scouts liked better wouldn't last until 12. I think Allen should have went 1 or 2. 

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7 hours ago, Figster said:

I can't argue with Buffalo being in a bit of a rebuild mode.

 

Myself personally though, I love the fit.

 

A J McCarron is a good QB and should fill in nicely through the growing pains in my humble opinion jrober38

This is a pick for the long-term.  They didn’t make this pick being unaware that Rosen will be better than Allen in 2018 and maybe 2019.  They obviously felt that in the long run Allen has a chance to be very good.  They know that there will be a significant learning curve, but are betting on a big payoff over his, hopefully long and successful career.

 

His size, arm and athleticism are what they are betting on - just like the Ravens are with Lamar Jackson. 

 

Are they right?  None of us will know for at least 2-3 years.

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After thinking about it I realize Beane made the difficult choice. The easy choice would of been Josh Rosen but he went with what he felt was the better choice.

 

He made that pick knowing he would be questioned about it. He made that pick knowing the fans would be upset. He made that pick knowing that himself and Josh Allen would be on damage control. That speaks volumes to me. I don't know what the outcome will be but at least I feel like Beane felt that strongly about it. I respect that. 

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We gave away an opportunity to build a deep solid roster and to give away so much for a QB who I believe was the 7th or 8th rated QB in this draft was a huge mistake. The trade up for Edmunds would have been a great move if we didnt already give away both 2nds for Allen. I would have preferred us to stay put and still would have probably been able to get Allen but I'd rather have had Rosen. Hands down the best passer in this draft. But i would have wanted us to use all the picks to build a savage squad and gave away the farm next year for a QB and gave mccarron a chance to prove himself n just to build a team that was a QB away from greatness. I hope Allen develops into a Super Bowl QB but if he doesnt this draft will go down as a huge franchise failure and will set us back for years compared to what we could have done with the arsenal of picks we had

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2 hours ago, ThunderingHerd said:

I got it on Facebook, here ya go bud:

 

 

 

Good stuff - both impressive young men.  This is the first time I've seen Allen speak, definitely going to be rooting for him.  Sounds like a hard worker that's going to put his all into it, that's encouraging.  Rooting for Edmunds too, he really seems to have a good head on his shoulders. and a strong support system.

 

Welcome to the team boys - Let's Go Buffalo!!

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Since Adam Shefter confirmed that the Cardinals were trying to trade for Josh Allen and then settled on trading up to 10 for Rosen after we got him, I’d say your premise doesn’t work.  

 

Also, next years QB class is not very good so there’s that.  

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4 minutes ago, Rebel101 said:

We gave away an opportunity to build a deep solid roster and to give away so much for a QB who I believe was the 7th or 8th rated QB in this draft was a huge mistake. The trade up for Edmunds would have been a great move if we didnt already give away both 2nds for Allen. I would have preferred us to stay put and still would have probably been able to get Allen but I'd rather have had Rosen. Hands down the best passer in this draft. But i would have wanted us to use all the picks to build a savage squad and gave away the farm next year for a QB and gave mccarron a chance to prove himself n just to build a team that was a QB away from greatness. I hope Allen develops into a Super Bowl QB but if he doesnt this draft will go down as a huge franchise failure and will set us back for years compared to what we could have done with the arsenal of picks we had

Funny post.  

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