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If Bradford stays healthy he'd likely win a camp competition and play well enough to give the rookie a year to acclimate (like KC did this year). If he gets hurt then you still have the future of the franchise stepping in to take his place. Add in the fact that he'd likely be on a cheep "prove you can do it" contract and hes a perfect fit for a team that is clearly walking away from the draft  with a top level rookie QB. Worst case scenario, rookie starts early in the season, best case scenario Bradford plays well and is a valuable trade commodity next year. That is win- win. 

 

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9 minutes ago, Shaw66 said:

Problem is with Bradford theres a good chance your rookie playing on day 2. 

With any QB in free agency that's a virtual guarantee. Unless you sign Kirk Cousins or Case Keenum, if we move up to 3 and take Darnold/Rosen/Mayfield like many suspect us to do, the rookie will start right away.

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2 minutes ago, xRUSHx said:

IMO the rest of the league will laugh if they take Allen at 12 knowing he is late 1st early second round pick at best IMO. A team would have to be nuts to jump higher to take him. Any QB taken in the top 15 should be a first year starter not a bench warmer.

Were people laughing at KC this year? 

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3 minutes ago, Batman1876 said:

Were people laughing at KC this year? 

Mahomes is 10xs the QB Allen will ever be IMO.

 

I get they sat him but they had the luxury of Smith on the roster so he was lucky to sit otherwise a pick that high should play.

IMO KC reached a little too much, could have got him later.

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12 minutes ago, Domdab99 said:

 

I really doubt the FO if they're doing all this scouting and interviewing and viewing film...and then they decide Josh Allen should be the pick at #3. Not Darnold or Rosen or Mayfield. 

could just be another smokescreen,

 

 

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7 minutes ago, BillsFan17 said:

I'd think so, Bradford is one FA QB who can be seen as a legit starter. So the things I take into account 

 

Everyone see the Bills moving up and knows they are most likely moving up again for a QB... If you are a FA QB you aren't signing with Buffalo with the impression you are the long term solution.

 

Therefore, if you are Bradford why sign with Buffalo if you don't think you are in that stage of your career? 

 

Because the Bills all but tell you the rookie won't push for playing time in year one and maybe not even in year two.

 

The only QB that would give that kind of assurance would be Allen as he's the least pro ready.

 

For me, if we are going after Darnold or Rosen, you go for a Moore or Anderson or Daniels or McCown. Guys who can start in a pinch but are more mentor/vet savvy backups.

 

 

hummmm.....I think if we want a multi-year bench warmer I'd go for Mike White or L. Falk over Allen.   Then use our 1st round picks to solidify the D.  

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Josh Allen has work to do before he's ready to start.  The question is, if Sam Bradford were to sign with Buffalo, how long is the deal for, and are there any escape routes in the deal should Allen progress faster than expected.  The Bills would not want to be loaded down with a boatload of dead cap obligations should they want to trade Bradford in a year or two.

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31 minutes ago, sven233 said:

 

Before we get too far ahead of ourselves here, do you know where Rapoport said this?  I took a quick look through his Twitter and saw nothing about this.  Was it on TV or something? 

 

Just don't want everyone worrying/responding to something that was never said. 

 

I was wondering the same thing...

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6 minutes ago, Southern Bills Fan said:

We might stay at 12 and 21. Bradford could be mentoring Peterman. Same style of QB.

In that they both have people who insist they are better than they really are, and show you a glimmer of hope before the bottom falls out?

 

Bradford just gives you more, for longer.

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10 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

Bills WRs and TEs should be excited if Bradford signs. Very accurate passer. 

Yeah.  Amazing how the QBs have lined themselves at Washington (Smith), Denver (Keenum),  Minny (Cousins),  Browns (Tyrod) , Jets (Bridgewater) leaving us and the cardinals to fight for Bradford.  Where does this leave Foles...Will that be the loser of the Bradford sweepstakes ?

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Just now, ganesh said:

Yeah.  Amazing how the QBs have lined themselves at Washington (Smith), Denver (Keenum),  Minny (Cousins),  Browns (Tyrod) , Jets (Bridgewater) leaving us and the cardinals to fight for Bradford.  Where does this leave Foles...Will that be the loser of the Bradford sweepstakes ?

 

Some would argue that Brandford is basically only behind Cousins, and so it's the other teams that are left fighting for the scraps.

 

In my view, all of these guys are the same-- just bridge/insurance guys. I really don't care who we sign, but it needs to be someone.

 

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23 minutes ago, billrooter said:

Did not realize he had a season he started that many games, just looked up his stats 20 TDs and 5 picks and 3877 yards. Those are nice stats, hopefully if he signs here we hit the lottery and he starts 15 games again.

 

That's the thing with him, you know if he's healthy he's going to perform well (at least middle of the league standards), but the health is really 50-50

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1 minute ago, ganesh said:

Yeah.  Amazing how the QBs have lined themselves at Washington (Smith), Denver (Keenum),  Minny (Cousins),  Browns (Tyrod) , Jets (Bridgewater) leaving us and the cardinals to fight for Bradford.  Where does this leave Foles...Will that be the loser of the Bradford sweepstakes ?

Mccarron still out there as well 

 

not sure anyone is willing to trade for Foles what the Eagles are asking for 

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2 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said:

 

I'd prefer Bradford over McCown, but both are injury prone.

And that’s the risk that comes with both of them. However, there really isn’t a better alternative in terms of skill and injury risk. If we do draft one of the early qb’s that would give cushion bearing the injury history associated with mccown and Bradford.

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This is a risk-reward scenario. Bradford, when healthy, is better than Keenum, and is probably better than Cousins. If Zimmer started him in the Vikes-Eagles game, Vikes are probably in the Super Bowl. You are getting a possibly elite player for a low cost, but he might get injured. I think it is a good risk to take with the current free agent landscape. 

 

3 minutes ago, ganesh said:

Yeah.  Amazing how the QBs have lined themselves at Washington (Smith), Denver (Keenum),  Minny (Cousins),  Browns (Tyrod) , Jets (Bridgewater) leaving us and the cardinals to fight for Bradford.  Where does this leave Foles...Will that be the loser of the Bradford sweepstakes ?

 

I think Foles winds up in Arizona. They can't be going into Larry Fitzgerald's twilight years with a rookie and Mike Glennon. 

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16 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

Bills WRs and TEs should be excited if Bradford signs. Very accurate passer. 

YEah, for 5 games as long as they don't go past 5 yards down the field.

 

if Jarvis Landry played with Bradford, he'd have 200 catches for 1,000 yards.

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Just now, The Jokeman said:

To me that's the best plan of attack and count me on the Rosen band wagon.

is it just be or has the darnold hype just completely come to a halt? its like he's been an afterthought over the last month in any qb discussion I see on here or even in the media. 

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3 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said:

This is a risk-reward scenario. Bradford, when healthy, is better than Keenum, and is probably better than Cousins. If Zimmer started him in the Vikes-Eagles game, Vikes are probably in the Super Bowl. You are getting a possibly elite player for a low cost, but he might get injured. I think it is a good risk to take with the current free agent landscape. 

 

 

I think Foles winds up in Arizona. They can't be going into Larry Fitzgerald's twilight years with a rookie and Mike Glennon. 

I don't get the Bradford hype. Keenum became the starter like 3 games into the season and threw more tds than Bradford has in any season of his career.

 

Bradford isn't the worst but what's the point? Why pay a whatever qb $15 million plus?  If we are moving up for a real qb in the draft, let him, Peterson, & a much cheaper vet battle it out. Money could be spent so much better than on Bradford.

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4 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said:

This is a risk-reward scenario. Bradford, when healthy, is better than Keenum, and is probably better than Cousins. If Zimmer started him in the Vikes-Eagles game, Vikes are probably in the Super Bowl. You are getting a possibly elite player for a low cost, but he might get injured. I think it is a good risk to take with the current free agent landscape. 

 

 

I think Foles winds up in Arizona. They can't be going into Larry Fitzgerald's twilight years with a rookie and Mike Glennon. 

  I wish I shared the enthusiasm as many on here about Bradford,  he is hurt all the time. But he is not better than Cousins when healthy, he has never had a season as good as Cousins last three.

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1 minute ago, Stank_Nasty said:

is it just be or has the darnold hype just completely come to a halt? its like he's been an afterthought over the last month in any qb discussion I see on here or even in the media. 

I think Darnold gets lost in the mix because he doesn't exceed in anyone area. Yet he might be the most complete QB ready for the NFL. I l know NFL.com compares him to Andrew Luck but not sure he's that good but think he's the 2nd best QB in this class behind Rosen, Allen is a distant third and then Mayfield and then Rudolph and finally Jackson. I've bolded the guys I like.

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