CuddyDark Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 Just now, matter2003 said: I wish someone would not believe in me and hand me a $100 million contract You probably have ZERO talent worthy of $100 let alone $100M. Football talent I mean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 He treated his teammates like crap by not giving it his all. Respect is earned not given. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 Just now, CuddyDark said: You probably have ZERO talent worthy of $100 let alone $100M. Football talent I mean. True but you just dont hand out $100 million contracts to players you don't believe in was my point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 Meh, Marcell will smoke a bunch of pot this off season and get the Josh Gordon treatment from the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theAteam Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 We gave him $100 million !@#$ing dollars. And he repaid them by crashing cars and failing drug tests. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 1 minute ago, mattynh said: He treated his teammates like crap by not giving it his all. Respect is earned not given. He must have been paying more attention to Mario Williams and Stephon Gillmore and not enough to the guy lining up next to him, KW95 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkyMannn Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 Anyone notice how much the Jag's dropped Dareus into coverage yesterday. A number of plays. In fact that last Steeler TD to JuJu Dareus was standing next to him in the end zone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 7 minutes ago, CuddyDark said: Trust. Accountability. Friendship. Wow, you don't see the irony in this post? Accountability? Well, unlike Whaley and Rex, McD taught Dareus a life's lesson in accountability. He should thank him instead of endless crying about how badly he was treated in Buffalo (which is delusional at best--he should be asked to provide a sample on the spot after this latest whacko rant). There are thousands of hard luck stories in the NFL. Dareus is little different. He's a gown adult. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 They handed that "nobody" the biggest contract in franchise history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CuddyDark Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 5 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: Wow, you don't see the irony in this post? Accountability? Well, unlike Whaley and Rex, McD taught Dareus a life's lesson in accountability. He should thank him instead of endless crying about how badly he was treated in Buffalo (which is delusional at best--he should be asked to provide a sample on the spot after this latest whacko rant). There are thousands of hard luck stories in the NFL. Dareus is little different. He's a gown adult. What irony? I'm telling you he didn't learn those things like most people learn them normally. I'm also saying if he's ever going to give you a shot at proving anything to you he must believe it's worth it to himself. Bills knew this when they drafted him. He's from a bad home life. Some of these players have to be managed like they're children because of how they grew up. Bills KNEW THIS WHEN THEY DRAFTED HIM. You don't get it. He's troubled. He believes everyone is against him. Probably only person he trusted in the world is Kyle Williams, and Kim Pegula. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 Old news. Moving on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Johnson Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 He is fired up after a big win. Nothing really significant about these comments. But he is a rotational player on the Jaguars - a run stuffing DT from what I can tell. Whatever he did in the past is water under the bridge - the Bills HAD to get out from that contract and it is amazing they found a trade partner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 I have literally no time for people who blame their environment for being a sub standard human being. A.) If you know enough to blame your surroundings for your poor behavior, then you recognize your behavior is poor, and rather than fix it you find excuses to keep doing it. This tells me you're beyond comfortable with being a bad person. B.) He is not the only human ever to have lost people or grown up without positive role models. Not 100% of those same people grew up to be 30 year old children, so that tells me its about the person not the situation. He got paid and didn't live up to his end of the bargain, so he got shipped out of town. Hopefully for his long term existence he realizes its not the world's fault he keeps finding himself in bad situations. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 (edited) 47 minutes ago, CuddyDark said: Environment is everything to a kid like Marcell. Bills didn't help him. He's lost a lot in life and he needs someone to believe in him. Bills didn't. We'll see but my guess is Marcell will be the best DT in football going forward. I really don't even look at this year because I think he's still in his NT shape. If he’s in NT shape then that’s his fault. Edited January 15, 2018 by Royale with Cheese Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Arnold Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 47 minutes ago, CuddyDark said: He's telling the truth. He didn't even start for the Jaguars until last week. All-Pro? Maybe he should have played like one instead of smoking dope and not giving a crap. This guy is a POS. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 Meh. He’s a great talent and we rewarded him accordingly until he became a distraction. I’m hoping he lives up to his potential with the Jags...just didn’t work out in Buffalo. Personally I wish him the best and don’t hold a grudge or anything like that, he just needed a fresh start and they gave it to him. If he can keep clean it will probably work out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 He’s an idiot. The trade may have ended our season vs Jacksonville but I’d make the trade over and over. 1 strike away from season long suspension. Seems like he breaks down every other year and gets his weed fix. Good riddance. Didn’t like the pick when we made it. Hate it even more today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DabillsDaBillsDaBills Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 Agree with most of what was said. We didn't really "dump his contract" though. He's still counting for 14mil deadcap next season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 The one thing that Sal C said was the difference in the relationship with this regime is they didn’t coddle him like previous ones. Sal C said the reason why he was benched for the first quarter and first half in the last two games in 2014 was because he was late for roughly 30 meetings throughout the year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 8 minutes ago, CuddyDark said: What irony? I'm telling you he didn't learn those things like most people learn them normally. I'm also saying if he's ever going to give you a shot at proving anything to you he must believe it's worth it to himself. Bills knew this when they drafted him. He's from a bad home life. Some of these players have to be managed like they're children because of how they grew up. Bills KNEW THIS WHEN THEY DRAFTED HIM. You don't get it. He's troubled. He believes everyone is against him. Probably only person he trusted in the world is Kyle Williams, and Kim Pegula. You know nothing about him personally, other than what you read as we all have. Spare us the analysis (which by the way people here were saying 6-7 years ago). At some point he's not the infantile man boy you're still claiming he is. As for "giving him a shot", the Bills went above and beyond to coddle this kid from day one. They looked away each time he screwed them. The endlessly chimed in their support--even as he was boldly lying to them about his need for and imminent plan for entering rehab. Kim Pegula coddled him on the team plane after yet another screw up. Then the owners and GM decided to make him a wildly rich man, DESPITE his history on the team, with NO financial repercussion placed in the contract for further behavioral problems How on earth can you claim they were not supportive of him? There's zero credibility in that argument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CEN-CAL17 Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 (edited) Yeah Marcel, why don’t you abuse more drugs, continue to drag race, get in trouble with the law, show up late all the time etc and then see how they treat you there you child! Edited January 15, 2018 by 1ZAYDAY1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjt328 Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 Not sure if anyone has noticed, but Marcel Dareus hasn't even been starting for the Jacksonville Jaguars. He has been on the roster for 11 games (including the playoffs) and has started exactly 2 of them. So the team and coaching staff that apparently values him so much, has him playing behind Malik Jackson and former undrafted free agent Abry Jones. Not to mention, when put on the trade block and made available to the ENTIRE NFL, the best offer Buffalo could get in return was a conditional 6th Round Pick. I was always pulling for Dareus to turn his life around. But it's clear the guy will never take responsibility for his own actions. There was a time when Dareus actually WAS an All-Pro, WAS worthy of $100 million and WAS extremely valued by this franchise. You would think that getting traded (at 27 years old, during what should be the peak of his career) for basically nothing would have been yet another wake-up call. But nope. He thinks Sean McDermott and the Bills had it out for him. Sad to say, but it's probably only a matter of time before he makes another stupid move and ends his NFL career. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 Nevertheless, when it comes to the Jags, I still like Dareus more than friggin’ Pos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 1 hour ago, Bangarang said: He got drafted 3rd overall, got paid $100 mil and was given every opportunity to clean his act up. What kind of nobodies does he know that get similar treatment? exactly. i'm a huge dareus fan, but he wasn't exactly treated like garbage. 20 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: The one thing that Sal C said was the difference in the relationship with this regime is they didn’t coddle him like previous ones. Sal C said the reason why he was benched for the first quarter and first half in the last two games in 2014 was because he was late for roughly 30 meetings throughout the year. 30? they allowed him to be late to 30 meetings? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Arnold Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 21 minutes ago, DabillsDaBillsDaBills said: Agree with most of what was said. We didn't really "dump his contract" though. He's still counting for 14mil deadcap next season Dumped as much as we could. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Young34 Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 He's just butt hurt he can't drag race in WNY anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 1 minute ago, teef said: 30? they allowed him to be late to 30 meetings? I've heard it's the 31st that really pisses them off. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KollegeStudnet Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 I dig Dareus. I’m glad he is where he is and both sides, him and us, deserved a fresh start. The only negatives I have is his maturity and leadership. His past is rough, he’s dealt with a lot of family issues. A young guy, with hardly any family support. Lost his mother young and lost his father when he was 6. His brother was murdered before the Chiefs game several years ago. http://m.thepostgame.com/features/201104/marcell-dareus-alabama-crimson-tide-defensive-tackle-nfl-draft https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sbnation.com/platform/amp/nfl/2012/9/12/3320350/marcell-dareus-brother-killed I do blame the organization a tad, but I also blame Dareus too. He went through a revolving door of coaches and in an atmosphere of a losing culture. If I played for the Bills, I might say something similar. He wasn’t Mc Beane’s guy. He was traded. In his eyes he felt like he wasn’t wanted. I say good luck to him, crush Brady and beat the Pats! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 1 minute ago, GoBills808 said: I've heard it's the 31st that really pisses them off. outstanding! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 Hard to be an All Pro when you don't start. i hope this kid grows up at some point but I have my doubts he ever will. Look for a problem with him within the next year. hate to see talent wasted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthNYfan Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 1 hour ago, CuddyDark said: I'm sure it's because he wanted out by then. I'm not saying I'm for any of his antics. I'm saying you have to understand kids like him. He's never going to go along to get along if he thinks you're not doing the same. You have $100million contract. You show up and do your job. Voice your opinion to management. If you don't like it there, play out the deal and leave. Nobody is holding a gun to your head. I understand "kids like him" perfectly. He wants to run the show and not be held accountable for anything he says or does. He wants to blame everybody else for his problems. Nobody forced him to drag race. Nobody forced him to smoke and violate his workplace drug policy multiple times. Nobody forced him to show up late to a GAME. These are on him. Period. Even if he didn't like the job situation he was in, he made no effort to rectify it, other than to act out like a whiny baby. Grow up Marcel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 1 hour ago, BuffaloRush said: Great comments from Marcel "Mr. Big Stuff" Dareus following a Jacksonville win where his defense gave up nearly 50 points. He sure sounds like a jilted lover that was dumped. Here's the best comment: http://buffalonews.com/2018/01/15/marcell-dareus-says-bills-organization-treated-him-like-a-nobody/?utm_campaign=puma&utm_medium=social&utm_source=Twitter#link_time=1516027750 Then Dareus talked about his own journey. Dareus said he loved the city of Buffalo, but then offered a sarcastic thank you to Bills coach Sean McDermott for helping him make changes in his life before the trade. (Last week, he said joining the Jaguars helped turn his life around.) I'm sorry to all you Bills revisionist historians out there, but Marcell is not the same player he was 4 years ago. Marcell is Yes he is a competent starter that is capable of being productive. And yes trading Marcel did hurt the Bills defense and the return they got for him was pathetic. The problem is that Marcell couldn't be trusted not to smoke weed or to do something stupid. He was one strike away from a season long suspension. Worse, his contract was so bloated and did not justify his production or his importance to the defense. Also don't think for a second that his contract won't have repercussions on Jacksonville. Next year, they probably won't have the cap space to sign any of the big free agent QB's. Sorry but to anyone that feels that Marcel is that all pro or one of the best players in the league is sadly mistaken. He looked pretty good yesterday but I wouldn't call his performance dominant. Also, he's playing on a line with two All-Pro defensive lineman and several other good pass rushers. Watch the game film from earlier this year - or watch the games against Miami last year. Marcell is living off his past laurels and I will stand by the fact that dumping his contract was a good move by the Bills. Jerry Sullivan put things into perspective: He is a one time NFL All Pro...only made the team in his contract year. Only time he had 10 or more sacks as well. While I am very aware there is more to a DT than sacks...it shows me what he was always capable of when properly motivated. He has had games where he took over. He's had big plays at big times. He's also lazy and only really plays when it benefits him. There is not a place on a team put together by McBeane for self serving players like him. He really could have been one of the all time greats. Have fun with him Jacksonville. Until you actually pay him. Then....he gone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iinii Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: This again? Bills are living rent-free in Marcel’s head. Time to move on, 99. Seems like Puff Daddy has a lot of places to stay rent free too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jpsredemption Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 Everyone else's fault but his. Continues his delusional mode of thinking. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 1 hour ago, CuddyDark said: No he'll have this in his head for the rest of his career. He'll still be saying, "because I'm not good enough for Buffalo," for years to come. Especially if he's doing well. Player use being cut or traded as motivation all the time. He was saying the same things when he was still here. https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/2015/08/22/marcell-dareus-contract-buffalo-bills/32202447/ “I’m not looking, necessarily, for Suh’s numbers,” Dareus said. “I just want to be treated right, just like everyone else. He later added: “I feel like I should be paid what I’m due.” Following Buffalo’s 11-10 preseason victory Thursday against the Cleveland Browns, Dareus expressed his displeasure with negotiations and hinted that he might be on his way out of Buffalo. “They’re making it hard,” Dareus told The Buffalo Newson Thursday. “And it’s just really making me unhappy. I feel like they don’t really want me here.” According to The Buffalo News, the Bills have offered Dareus a six-year, $90 million contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KHAN Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 He'll likely get next year to prove himself to JAX. His cap hit for 2018 is about $10M. But they only save about $2M if they cut him. In 2019 they can get out with no cap hit. If he plays to his ability and stays out of trouble, he's probably worth it to them thanks to the huge bonus the Bills had to eat... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, TheTruthHurts said: Dareus is an all pro talent, probably will be a dominant player on that team much like Lynch in Seattle. Both players went to the perfect landing spots to turn their careers around. His play here in a 3-4 wasn't worth his contract. Neither was his play this past year in a 4-3 - demotivated and demoralized would cover it, though he did contribute against the run. Early assessments in Jax are he's not the dominant player he once was, though he does contribute as he did here. If he's motivated in the off season, trains like crazy, and comes back as a lean mean sacking machine he may have a resurgence as he's playing besides two all-stars again and he'll get his shots. If he parties down and feels ill-used, he's likely to stay where he is, which is not, right now, at all-pro Edit: I want to add that I think the Jags may prove their own worst enemies going into next week. They are feisty and confident, which is good, but they play like punks at times. The play that took Taylor out was a dirty play. Do that to Tom Brady, you'll be penalized, fined, and suspended. They need to learn that in Foxboro, they are playing the Zebras as well as the Pats. Edited January 15, 2018 by Hapless Bills Fan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 1 hour ago, CuddyDark said: I'm sure it's because he wanted out by then. I'm not saying I'm for any of his antics. I'm saying you have to understand kids like him. He's never going to go along to get along if he thinks you're not doing the same. Woe is me. You're the wealthiest non-pegula there, and you act like a brat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaviorPeterman Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 I posted a similar thread last week and was roasted for it, but I do believe Dareus is speaking the truth and the fact say that McD/Beane had tunnel vision when it came to Dareus's contract and could care less about anything else. Regardless whats done is done and Dareus will certainly have the last laugh if he wins a superbowl with St. Doug and the Jags. And if they upset the Pats it's going to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 1 hour ago, Mr. WEO said: Wow, when doe he shut up about this? My guess is about 7:35 p.m. next Sunday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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