hondo in seattle Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 "Tyrod isn't the right QB to run Dennison's offense." "Dennison isn't the right coordinator to make maximum use of Tyrod's skill set." We can argue which statement is more true, but I think it's plain to everyone that the Dennison/Taylor isn't a workable OC/QB combo. So who goes next year? Hotrod? Rico? Both? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffBillsForLife Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 They'll both be gone. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted December 4, 2017 Author Share Posted December 4, 2017 A few weeks ago, I was thinking Tyrod would most likely be the one gone. But when Mike McCoy became available, I started wondering if both Rico and Taylor would be replaced. Or maybe just Rico. McD is said to be high on McCoy. At the moment, I don't have a strong opinion about who may stay and who might leave - which is why I started a new topic. I'm wondering what the collective wisdom of the board can offer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr1 Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 Tyrod's career high for yards in a college season was 2743. This is his style Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Murica Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 I really want Rico gone. I feel like I’m watching a Nate Hackett offense again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyC81 Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 32 minutes ago, hondo in seattle said: "Tyrod isn't the right QB to run Dennison's offense." "Dennison isn't the right coordinator to make maximum use of Tyrod's skill set." We can argue which statement is more true, but I think it's plain to everyone that the Dennison/Taylor isn't a workable OC/QB combo. So who goes next year? Hotrod? Rico? Both? The play call in the 4th Qtr on 4th and goal was ridiculous and Dennison should be canned just for that. Yes, I know we've seen many teams do something similar but I just don't get it. An empty backfield and a low percentage fade pattern? UNACCEPTABLE!!!! You could still have a spread formation with McCoy in the backfield so the defense can't tell whether you're going to run or pass but an empty backfield made no sense on 4th and goal from the one. They were very effective running the ball on that drive up until then. I'd rather see an attempt to power it in instead of a fade pattern by a rookie QB to a rookie WR. I wouldn't even call that if it was Larry FItzgerald. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xRUSHx Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 (edited) Goodbye Tyrod, the Rex era is hopefully finally over now. Alex Smith had more yards and scores in the first 5 minutes this week then Tyrod had after 8 quarters of the NO and NE games combined. Edited December 4, 2017 by xRUSHx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pbomb Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 1 hour ago, xRUSHx said: Goodbye Tyrod, the Rex era is hopefully finally over now. Alex Smith had more yards and scores in the first 5 minutes this week then Tyrod had after 8 quarters of the NO and NE games combined. But tyrod does a great job managing games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 3 hours ago, hondo in seattle said: "Tyrod isn't the right QB to run Dennison's offense." "Dennison isn't the right coordinator to make maximum use of Tyrod's skill set." We can argue which statement is more true, but I think it's plain to everyone that the Dennison/Taylor isn't a workable OC/QB combo. So who goes next year? Hotrod? Rico? Both? Both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 As long as Tyrod is still here will be replacing HC/OC every couple of years , Tyrod needs to go , with that said I’m not impressed with Rico at all , IMO over all he did a poor job with Tyrod , Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 4 hours ago, hondo in seattle said: "Tyrod isn't the right QB to run Dennison's offense." "Dennison isn't the right coordinator to make maximum use of Tyrod's skill set." We can argue which statement is more true, but I think it's plain to everyone that the Dennison/Taylor isn't a workable OC/QB combo. So who goes next year? Hotrod? Rico? Both? Both Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 Tyrod is gone. It's over. Rico I am 50/50 on. If they keep him then they need to look for a QB that fits his style and rebuild an offensive line that suits the zone stretch. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rochesterfan Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 6 hours ago, hondo in seattle said: "Tyrod isn't the right QB to run Dennison's offense." "Dennison isn't the right coordinator to make maximum use of Tyrod's skill set." We can argue which statement is more true, but I think it's plain to everyone that the Dennison/Taylor isn't a workable OC/QB combo. So who goes next year? Hotrod? Rico? Both? I think TT is 100% gone - I think that decision was made before the SD game and the benching. Dennison - I think he will be back unless McD is able to lure a young guy like Dorsey from Carolina. I think that is someone he wanted last year that got blocked and it would not shock me to see if try to raid that staff this year. I could see the same thing on the defensive side where they bring in a Carolina coach to better run the defense and keep LF as more of a mentor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fixxxer Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 Neither. McCoy and a rookie QB, plus Peterman, plus another journeyman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 Tyrod for certain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Arnold Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 6 hours ago, hondo in seattle said: "Tyrod isn't the right QB to run Dennison's offense." "Dennison isn't the right coordinator to make maximum use of Tyrod's skill set." We can argue which statement is more true, but I think it's plain to everyone that the Dennison/Taylor isn't a workable OC/QB combo. So who goes next year? Hotrod? Rico? Both? It doesn't matter. They both need to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 2 hours ago, MAJBobby said: Both Yup. Don't want to build around a flawed qb. Don't want a bad oc coaching a rookie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolishDave Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 6 hours ago, hondo in seattle said: A few weeks ago, I was thinking Tyrod would most likely be the one gone. But when Mike McCoy became available, I started wondering if both Rico and Taylor would be replaced. Or maybe just Rico. McD is said to be high on McCoy. At the moment, I don't have a strong opinion about who may stay and who might leave - which is why I started a new topic. I'm wondering what the collective wisdom of the board can offer. Well, we'll see if McDermott has the balls to fire Rico after his first year. I am not so sure he does. Tyrod is very likely done. And this team is very likely to get worse next year, possibly a lot worse (if you can even imagine that) unless they truly hit on the QB in the draft. Sad time to be a season ticket holder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 7 hours ago, hondo in seattle said: "Tyrod isn't the right QB to run Dennison's offense. Taylor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 If there’s a god both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 I would say Tyrod gone 100% certainty... Dennison gone 75% certainty. He was not the first choice and better options will present themselves in the off-season. Surprised if he comes back, especially if we draft a QB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 There's still a single poster here who wants to see Tyrod suit up again ? How much do you need to see ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 Tyrod is gone for sure. Rico is up in the air. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Arnold Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 1 hour ago, PolishDave said: Well, we'll see if McDermott has the balls to fire Rico after his first year. I am not so sure he does. It will take bigger balls to keep Dennison at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Gun Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 I would keep Dennison before I would keep Tyrod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddaryl Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 You can design an Offense taylored to Tyrod, but teams will adjust to that quickly.. The fact is a QB's like TT who are limited in their ability to play from the pocket, and/or cannot hit timing routes with any consistency will always be an achilles heal no matter what. both Dennison and TT will be replaced next season imo, but if its only 1 then TT is the one going Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 3 hours ago, MAJBobby said: Both Both for sure, I won't even watch a game if Taylor is starting, way to boring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, PolishDave said: Well, we'll see if McDermott has the balls to fire Rico after his first year. I am not so sure he does. Tyrod is very likely done. And this team is very likely to get worse next year, possibly a lot worse (if you can even imagine that) unless they truly hit on the QB in the draft. Sad time to be a season ticket holder. And for me that is why they should not have punted all this back a year. If they wanted to rip off the band aid of what Rex and Whales left they should have done it in year 1. Ditch Tyrod, ditch the big contracts, take a shot on their QB of the future in the 1st and pare the team back. They just punted the pain for a year for more kitty QB play. It was a wrong choice. Edited December 4, 2017 by GunnerBill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 8 hours ago, hondo in seattle said: "Tyrod isn't the right QB to run Dennison's offense." "Dennison isn't the right coordinator to make maximum use of Tyrod's skill set." We can argue which statement is more true, but I think it's plain to everyone that the Dennison/Taylor isn't a workable OC/QB combo. So who goes next year? Hotrod? Rico? Both? Bofe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 8 hours ago, hondo in seattle said: "Tyrod isn't the right QB to run Dennison's offense." "Dennison isn't the right coordinator to make maximum use of Tyrod's skill set." We can argue which statement is more true, but I think it's plain to everyone that the Dennison/Taylor isn't a workable OC/QB combo. So who goes next year? Hotrod? Rico? Both? With McD already utilizing Peterman i think the proof of what he wants to do was in the pudding when he pulled TT . Now i really can't say as i blame him !! But as it goes in B/lo they will let him walk or trade him & like most other Bills players & coaches that have went elsewhere he will flourish . But i think McD & company has a plan like all the other coaches that have been here i just hope his will work ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloFan68 Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 Tyrod is pretty much a goner (overdue in my book). The question is, how is our relationship with McCoy since he ditched us for Denver? We all know the NFL has figured out how easy it is to stop our Dennison/Taylor game plans. Is Dennison able to get production & points out of this offense with a different QB? Go Bills!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProcessTheTrust Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 Both. Tyrod is obvious and no way McBeane are entrusting Rico with the development of their franchise savior next draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianb386 Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 I would like Tyrod to stay and Rico let go. However, I still want The Bills to go all out to get their QB in the draft. No reason to bring in a young QB who is forced by default to start day one in a pathetic offense. Get a better offensive philosophy and let the new guy take over when he is ready. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 Can we move on from both? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maynard Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 They both should be gone, but I’m not sure McD will get rid of Rico after one year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDH Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 8 hours ago, LittleJoeCartwright said: The play call in the 4th Qtr on 4th and goal was ridiculous and Dennison should be canned just for that. Yes, I know we've seen many teams do something similar but I just don't get it. An empty backfield and a low percentage fade pattern? UNACCEPTABLE!!!! You could still have a spread formation with McCoy in the backfield so the defense can't tell whether you're going to run or pass but an empty backfield made no sense on 4th and goal from the one. They were very effective running the ball on that drive up until then. I'd rather see an attempt to power it in instead of a fade pattern by a rookie QB to a rookie WR. I wouldn't even call that if it was Larry FItzgerald. Totally agree. Fade from the 1 yard line out of an empty backfield was about the lowest percentage play they could call there. To top it off they threw it to their #3 WR who was being covered by legit #1 CB (despite what a vocal faction on this board would have people believe.) It made absolutely zero sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 4 minutes ago, MDH said: Totally agree. Fade from the 1 yard line out of an empty backfield was about the lowest percentage play they could call there. To top it off they threw it to their #3 WR who was being covered by legit #1 CB (despite what a vocal faction on this board would have people believe.) It made absolutely zero sense. I could not agree more! That play call should have gotten him fired on the spot. Horrible! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freeagentqb Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 I vote both gone. Such a pitiful offense and tired of a caretaker QB who totally relies on the run game and dump-offs to survive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 (edited) 2 hours ago, Air it out Fitzy said: There's still a single poster here who wants to see Tyrod suit up again ? How much do you need to see ? I see at least 2 - CopyPaste Captain Agenda and maybe one other super fan Edited December 4, 2017 by ShadyBillsFan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 Both should be gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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