Buffalo03 Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 I don't want to waste another 5 years waiting to see if a drafted QB is going to work out again. Lets just go for the proven guy. Go get Kirk Cousins in the offseason and focus the draft on other needs 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aceman_16 Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 Would we have the upfront money to do this? Interesting thought though.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 I'd rather draft our own guy and I'd be surprised if he decided to come to Buffalo if he reaches UFA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real McClappy Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 (edited) I'd be fine with this but not sure we would even have the cap room if we wanted him. Seeing how valuable the QB position is, are the Skins that dumb to even let him walk? Edited November 20, 2017 by Real McCoy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingston Bills Fan Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 Maybe Alex Smith would give us 5 years or so to rebuild but still contend 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrbojanglezs Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 Why so we can only lose by 20 instead of 30 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real McClappy Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 1 minute ago, Mrbojanglezs said: Why so we can only lose by 20 instead of 30 Nahh, I think he is saying to use all our draft capital to fix other needs like O and D line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dezertbill Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 12 minutes ago, Buffalo03 said: I don't want to waste another 5 years waiting to see if a drafted QB is going to work out again. Lets just go for the proven guy. Go get Kirk Cousins in the offseason and focus the draft on other needs Totally on board with this. Checks all the boxes. Character, Stats, leadership. Get'r done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 Nope. If the last 3 games have taught us anything, it's this: this team is nowhere near being able to compete. That tells me that it's time to go with a rookie QB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 12 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: I'd rather draft our own guy and I'd be surprised if he decided to come to Buffalo if he reaches UFA. I agree with 26. Redskins are tailspinning--lost 4 of last 6. Let Snyder keep blowing huge cap on this guy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLXbillsmafia Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 4 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: I agree with 26. Redskins are tailspinning--lost 4 of last 6. Let Snyder keep blowing huge cap on this guy. Take a look at the Redskins schedule. They would be a playoff team in the AFC, easy. Their defense collapsed today against NO, but Cousins played great. He has been top 10 in passer rating 3 straight years. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo03 Posted November 20, 2017 Author Share Posted November 20, 2017 6 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said: Nope. If the last 3 games have taught us anything, it's this: this team is nowhere near being able to compete. That tells me that it's time to go with a rookie QB The problem with this though, is if you miss in the draft then you set this team back another 5 years. With our track record of drafting the past 17 years we will most likely end up drafting the wrong guy. Cousins easily has another 10 years ahead of him. It would be the same as drafting our own guy except we would be paying him a lot more money up front Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 I was wrong--it's 5 of the last 7 games are losses. So you're saying that he can't be expected to beat good teams in his own conference, but he would be worth having... ...and with our D and O-line... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 No thanks- 30-35 mil a year for a qb that is a little above average. Lets draft our guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 30 minutes ago, Kingston Bills Fan said: Maybe Alex Smith would give us 5 years or so to rebuild but still contend The sad part is Smith could have already been on this team a long time ago, when he was getting pushed out of the scene in San Francisco. Why the hell not pursue both plans! Aggressively pursue our guy in the draft and go buy Cousins on the open market and see how things play out. If we dump Tyrod we'll have a bunch more cash floating around, plus there are going to be more salary savings next year as this roster becomes totally reshaped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 32 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: I'd rather draft our own guy and I'd be surprised if he decided to come to Buffalo if he reaches UFA. Ding, ding!!! Why don't for once the Bills spend some real picks on a qb? but who cares about qb? We have zone cbs and replacement for talented players we let go to replace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luka Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 With all the holes and all the "dead cap" money, we couldn't afford to sign a guy like that and fix anything else wrong with the team. He would have to be Tom Brady to even think about winning with this current roster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo03 Posted November 20, 2017 Author Share Posted November 20, 2017 2 minutes ago, billsfan_34 said: No thanks- 30-35 mil a year for a qb that is a little above average. Lets draft our guy You won't have to pay him that much money. He would only make that much money by being on the franchise tag for a 3rd straight year, otherwise we could get him for between $20-$25 million a season. I wouldn't call him a little above average either. He's a fairly good QB if you ask me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Domdab99 Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 God no. Cousins is an idiot who has already lost two games single-handedly with stupid decisions. I'd rather have Tyrod. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo03 Posted November 20, 2017 Author Share Posted November 20, 2017 2 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: Ding, ding!!! Why don't for once the Bills spend some real picks on a qb? but who cares about qb? We have zone cbs and replacement for talented players we let go to replace. Again though, if we miss in the draft on a QB then we will set the franchise back another 5 years. Do you really want to take that chance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreggTX Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 10 minutes ago, Buffalo03 said: The problem with this though, is if you miss in the draft then you set this team back another 5 years. With our track record of drafting the past 17 years we will most likely end up drafting the wrong guy. Cousins easily has another 10 years ahead of him. It would be the same as drafting our own guy except we would be paying him a lot more money up front If our drafting doesn't get better, it won't matter who plays QB. Keep in mind, we just replaced our ENTIRE personnel staff. Let's see what they can do. Cousins may make us OK, but if we want to win it all, we have to swing for the fences. There are 31 other teams all after the same prize. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefenseWins Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 I think Cousins gets MORE than 25 million per season... 25 is the floor... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 18 minutes ago, Buffalo03 said: Again though, if we miss in the draft on a QB then we will set the franchise back another 5 years. Do you really want to take that chance? What if they hit and end up with a stud qb? Also, what has Cousins done that is so impressive? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 Redskins are probably going to back the Brink's truck up for Cousins. Their other options are let him pursue FA or tag him again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 1 hour ago, Buffalo03 said: The problem with this though, is if you miss in the draft then you set this team back another 5 years. With our track record of drafting the past 17 years we will most likely end up drafting the wrong guy. Cousins easily has another 10 years ahead of him. It would be the same as drafting our own guy except we would be paying him a lot more money up front Exactly....we've already managed to win too many games to go after a Rosen, Mayfield or Darnold. We may even be out of the Mason Rudolph level. You know what you have in Kirk Cousins and he can give you 6-8 quality years. You have no problem wasting money on Dareus or Mario Williams. Why not a qb this time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheElectricCompany Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 (edited) 43 minutes ago, DefenseWins said: I think Cousins gets MORE than 25 million per season... 25 is the floor... $27-30m per season when all is said and done. He's a good QB, I just don't think he's great, and certainly not elite. I'd pass. Edited November 20, 2017 by TheElectricCompany Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purple haze Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 (edited) 8 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said: Exactly....we've already managed to win too many games to go after a Rosen, Mayfield or Darnold. We may even be out of the Mason Rudolph level. You know what you have in Kirk Cousins and he can give you 6-8 quality years. You have no problem wasting money on Dareus or Mario Williams. Why not a qb this time? Mayfield doesn't fit the description Beane gave of a franchise QB. I hope people aren't setting their hearts on him. Edited November 20, 2017 by purple haze Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 1 hour ago, Buffalo03 said: You won't have to pay him that much money. He would only make that much money by being on the franchise tag for a 3rd straight year, otherwise we could get him for between $20-$25 million a season. I wouldn't call him a little above average either. He's a fairly good QB if you ask me Cousins market value will be right around 30- 35 mil a year for 5-7 years and someone will pay it. Do a market analysis and this is what you will come up with. I dont want to be handcuffed by a qb who does alot of sloppy, stupid things. There is a reason the Niners traded for Jimmy G and didnt wait on Cousins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Domdab99 Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 Anyone who thinks Cousins is going to do better than Tyrod in this offense and with this personnel is an idiot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsfanAZ Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 I would only be on board with Cousins if the Bills invested draft picks in Oline or free agency picks. Cousins cant make chicken salad out of chicken shlt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bakin Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 Does anyone realize the Cousins led Skins have a worse record than the Tyrod led Bills?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 49 minutes ago, TheElectricCompany said: $27-30m per season when all is said and done. He's a good QB, I just don't think he's great, and certainly not elite. I'd pass. Cousins is a far better bet than any QB coming out this year, although the price tag will be high. The Redskins’ schedule this year has been absolutely brutal, but Cousins’s numbers the last two and a half years are borderline elite. I don’t understand why he is so little respected around here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tcali Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 2 hours ago, Buffalo03 said: I don't want to waste another 5 years waiting to see if a drafted QB is going to work out again. Lets just go for the proven guy. Go get Kirk Cousins in the offseason and focus the draft on other needs Good God just stop. He is a loser.He personally gave the saints the win today with his stupidity. he has proven that he is not at all a winner.Just the Rx for buffalo;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 12 minutes ago, Bakin said: Does anyone realize the Cousins led Skins have a worse record than the Tyrod led Bills?? Wow, some awful takes in this thread. You also realize that Phil Rivers has led the Chargers to a much worse record than Tyrod since 2015, and that Drew Brees has led the Saints to one more win than Tyrod during that time, right? 11 minutes ago, Tcali said: Good God just stop. He is a loser.He personally gave the saints the win today with his stupidity. he has proven that he is not at all a winner.Just the Rx for buffalo;) Please explain how a guy who was 22-30, for 320 yards, 3tds and zero ints cost his team the game. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
808 Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 i think cousins is exactly the type of QB this front office wants. and they have the money to go after him. they'll be bidding against the skins and the jets. I'm just tired of losing. do whatever it takes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 4 hours ago, Kingston Bills Fan said: Maybe Alex Smith would give us 5 years or so to rebuild but still contend I'd take Smith at this point while we wait for the youngster to develop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 5 hours ago, Buffalo03 said: I don't want to waste another 5 years waiting to see if a drafted QB is going to work out again. Lets just go for the proven guy. Go get Kirk Cousins in the offseason and focus the draft on other needs This may be the best option, as we have won too many games to get the top pick and would have to trade a ton to get Rosen. 5 hours ago, Kingston Bills Fan said: Maybe Alex Smith would give us 5 years or so to rebuild but still contend I'd take him too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 6 hours ago, Domdab99 said: God no. Cousins is an idiot who has already lost two games single-handedly with stupid decisions. I'd rather have Tyrod. Ofc you would Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM57 Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 6 hours ago, purple haze said: Mayfield doesn't fit the description Beane gave of a franchise QB. I hope people aren't setting their hearts on him. What description did Beane give Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBean Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 He’s not leaving Washington. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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