nucci Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 Several reporters suggest we trade Ragland to KC. I would want Alex Smith back since the Chiefs don't see him as their long term QB. I think he would be perfect for what Dennison wants to do. He's very efficient and surprisingly mobile at times. I think KC wouldn't do Ragland for Smith straight up, but I wouldn't add more than a 4th rd pick. Who else could we afford to throw in to make it happen? Philly Brown? Holmes? Ducasse? Why would you want Alex Smith as QB? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just in Atlanta Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tombstone56 Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 Several reporters suggest we trade Ragland to KC. I would want Alex Smith back since the Chiefs don't see him as their long term QB. I think he would be perfect for what Dennison wants to do. He's very efficient and surprisingly mobile at times. I think KC wouldn't do Ragland for Smith straight up, but I wouldn't add more than a 4th rd pick. Who else could we afford to throw in to make it happen? Philly Brown? Holmes? Ducasse? FIRST MISTAKE YOU made was listening to a reporter. if they were able to do anything besides talk about it maybe they would have a real job in football. by the way which idiots you listen you anyway? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watkins101 Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 I don't think. The Chiefs would do this. Unless we gave them their first back... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HumbleAndHungry Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 We will not make any trades with KC this year. Alex smith is not a franchise qb and that's what we desperately need Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 Wed have to get rid of tyrod right? We have to do crazy cap moves to even do this. We need depth and he is depth with a promise of upside. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROONDOGG55 Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 Several reporters suggest we trade Ragland to KC. I would want Alex Smith back since the Chiefs don't see him as their long term QB. I think he would be perfect for what Dennison wants to do. He's very efficient and surprisingly mobile at times. I think KC wouldn't do Ragland for Smith straight up, but I wouldn't add more than a 4th rd pick. Who else could we afford to throw in to make it happen? Philly Brown? Holmes? Ducasse? Definitely not Smith, but I would trade Ragland for D'Anthony Thomas and a 5th round pick. We need someone electrifying out there for our return game. Going to be hard to play ground and pound ball with bad field position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 i tell you what i wish we had the cap space for joe haden I'd be the they'd move Haden, but would not be interested in Ragland. No place for him on Greggg's defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 Alex Smith would get best QB we've had since at least Flutie. Do y'all ever watch him play? Giants no longer wanted Kurt Warner but he was Arizona's saviour. Nobody wanted Gannon yet he was Oakland's savior. It happens. If you're looking to Alex Smith to be your savior, it's over. End of story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBaumer Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 I think this board needs to shut down for a week and drain the swamp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 i tell you what i wish we had the cap space for joe haden I'd be the they'd move Haden, but would not be interested in Ragland. No place for him on Greggg's defense. I'm not saying send them rags for him but if they want our second let's go Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BmarvB Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 (edited) Ugh, aren't we trying to improve the quarterback position? Granted, He's not going to the HOF but all he does is win enough games to get to qualify for the playoffs.There's nothing at all fancy about him but he does get the job done. Edited August 16, 2017 by BmarvB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 Alex Smith would get best QB we've had since at least Flutie. Do y'all ever watch him play? Giants no longer wanted Kurt Warner but he was Arizona's saviour. Nobody wanted Gannon yet he was Oakland's savior. It happens. Wishful thinking. We get hot for every QB who isn't a Bill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 I'm not saying send them rags for him but if they want our second let's go Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk I'm sure they'd do that and probably even kick back a day 3 pick. They seem to be preparing to move on from him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlottebillsfan2 Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 It would be something if we traded Ragland and picked up their second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 It would be something if we traded Ragland and picked up their second. Seriously doubt we get that. Just got a text sugegsting rumor of a 4th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.Y. Orangeman Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 Why make the Chiefs better this year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 Stop the nonsense- Ragland has not played a down in the NFL regular seasons and hasn't looked good. So really we would throw away draft stock for Alex Smith when our franchise guy may be there in 2018? I hate to be that guy but this is ridiculous and isn't going to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Mike Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 Alex Smith?? Really?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 we couldn't even get a bag of footballs for Ragland at this point. hopefully he shows something in the preseason games because i didn't see much last week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimer1960 Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 First, Alex Smith hasn't gotten KC a playoff win and they have a much better defense than Bills will this year. More important, Alex Smith is old and near the end of the line. Why would a Bills team that isn't likely to compete for a playoff spot need to add an OK old QB nearing the end of his career? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnBonhamRocks Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 Ragland for Mahomes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billieve420 Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 Tyrod is Alex Smith 2.0 with better legs no point in making lateral moves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That's No Moon Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 First of all the original article basically suggested trading him to KC because KC needs a developmental LB, KC is good at player development, and Ragland needs development. In summary, the author's premise was Buffalo is stupid, Buffalo doesn't develop players, Ragland is going to be wasted/ruined there so lets find a reasonable landing spot. IMO, the Packers are a better match. They also have a million WRs in camp and won't be able to keep all of the good ones. There's a trade to be made there if desired. Michael Clark or Max McCaffery would be interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watkins101 Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 I don't know them well, but I like the idea of RAgs for a pack WR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That's No Moon Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 I don't know them well, but I like the idea of RAgs for a pack WR. Clark is 6'6" 220lbs and a former basketball player at Marshall. McCaffery is the another son of Ed McCaffery. 6'2" 200lbs Played at Duke, ran a 4.4 at his pro day. He went undrafted which I thought was a little odd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsredneck1 Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 I haven't seen anything posts on this but it is intriguing. It talks about a trade to the Chiefs but has no option for what the Bills would get in return. Trading Ragland, I don't think will hurt the team and could get us something well worth while. I haven't looked over the Chiefs roster but wonder if there is a speedster we could use. I don't know if I'd trade for the sake of stockpiling picks. but a 34 defensive team might be willing to cough up something good. Any thoughts? I think it would be nice to get our hands on a deep threat, especially if Matthews is going to miss time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Arnold Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 Why the hell would the Bills help the Chiefs this year? We want them to lose as many games as possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CEN-CAL17 Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 (edited) I just don't believe it... If the Bills had any idea they might trade him why would they kill his value by putting him on the 3rd team Defense? "Hey does anyone want our 3rd string MLB?" Bills will get what... a 7th rd pick? If that happens what a waste, a early 2nd rd pick wasted. Edited August 19, 2017 by 1WATKINS4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 I think we should just trade all our 1st and 2nd round picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heavy Kevi Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 Why the hell would the Bills help the Chiefs this year? We want them to lose as many games as possible. Good point. But if we were to trade him, we should take picks, maybe including a LB prospect that fits the 4-3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 There's little trade value for a guy on the third team defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimer1960 Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 Good point. But if we were to trade him, we should take picks, maybe including a LB prospect that fits the 4-3. No team would be willing to give up much at all for Ragland in his current circumstances. Coming off torn ACL, has never played a regular season NFL snap and currently not 3rd team for a defense that is hurting for LBs. For as little as you could get in return, better to keep him and hope that his struggles are mainly coming back from the injury. Trading him for a 6th or 7th round pick would be a waste unless they are convinced that he was a flat out draft mistake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 Well I'll be darned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsbackto81 Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 While I agree trading him doesn't hurt the D and the direction it's heading, I wouldn't trade him to KC unless they offer up the 2nd we spent on him. I doubt he would make a noticeable difference on a team this late coming off a major injury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 If some team offers a 4th round pick, I would drop Reggie. But I honestly don't see a team offering more than a 6th round pick. If it's a choice between a 6th or 7th round pick and keeping Reggie, I would rather keep Reggie. Reggie is a year removed from a major injury to his knee. Bills have a lot of options at LB and can basically redshirt Reggie as a backup this year. Let his knee heal and have him focus on learning the system. Then give him another full offseason of rest and see what he can do next year. Reggie has good instincts and is a very physical player. He just seems to lack the range needed to play in the current system. I think it is possible that more time removed from his injury could lead to him getting back some of his range and maybe being better able to play in the system. Granted it is possible that he just isn't a fit and is too slow. But unless I get a 4th round pick I would rather try to rebuild him and get something out of him than selling low. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r00tabaga Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 Alex Smith would get best QB we've had since at least Flutie. Do y'all ever watch him play? Giants no longer wanted Kurt Warner but he was Arizona's saviour. Nobody wanted Gannon yet he was Oakland's savior. It happens. Gross. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsredneck1 Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 Why the hell would the Bills help the Chiefs this year? We want them to lose as many games as possible. i think the article was speaking in general terms of him going to a 4-3 defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 At this point, if we can get a 3rd for him, take it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 Not exactly a new thing. Each extemporaneous thought deserves its own thread. You know this. Or each vapid tweet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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