The Wiz Posted October 6, 2016 Share Posted October 6, 2016 The question is though, does Karlos still have the burst that Karlos had? Well I would imagine since he was torched all summer it seems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty McFly Posted October 6, 2016 Share Posted October 6, 2016 Cut Bush, Williams, and Salas to start making room for the new guys. Maybe you can put Williams in the PS. But he has shown nothing to make anyone believe he is a better back than Karlos. J Williams has only had like 5 snaps and had broken ribs for the 1st few weeks. Cut him some slack his college tape is !@#$ing crazy!! It would be a mistake to let him go now. Theres other people you can cut for Dareus, Shaq, and Karlos besides Salas and J williams. In fact I bet you they wont cut J WIll or Salas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Player Available Posted October 6, 2016 Share Posted October 6, 2016 and Reggie Bush s*cks . . . ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^this^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billykaykay Posted October 6, 2016 Share Posted October 6, 2016 i keep clicking through the 2 other threads regarding Karlos hoping they at least give him a look... KW is cheaper than RB & Tate has made RB expendable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VaMilBill Posted October 6, 2016 Share Posted October 6, 2016 Problem is Gillislee hasn't gotten many chances to tote the ball. And when he has he's done a very good job. Keep in mind the reason Karlos got so many touches last year is because McCoy had a gimpy hamstring that was lingering. I realize Karlos had nine TDs last year, but Trent Richardson had 12 total TDs his rookie year and look how he panned out. For me, Karlos didn't look like the dominant runner a lot of people on this board think he is. When he finally got to start, he didn't play very well but when Gillislee started, he played exceptionally. To me Karlos is nothing but a change of pace back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prissythecat Posted October 6, 2016 Share Posted October 6, 2016 Problem is Gillislee hasn't gotten many chances to tote the ball. And when he has he's done a very good job. Keep in mind the reason Karlos got so many touches last year is because McCoy had a gimpy hamstring that was lingering. I realize Karlos had nine TDs last year, but Trent Richardson had 12 total TDs his rookie year and look how he panned out. For me, Karlos didn't look like the dominant runner a lot of people on this board think he is. When he finally got to start, he didn't play very well but when Gillislee started, he played exceptionally. To me Karlos is nothing but a change of pace back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolishDave Posted October 6, 2016 Share Posted October 6, 2016 I hate to say it because he played well last year, but I feel like it was kinda a fluke. I honestly like Gillislee better than Karlos. Gillislee has great vision which I don't think Karlos does. Karlos isn't a power back and isn't a shifty back. He's just a tweener it seems like. I don't understand why they are bringing him back. Did he even play special teams when he was here? He is a power back. And last season he proved to be a beast to tackle. If he could play with the same zest as last year, even with his added weight, he would be an asset to this team and would score touchdowns for this team. Having said all that, I think it is time the Bills organization started taking personal character into consideration when signing players. So I say kick him to the curb and let him stay there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWATeam Posted October 6, 2016 Share Posted October 6, 2016 I'd like to see Karlos in the wildcat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted October 6, 2016 Share Posted October 6, 2016 Thank christ Amen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 6, 2016 Share Posted October 6, 2016 @kevinmassare Sounds to me that the market for Karlos has heated up even more than he thought. It was said to me he'd declined Buffalo for Jax. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Player Available Posted October 6, 2016 Share Posted October 6, 2016 Or did they? His GF savage @DakotaaaRayyy 16m16 minutes ago hey you guys.. this is the gods honest truth. buffalo cancelled los' trip for this weekend. waiting for a rescheduled visit. savage @DakotaaaRayyy 12m12 minutes ago this visit was strictly a workout. no talk of resigning was ever mentioned. This is a good thing. the omelet station at OBD could get tense if Karlos and the ryan twins all get there at the same time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yungmack Posted October 6, 2016 Share Posted October 6, 2016 In, I think, the second pre-season game I started getting nervous about the RBs, including J. Williams, watching them get knocked around, caught behind the line, easily tackled. not breaking through. One after the other. They seemed small, and light. And I kept wishing Karlos was there, that he'd taken his career seriously and was the "thunder" to McCoy's "lightning." I think his absence (or that of a similar back) has hurt the offense all season long. If he has indeed gotten himself in shape, and made some mental changes, I'd welcome him back in a heartbeat. And if he adds what he did last year, I believe the Bills are suddenly a team to reckon with going forward. Fingers crossed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r00tabaga Posted October 6, 2016 Share Posted October 6, 2016 Cut Bush, Williams, and Salas to start making room for the new guys. Maybe you can put Williams in the PS. But he has shown nothing to make anyone believe he is a better back than Karlos. I agree with all of that. J. Hunter & KWill> G Salas & R.Bush....put JWill on PS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted October 6, 2016 Share Posted October 6, 2016 @jchenelly The #Bills do not have any immediate plans to re-sign Karlos Williams, despite other reports. #BillsMafia #BuffaloBills The word "immediate" is interesting... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted October 6, 2016 Share Posted October 6, 2016 Depth is always a good thing, he is familiar with the system and the team. Hopefully as a change of pace short yardage back he works out. But I like McCoy getting 70% of the snaps, I don't think they need to use Karlos in a more full time role. McCoy is a stud run him as the primary back no need to run him to the ground but he seems to be rolling right now and until he shows signs of wear and tear you don't need to force Williams into the rotation more than as a solid backup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted October 6, 2016 Share Posted October 6, 2016 (edited) In, I think, the second pre-season game I started getting nervous about the RBs, including J. Williams, watching them get knocked around, caught behind the line, easily tackled. not breaking through. One after the other. They seemed small, and light. And I kept wishing Karlos was there, that he'd taken his career seriously and was the "thunder" to McCoy's "lightning." I think his absence (or that of a similar back) has hurt the offense all season long. If he has indeed gotten himself in shape, and made some mental changes, I'd welcome him back in a heartbeat. And if he adds what he did last year, I believe the Bills are suddenly a team to reckon with going forward. Fingers crossed. Karlos is actually a slow starter but built momentum when he got a few steps going forward. Susceptible to being tackled in the backfield and a lousy short yardage guy. Gillislee is the more effective short yardage guy and has been remarkably consistent. The area where Karlos is surprisingly good is as a receiver. Correction.........thread is ALL rumor Edited October 6, 2016 by #BADOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaaadThingsMan Posted October 6, 2016 Share Posted October 6, 2016 Wonder if they brought him in and weighed him, gave him a physical(worked him out) and decided he hadn't met their requirements for re-signing him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philo Posted October 6, 2016 Share Posted October 6, 2016 Wonder if they brought him in and weighed him, gave him a physical(worked him out) and decided he hadn't met their requirements for re-signing him? He never came in. The workout was scheduled for tomorrow but is now reportedly cancelled. However, it seems as though it may be rescheduled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted October 6, 2016 Share Posted October 6, 2016 Or did they? His GF savage @DakotaaaRayyy 16m16 minutes ago hey you guys.. this is the gods honest truth. buffalo cancelled los' trip for this weekend. waiting for a rescheduled visit. savage @DakotaaaRayyy 12m12 minutes ago this visit was strictly a workout. no talk of resigning was ever mentioned. Interesting, I wonder if that's 'cuz of the hurricane that they cancelled or ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 6, 2016 Share Posted October 6, 2016 @BF_insiders Not sure if everyone is on board with bringing 29 back in, source tells me that some are hesitate with bringing him back @BillsFanaticsBF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted October 6, 2016 Share Posted October 6, 2016 @viccarucci Hearing from team source that chances of #Bills re-signing Karlos Williams are "50-50." Haha. He read this thread and figured it's an even bet. Some solid reporting!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mead107 Posted October 6, 2016 Share Posted October 6, 2016 I like the way he runs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Posted October 6, 2016 Share Posted October 6, 2016 Haha. He read this thread and figured it's an even bet. Some solid reporting!! Very funny. I miss the old Vic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTO Posted October 6, 2016 Share Posted October 6, 2016 It could very well be that he is in Florida. If so, all flights are cancelled. Interesting, I wonder if that's 'cuz of the hurricane that they cancelled or ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChevyVanMiller Posted October 6, 2016 Share Posted October 6, 2016 @BF_insiders Not sure if everyone is on board with bringing 29 back in, source tells me that some are hesitate with bringing him back @BillsFanaticsBF I would think the only opinion that should hold any weight is that of Anthony Lynn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted October 6, 2016 Share Posted October 6, 2016 @kevinmassare Sounds to me that the market for Karlos has heated up even more than he thought. It was said to me he'd declined Buffalo for Jax. Would make sense, better opportunity to play in Jax. They have RB issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted October 6, 2016 Share Posted October 6, 2016 LOL the issues for Florida are very real. My tow truck companies h @BF_insidersNot sure if everyone is on board with bringing 29 back in, source tells me that some are hesitate with bringing him back @BillsFanaticsBF The talent is evident I dont want Mike Gilaslee riding the bench in favor of a guy that cant stay on the field Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihilarian Posted October 6, 2016 Share Posted October 6, 2016 http://www.rotoworld.com/headlines/nfl/343928/bills-cancel-workout-with-karlos-williams?ls=roto:FA:topheadlines Wow. ESPN's Adam Schefter made it seem like Williams' return to Buffalo was a done deal earlier today. Vic Carucci of the Buffalo News backtracked somewhat, predicting Williams had a "50-50" chance to re-sign with Buffalo. Now the Bills aren't even going to work him out. We're not sure what's responsible for the abrupt change of plans, though it's understandable why the Bills would be hesitant to bring Williams back. He was embarrassingly out of shape at OTAs this summer and just came off a four-game suspension for violating the league's substance abuse policy. Where Williams goes from here is anyone's guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincec Posted October 6, 2016 Share Posted October 6, 2016 http://www.rotoworld.com/headlines/nfl/343928/bills-cancel-workout-with-karlos-williams?ls=roto:FA:topheadlines Wow. ESPN's Adam Schefter made it seem like Williams' return to Buffalo was a done deal earlier today. Vic Carucci of the Buffalo News backtracked somewhat, predicting Williams had a "50-50" chance to re-sign with Buffalo. Now the Bills aren't even going to work him out. We're not sure what's responsible for the abrupt change of plans, though it's understandable why the Bills would be hesitant to bring Williams back. He was embarrassingly out of shape at OTAs this summer and just came off a four-game suspension for violating the league's substance abuse policy. Where Williams goes from here is anyone's guess. More good work by the media. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 KW is cheaper than RB & Tate has made RB expendable. No he is NOT cheaper - Reggie Bush is a vested veteran and gets paid even if cut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALLEN1QB Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 Crazy day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScrewyLouie Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 That's huge news!! Hopefully, he's back in shape. Maybe they'll bring back Manny Lawson as well. Why would you bring back Manny Lawson when Shaq Lawson is due back in a couple weeks??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stl Bills Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 Why would you bring back Manny Lawson when Shaq Lawson is due back in a couple weeks??? Too balance out all the Williams you need at least a couple of Lawsons....duh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChasBB Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 ... and this is why Rex smartened up and didn't waste a roster spot on a 2nd kicker this season. Thank goodness for that - provides some flexibility to bring guys in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyC81 Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 Actually, the workout will take place this Friday (10-7-16). Why would they need a workout? Just look at him and see if he's still carrying too much weight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 (edited) Why would they need a workout? Just look at him and see if he's still carrying too much weight. Eddie Lacy showed up carrying too much weight, but evidently pretty fit underneath. I heard in response to my question that Karlos was not only fat, he was way out of condition. I would think it matters if he's put himself in improved physical condition, not just if he's lost some weight. Edited October 7, 2016 by Hapless Bills Fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 I hate to say it because he played well last year, but I feel like it was kinda a fluke. I honestly like Gillislee better than Karlos. Gillislee has great vision which I don't think Karlos does. Karlos isn't a power back and isn't a shifty back. He's just a tweener it seems like. I don't understand why they are bringing him back. Did he even play special teams when he was here? Last year wasnt a fluke- Karlos is a football player through and through. He just needs to get his head on straight. And furthermore, im not sure what your watching but he can cram it between the tackles. He also runs great routes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 So what's the latest news? Work out today or not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 (edited) ... and this is why Rex smartened up and didn't waste a roster spot on a 2nd kicker this season. Thank goodness for that - provides some flexibility to bring guys in. Rex decided not to waste a roster spot on a 2nd kicker because of the rule changes and the announcement that they would carry through the season instead of being reevaluated Week 4. J Williams has only had like 5 snaps and had broken ribs for the 1st few weeks. Cut him some slack his college tape is !@#$ing crazy!! It would be a mistake to let him go now. Theres other people you can cut for Dareus, Shaq, and Karlos besides Salas and J williams. In fact I bet you they wont cut J WIll or Salas. McFly where did gouge on the broken ribs come from? He has not been listed on the injury report. Edited October 7, 2016 by Hapless Bills Fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 So what's the latest news? Work out today or not?Karlos Fiancée tweeted he wants "what he's worth" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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