HIT BY SPIKES Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 Just now, ShakAttack said: when did the Bills get a 3rd? I missed it as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 Just now, HIT BY SPIKES said: NFL.com has not updated with a 3rd pick. The Bills officially announced we got pick 95 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rochesterfan Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 Just now, ShakAttack said: when did the Bills get a 3rd? The KC trade - they got pick 95 for their later 4th round pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwai San Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 4 minutes ago, That's No Moon said: He did? "Shakir averaged 36 yards per game last year, so I wouldn't point to him as this major coup of a pick. Buffalo's best draft pick used on a WR in 6 drafts is a 4th on Davis. And he was so good they let him walk in UFA. McBeane have found most of their production from UFA or trades at the position in a league which prioritizes them in the draft." OK I misread that some after a few beers too many waiting for 1st round pick that didn't happen.....but plenty of other GM's have gone the same route, UFA and Trades ie Howie Roseman, Miami GM, PAINS me to type that, and more that I am too lazy to research for. Beane is NOT the only one to try proven players versus crap shoot draft picks. With a position like WR why pick an non proven Diva when you can trade for one and then jettison the for big bucks.....ugh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That's No Moon Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 Just now, Generic_Bills_Fan said: Must be why people are so mad about the trade…they didn’t realize we got anything in return lol I mean, we didn't get a ton, but it's more than zero and Beane clearly had a hardon for that 3rd the league boned us out of. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 1 minute ago, ShakAttack said: when did the Bills get a 3rd? The trade everyone is complaining about from tonight 😂 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SydneyBillsFan Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 2 hours ago, HappyDays said: By the way the trade value matches up exactly perfect by the Rich Hill chart: https://www.drafttek.com/NFL-Trade-Value-Chart-Rich-Hill.asp?RequestTeam=Buf 227 points for both sides. Isn't there meant to be roughly a ten percent 'tariff' to the team facilitating the trade? Beane got fleeced here, pure and simple. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShakAttack Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 2 minutes ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said: The trade everyone is complaining about from tonight 😂 yeah my bad NFL network had posted it as bills getting a 4th. Shoot, I liked it then, and I like it more now. Especially because KC took the receiver I specifically did NOT want Bills to draft. But there was one player that I was dreading more than Worthy and that was Cooper DeJean, who is, unfortunately still in play 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SydneyBillsFan Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 2 hours ago, NyQuil said: Just wait until he trades 32 and we don’t pick tonight. Well played sir! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 (edited) I want McConkey and Javon Baker paired together. I wouldn't mind Malik Washington, whose comp is Steve Smith Edited April 26 by ndirish1978 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
90sBills Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 28 minutes ago, Low Positive said: That's a good point. Worthy is a scheme fit in SF (that's why I'm surprised that Miami didn't take him), but KC is chasing the Tyreek Hill dragon since they traded him. I don't know why, given the fact that they just won two straight SB without him and really could have used a DB, but they really feel that need. BTW, I have KC PTSD as much as anyone, but Worthy gives me John Ross vibes all day. That speed is seductive, but Tyreek is great because he's an elite route runner first and fast second. I remember the entire city of Cincinnati (I live here) begging Marvin Lewis to play Ross more, but when he did he couldn't get open or catch footballs. I mean, if speed and size is all you need to play WR the Bills just need to convince Ely De La Cruz to switch sports. Agreed about Hill. What everyone always overlooks about him is how strong his core is. That guy is strong to go along with his speed. Unless Worthy beefs up I’m not sure he’d last. I wonder if Worthy worked out with Mahomes since Mahomes’ camp is in Texas. That would make sense if they did and Mahomes liked the connection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 21 minutes ago, SydneyBillsFan said: Isn't there meant to be roughly a ten percent 'tariff' to the team facilitating the trade? Beane got fleeced here, pure and simple. LOL. No. The draft chart would then incorporate the tariff into the chart. Fair trade. Pry a dumb one for the Chiefs since they pry could've just sat at 32 and picked Worthy anyways. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills aPHILLYate Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 So we still have the opportunity to get 1 of the WR's whom many prognosticated or even clamored for in rd 1... Are in great shape to add a DT or S... Recouped a 3rd rd pick... Created flexibilty to address numerous positions in one calendar day... Still can double dip at WR... Have ammo to potentially move back into rd 4... Still have the opportunity to come out of this draft with roughly 6 prospects that actually have the chance to make the team in some capacity... I'm convinced that some are/were more interested in seeing who KC would take just to downplay the Bills decisions either way. The rest of the complaint committee is just in their feelings because the specific player they wanted wasn't viewed the same by the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Low Positive Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 4 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: LOL. No. The draft chart would then incorporate the tariff into the chart. Fair trade. Pry a dumb one for the Chiefs since they pry could've just sat at 32 and picked Worthy anyways. They could have, but they perhaps thought that SF would have taken him. That's the only explanation. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWeatherMan Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 The plan here is clear and simple. Beane wants to own the entire 5th round of the draft. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelius Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 I think this is the correct vent thread. We’re simply not smarter than the Chiefs. To even dream so is madness. We should have taken Worthy. Idgaf about small this or that. He’s good enough for Mahomes, he’s good enough for Allen. There’s no need to be creative with this *****. We better get Troy Franklin 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnCoke11 Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 5 minutes ago, Nelius said: I think this is the correct vent thread. We’re simply not smarter than the Chiefs. To even dream so is madness. We should have taken Worthy. Idgaf about small this or that. He’s good enough for Mahomes, he’s good enough for Allen. There’s no need to be creative with this *****. We better get Troy Franklin grrrrrrr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon in Pasadena Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 58 minutes ago, ndirish1978 said: I want McConkey and Javon Baker paired together. I wouldn't mind Malik Washington, whose comp is Steve Smith ^^^ This. I was beginning to think I was the only one who's high on Javon Baker. I just think he's going to be a really good player in the league. JB, McConkey, Shakir & Samuel is a pretty solid receiver room. JA17 can work with that. Especially with Kincaid getting even more involved this year. If Beane somehow swings a deal to bring in someone like Aiyuk, that would be the cherry on top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
just1hugheser Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 29 minutes ago, Nelius said: I think this is the correct vent thread. We’re simply not smarter than the Chiefs. To even dream so is madness. We should have taken Worthy. Idgaf about small this or that. He’s good enough for Mahomes, he’s good enough for Allen. There’s no need to be creative with this *****. We better get Troy Franklin Pretty Much exactly what I was thinking, I mean all he has to do is not be Kadarius Toney and he should thrive with Reid/Mahomes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 I just watched a some interviews with a bunch of receivers. Malik Washington is impressive as hell and I like him as a pick in the 3rd/4th Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meatloaf63 Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 3 hours ago, Bruffalo said: Bills save cap and clearly didn’t want Leggette over who else is available. The move makes a ton of sense. Now you have all day tomorrow to trade for a Vet, trade back again for a big bounty, or just take the guy you want on a cheaper rookie deal then the first round. Tons of advantages to making this move. Yay a meh player instead of a possible difference maker. Lets keep trading down and save more money maybe we can get 5 5th round picks it willl be such great value 👍 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aimee75 Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 Really feel bad for Josh. He is about to turn 28 and The Bills are basically saying "we are letting one of your prime years go to waste" and "hey, Jim Kelly was 30 when The Bills went to their first Super Bowl!! Maybe this will happen for you too!!". This has been the most bizarre off season. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CirclnWagons Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 I was absolutely shredded a few weeks ago for saying after the moves made this was a 7-8 win team at best now. On top of that we waste a prime year from Josh, surrounding him with absolutely nothing and increasing his chances of injury because he has to carry even more weight. Now I’m saying 7-8 is generous. Not only does Beane not get a WR1, he gift wraps a new weapon for our biggest AFC foe? I hear he’s putting together a package of picks we have left to see if he can lure the guy that deflated Brady’s balls out of New England 1 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1ManRaid Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 8 hours ago, GunnerBill said: I had a nap in the afternoon, and I've had 90 minutes before this..... I have coffee. I'll survive. I think. Man you have a LONG time to stay up until the Bills pick... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 I'm glad I didn't stay up to watch this all play out. Okay, on to Round 2! By the way, I think they will surprise everyone and take the corner from Iowa or the DT from Illinois. Boring, either is a quality pick that makes the team better. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 (edited) 5 hours ago, DCOrange said: As much as I adore Deebo, he doesn't make much sense for us. If we go the veteran route and Aiyuk is off the table, Higgins or Sutton make more sense than Deebo IMO. Probably wouldn't trade what Cinci wants for Higgins though. I think the cost for Sutton is probably a good match for what we have now and then I'd like to add a rookie WR tomorrow. What are you willing to pay for Sutton? 5th? 5 hours ago, Cray51 said: Sky Moore was the speed guy taken two years ago who is awful kadarius toney was picked up to be the speedy first round grade receiver to be a stud ross was brought in to see if his speed could amount to somethjng in the tail end of his career the chiefs have struck out on receivers just as often as they have hit. Hill was and is an amazing player. If they have fooled everyone and found a guy of tbat talent again? Credit to them It’s not that they fooled everyone. He was a 1st round wr, that ran the fastest 40 ever. People took that as “he must play like John Ross.” Worthy was an elite WR, for multiple years, at one of the biggest programs in the country. I think that you could have let a lot of guys go to KC and been okay. This wasn’t one of them. Edited April 26 by Kirby Jackson 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 Can someone explain what happened for someone who fell asleep? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BananaB Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: What are you willing to pay for Sutton? 5th? It’s not that they fooled everyone. He was a 1st round we to most that ran the fastest 40 ever. People took that as “he must play like John Ross.” Worthy was an elite WR, for multiple years, at one of the biggest programs in the country. I think that you could have let a lot of guys go to KC and been okay. This wasn’t one of them. Why wasn’t he rated higher when everyone thought he was a 4.3 guy if he is that elite Edited April 26 by BananaB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 3 minutes ago, BananaB said: Why wasn’t he rated higher when everyone thought he was a 4.3 guy if he is that elite I’m sorry, I don’t understand the question? What does “rated” mean (or have to do with anything)? He is a 4.21 guy that was projected as a 1st round pick long before the combine (years even). He was a 3 time all big 12 selection in his 3 seasons. He’s twitchy and obviously has big play ability. He’s a big version of Hollywood Brown (who is now also on the Chiefs). That speed, with Andy Reid, is a nightmare. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 16 minutes ago, boyst said: Can someone explain what happened for someone who fell asleep? I fell asleep during the Bucs pick and missed all of the action. Bills traded back with KC for a 3rd and 7th, then traded with Carolina for a 4th. Here we are at #33 now with three more picks in the bank. On 4/24/2024 at 9:26 AM, H2o said: If we stay put and the Chiefs jump for a WR, then watch the same people saying "we shouldn't move up" claim it was the greatest move ever by an organization constantly beating us out. I called this the other day. Look at the board right now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 6 minutes ago, H2o said: I fell asleep during the Bucs pick and missed all of the action. Bills traded back with KC for a 3rd and 7th, then traded with Carolina for a 4th. Here we are at #33 now with three more picks in the bank. I called this the other day. Look at the board right now I fell asleep at pick 27 right before the Bills. I vaguely remember something about the Chiefs picking in some semi slumber. Figured I missed the bills pick and it was 32 I think. I woke up and thought I heard us trade back twice into round two and realized I was having a nightmare when coach chan gailey, gm marv levy, and Satan were sharing a coffee with me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billzgobowlin Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 6 hours ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said: You ever see a team trade up one spot with the team with the current pick haha I can’t say I’ve ever seen it Happened twice last night 14 minutes ago, H2o said: I fell asleep during the Bucs pick and missed all of the action. Bills traded back with KC for a 3rd and 7th, then traded with Carolina for a 4th. Here we are at #33 now with three more picks in the bank. I called this the other day. Look at the board right now We didn't gain any picks we just moved up from current picks 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 6 hours ago, Warriorspikes51 said: We must be trading for a vet WR Vikes only have 1,5,5 next year go get Jefferson I don’t think that is the message 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhitewalkerInPhilly Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 One thing to consider as I mulled overnight as to why 33 instead of 32: Beane now has 17 hours between rounds. If he can go up 1-2 and get DeJean AND a WR with a pick or two I'd be over the moon 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 46 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: What are you willing to pay for Sutton? 5th? It’s not that they fooled everyone. He was a 1st round wr, that ran the fastest 40 ever. People took that as “he must play like John Ross.” Worthy was an elite WR, for multiple years, at one of the biggest programs in the country. I think that you could have let a lot of guys go to KC and been okay. This wasn’t one of them. also I think a flyer on toney is a completely different conversation 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CNYfan Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 5 hours ago, Ralonzo said: Perception is noise, but noise can also be a weapon. Ask Manuel Noriega. I do think Beane gains within the GM-club by making the deal, without demanding a gouge deal. His willingness to accomodate Veach will presumably lead to his own cachet for moving up or down a little, fairly, to be looked favorably among other GMs. Part of GM'ing is political and making your trading partner look like not a fool is not insignificant. My own strategery for the Bills in this draft was to try to get 4 top-100 picks. There may be fallers or sleepers later but the most useful players in this draft seem to get scarce between 100 and 120. Bills having the chasm from pick 60 to 128, it was imperative for them to gain at least one, preferably 2, additional picks in that Goldilocks zone of players who may be capable of contributing this year. To me, Beane's doing what I would have done to try to marry value and need by using the juice of a higher pick to elevate other picks into that sweet spot - IF the player(s) you've honed in on at the top end are likely to still be available at the trade-down. I also know we are short on the DL and in the defensive backfield. We would like a decent RB to pair with Jimbo Cook. There are WRs available, but the Buffalo Bills need players and it is nice to have players on rookie contracts at this point. The centers are on the board, the G from CT is on the board, a number of nice DBs are on the board, fgs Newton is on the Board! Big Baller is doing fine. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niagara Dude Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 Pegula should have made changes after 13 secs, this is turning into a clown show. You have Beane handing massive contracts to older players creating one of the worse cap situations in the NFL and his good buddy McDermott who cannot win in the playoffs. To be clear the Bills gave up having a 5th year option for any first rounder so they could move up from a 4th to a 3rd and move up some other pics. They gained no extra picks, Beane is all talk and I'm sorry not interested in trading for a receiver like Aiyuk who wants big money and may not even be a true #1 option. Then we have the cheerleader fans who believe Mcdermott and Beane deserve to be paid massive money and and have jobs for life for ending the drought and being a consistent playoff team with a top 3-4 QB 2 hours ago, Aimee75 said: Really feel bad for Josh. He is about to turn 28 and The Bills are basically saying "we are letting one of your prime years go to waste" and "hey, Jim Kelly was 30 when The Bills went to their first Super Bowl!! Maybe this will happen for you too!!". This has been the most bizarre off season. One of worse offseason ever and teams in our division are getting better 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CNYfan Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 Does this day remind one of 2017, just a bit. Everybody here knows better than the Big Baller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 (edited) 4 minutes ago, CNYfan said: Does this day remind one of 2017, just a bit. Everybody here knows better than the Big Baller. Lol, are you referring to the time that he traded his 1st round pick, while needing a QB, for arguably the best QB ever? That draft was McDermott though. Edited April 26 by Kirby Jackson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CNYfan Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 Just now, Kirby Jackson said: Lol, are you referring to the time that he traded his 1st round pick, while needing a QB, for arguably the best QB ever? That draft was McDermott though. My bad, I meant 2018, in the aftermath of the QB pick. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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