boyst Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 Should they package a trade that would include this years first, next year's first and second to pick in the top 8 for a WR? 1 2 7 2 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 I voted yes, but even with the 2nd next year in the mix they are not getting to top 8. 3 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 Draft position chart shows the Bills might leapfrog to 15 or 16 but they will not get to top 8 with a 2nd next year. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brand J Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 (edited) Nope, this team has a number of needs. Can’t risk multiple premium picks on the hopes your WR will be *that much* better than any taken after him (which statistically is a 50/50 proposition btw). Even now I’d support a trade back before a trade up. Edited April 3 by Brand J 2 1 5 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 If Beane can get his guy he should. 3 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackbeard Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 (edited) We are entering the teams second window with Allen. We will NEVER see another QB his calibre on this team. Not in this lifetime. GO ALL IN NOW. GET TOP TARGET. Edited April 3 by Blackbeard 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillMafia716ix Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 WR class is very deep. We can still grab a very good WR at 28 instead of giving up draft picks. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Process Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 Before I would have said stay out and take who is left. After the trade, yes absolutely we should move up and we have the ammo. The extra second makes it easier to trade away a top pick next year. 1 + 1 for BT 1 +1 +2 for Rome Time to make a splash 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentEdwardsCheckDownOn4th Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 1 hour ago, BuffaloBill said: I voted yes, but even with the 2nd next year in the mix they are not getting to top 8. According to the nfl trade chart this year's first and 2nd and next year's first is equivalent to about the 5th pick this year, so it's definitely doable. Heck, they can even trade up by only using the 1st this year and 2 2nd rd picks and still holding on to next year's 1st. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountDorkula Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 Calling my shot. Bears get 2024 1st 2025 1st late rd pick Bills get 2024 1st #9 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simstim Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 I would like us to, yes. Well, if it means we can get a legit game changer at WR. Don't like our chances though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PBF81 Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 10 minutes ago, Blackbeard said: We are entering the teams second window with Allen. We will NEVER see another QB his calibre on this team. Not in this lifetime. GO ALL IN NOW. GET TOP TARGET. We absolutely need to focus on offense until we have the juggernaut that we should have with Allen at QB. Having said that, just use the picks we have. Beane's got us in enough of a hole already, and as others have said, the difference between a WR taken before 28th and at 28th, other than for Harrison who we have zero chance of landing under any circumstances, could very well be negative, but marginal otherwise if the team does it's homework. Just not another second-tier prospect please. Time to shift the focus from McD's pet project D to the O. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 No. Not at that cost. I can see a small 2-3 spot hop. But many of the moves being made have appeared to be geared to the 2025 off season. I think we see how the draft falls, hold onto those resources and select a WR this year in the first 2 days. I don't think the trade changes the urgency, despite the knee-jerk reaction it will create for fans 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimer1960 Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 I am still not interested in parting with next year’s first or 2nd round picks. Maybe trade next year’s 3rd and one of our fourths to get a 3rd this year. 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msw2112 Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 It's a risky proposition. Any draft pick could be a bust, so despite the glaring need at WR, I think they're better off keeping what they have and picking 2 WRs in the draft. It's a deep draft for WRs. 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 3 hours ago, boyst said: Should they package a trade that would include this years first, next year's first and second to pick in the top 8 for a WR? Trade up? Yes. Trade all of THAT to get into the top 8? Heck no. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountDorkula Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 Better Idea trade 28 for Higgins or Aiyuk trade a 2nd this year and a 25 1st for a 24 1st and grab Thomas Jr from LSU. profit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 Don't be scared because the Sammy Watkins trade didn't work out. Look at the Julio Jones trade, which DID work out. Send a package of picks (including this year's and next year's 1st, plus a future 2nd and 4th, or whatever the value chart dictates) to Chicago for the 9th pick. Draft Rome Odunze. Allen has a blue chip, franchise WR on a cost controlled deal for five years. A top playmaker who can grow with Allen and be the driving force in this passing game for years to come. 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 If Brian Thomas JR falls to #20-#23, it’s possible. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 1 hour ago, BuffaloBill said: Draft position chart shows the Bills might leapfrog to 15 or 16 but they will not get to top 8 with a 2nd next year. What about first this year and our first next year? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweats Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 I've got a feeling that this years draft is going to be something special. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJB Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 I’m ok with whatever route they choose. Be right, that’s all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmur66 Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 I’m no draft expert and don’t know anything about the prospects but the Bills need an elite receiver to replace Diggs. If that is what it takes to draft “the guy” then I say YES! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 In order to trade up you have to find a team willing to trade down all the way to 28. It would take more than the normal value chart to convince a team to not draft a potential all-pro type player in order to pick in the 20's the next 2 seasons. You would have to sweeten the pot 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 Take a WR at 28… and then use the Diggs pick to move up to Top 40 and take another… This could result in McConkey and Legette 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 4 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said: Take a WR at 28… and then use the Diggs pick to move up to Top 40 and take another… This could result in McConkey and Legette Legette is a boom or bust prospect, same goes for Mitchell. At this point I’m hoping we trade up for Brian Thomas Jr.. He’s a true #1. Add someone like Troy Franklin, Xavier Worthy, Ja’Lynn Polk, Burton or Pearsall in RD2. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 1 minute ago, Victory Formation said: Legette is a boom or bust prospect, same goes for Mitchell. At this point I’m hoping we trade up for Brian Thomas Jr.. He’s a true #1. Add someone like Troy Franklin, Xavier Worthy, Ja’Lynn Polk, Burton or Pearsall in RD2. I’m not trading the 1st Round pick in 2025 though … That might end up a bit higher then people might be thinking if things start going off the rails Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 5 hours ago, boyst said: Should they package a trade that would include this years first, next year's first and second to pick in the top 8 for a WR? Yes I thought that they might before this deal but they absolutely should. Getting a stud, number 1, on a rookie deal is imperative. You’ll need another guy in the mid rounds as well. Something like Odunze and Baker or something like that would be nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 2 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said: I’m not trading the 1st Round pick in 2025 though … That might end up a bit higher then people might be thinking if things start going off the rails Our roster is still elite. When Josh Allen is your QB, you’re going to the playoffs. We may need some help at WR but we still have Samuel, Kincaid, Knox, Shakir, Cook and it looks like Beane is about double down on WR in the draft. I am not even remotely worried. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No_Matter_What Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 I am really puzzled by number of fans who are willing to sell the farm for massive trade up. I for one want to stay put and take the best WR available (or BPA if he is clearly graded above best WR), or maybe make a small trade up for Thomas if he falls, but other than that - stay where you are and get a good player there. Price for top 10 pick is too steep for us. I also want to keep next years pick we just got from Texans. The more players you draft the higher chance that you actually hit. 3 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not at the table Karlos Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 (edited) 2 hours ago, CountDorkula said: Calling my shot. Bears get 2024 1st 2025 1st late rd pick Bills get 2024 1st #9 Would take two 2nds as well. Two 1sts, two 2nds and a mid-late pick should get you to falcons pick. That’s using older draft value chart and assuming the first in 2020 is the same spot and devalued a round. Edited April 3 by Not at the table Karlos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 1 minute ago, Victory Formation said: Our roster is still elite. When Josh Allen is your QB, you’re going to the playoffs. We may need some help at WR but we still have Samuel, Kincaid, Knox, Shakir, Cook and it looks like Beane is about double down on WR in the draft. I am not even remotely worried. I don’t expect them to stink … but it’s not out of the question with a lot of reliance on a couple of rookie WRs and Kincaid and Shakir Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 16 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said: Take a WR at 28… and then use the Diggs pick to move up to Top 40 and take another… This could result in McConkey and Legette Well, I'd be good with a trade up for one of the top 3, and a somewhat less expensive trade up for Thomas, but if they go the combo route, this is the one I like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billl Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 13 minutes ago, KDIGGZ said: In order to trade up you have to find a team willing to trade down all the way to 28. It would take more than the normal value chart to convince a team to not draft a potential all-pro type player in order to pick in the 20's the next 2 seasons. You would have to sweeten the pot Beane has painted himself into a corner similar to what he did two years ago. Everyone knows he needs a WR just like everyone then knew he needed a CB. If he tries to move up into the top 10, it’s for Odunze. If he tries to move up into the top 15-20 range, it’s for Brian Thomas. The team on the other end of the phone knows this and would be immediately calling every GM in need of a WR trying to drive the price up. If I’m Pegula, I’d sooner fire Beane than let him mortgage the future for a #1 WR on this team. They’ve had a #1 WR for the past several seasons and couldn’t get it done. This team isn’t a rookie WR away from being championship level, and there’s no chance in hell I’m letting Beane try to save his job at the expense of the team’s future. If anything, I’m nailing Allen’s feet to the floor and then trading away everything that isn’t nailed down for future picks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostbitmic Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 I'm not so sure you'll get one of the top 3 WR without trading up to #6. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 Just now, Dr. Who said: Well, I'd be good with a trade up for one of the top 3, and a somewhat less expensive trade up for Thomas, but if they go the combo route, this is the one I like. I think the move into the Top 8 from 28 is highly unlikely … they need two guys now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brand J Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 3 minutes ago, No_Matter_What said: I am really puzzled by number of fans who are willing to sell the farm for massive trade up. I for one want to stay put and take the best WR available (or BPA if he is clearly graded above best WR), or maybe make a small trade up for Thomas if he falls, but other than that - stay where you are and get a good player there. Price for top 10 pick is too steep for us. I also want to keep next years pick we just got from Texans. The more players you draft the higher chance that you actually hit. Crazy to me too. Higher draft position does not equate to “better player.” If it did, if players selected higher were better 80% of the time than ones selected after them, then sure, go up and get the prospect who can’t miss. That’s not even remotely true as we all know. The only thing you’re guaranteed by moving up is less picks to hit on an impact player. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 1 minute ago, Aussie Joe said: I think the move into the Top 8 from 28 is highly unlikely … they need two guys now I think it is unlikely as well. Something like McConkey and Legette is more achievable. I've been high on both of them, so I'd be happy to see that happen. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDH Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 With how deep this class is I don’t want them spending the assets necessary to move that far up but I’d be all for double dipping at the WR position in rounds 1 and 2. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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