WotAGuy Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 54 minutes ago, Punching Bag said: I hope not. Not time to add expensive contracts. All it takes is one injury and significant part of cap gone. Bah! Those things NEVER happen!! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnCoke11 Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 9 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: Why do people call things flops whenever people get hurt You can’t forecast that Beanes fault Hynes got ran over with a jet ski. Beane should of forecasted that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCofNC Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 Makes sense, he’s a nice piece, but basically what Cook is and some return ability. As much as I like him on the team, not at 5M. If he’s back for 1.5 or so, I’m good with it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 10 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: Why do people call things flops whenever people get hurt You can’t forecast that You can't forecast anything like that. This is true. I still think a lot of the lack of usage is on Dorsey for not getting him SOME kind of small roll. Either way, with the production the Colts ended up getting from Moss this year...I'll say we're square from the Hughes/Sheppard trade before that😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 1 hour ago, strive_for_five_guy said: Great news for all. Hines can focus on his passion for jet skiing now too. He ought to be safe jockeying one of these. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 Was excited to see him in this O as strictly a playmaker Guess his age and this injury , he was not worth it He still has 1 of the greatest plays in Bills history with a kick return TD the play after Hamlin situation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donuts and Doritos Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 15 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: Why do people call things flops whenever people get hurt You can’t forecast that He wasn't that great before he got hurt. Didn't contribute much to the offense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 By Bills releasing Nyheim Hines the Bills are giving him ammo to his legal team will pursue legal action against those he believed were responsible for the crash that injury impacted him financially. He made significant impact on special teams and because he was traded mid-season he did not have time to be integrated into offense. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASabresIUFan Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 Beane will probably now sign him to a futures contract, let him come to camp, and see where he is at physically. If he is healthy and has a good camp, then you keep him for a veteran minimum contract, if not he can do the practice squad and rehab there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 Pretty sure Hines is happier than everyone here. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ControllerOfPlanetX Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 2 hours ago, Donuts and Doritos said: Wow! What's this cost us in dead cap? What a flop of a trade. Hines-sight is 20/20. 1 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bills6969 Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 Ok so cook is only RB on the team with contract. Hopefully we resign Johnson. We‘ll almost certainly will draft one 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 28 minutes ago, bills6969 said: Ok so cook is only RB on the team with contract. Hopefully we resign Johnson. We‘ll almost certainly will draft one I’ll be completely honest. If beane and co spend anything higher than a 5th on an RB, I will call for him to be fired. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benderbender Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 (edited) Maybe now we can finally find out the real timeline of events. The initial news didn’t make sense, they back tracked it to kind of fit an odd narrative. First NyNy was hit by someone, then he was moving but not fast, then he was idle sitting still gassing up. I forgot what the official redacted story was because it didn’t make sense anyway. Especially the part where he was hit directly in the ACL which is odd to say the least. Edited March 3 by benderbender Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 Bummer. Hines has been one of my favorite players in the league for while. Was hoping it would work out 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 (edited) 3 hours ago, Donuts and Doritos said: Wow! What's this cost us in dead cap? What a flop of a trade. He did win the Patriots game for us 2 seasons ago! There's that. 1 hour ago, Gugny said: Pretty sure Hines is happier than everyone here. And you know this how? Cite your sources. 😏 1 hour ago, Donuts and Doritos said: He wasn't that great before he got hurt. Didn't contribute much to the offense. But he singlehandedly won Bills a game against the Patriots. Doesn't that count? Edited March 3 by ExiledInIllinois 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaw66 Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 Good luck to him. Got dealt a lousy hand. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjv Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 When Sheftner says, Heines will most likely be at training camp, is he referring to the Bills training camp or camps in general? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 1 hour ago, ControllerOfPlanetX said: Hines-sight is 20/20. So you saying he's got good vision? 😁 1 hour ago, bills6969 said: Ok so cook is only RB on the team with contract. Hopefully we resign Johnson. We‘ll almost certainly will draft one Johnson should be an easy re-sign but think he isn't a RB2, I'd look to add a vet with size or draft a kid on day 3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 3 hours ago, Warriorspikes51 said: Didn’t Beane previously state he told Hines he’d be on the roster? Brandon is a liar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 1 minute ago, Chandler#81 said: Brandon is a liar. A lot of people here hang on every word he says … even when he has shown a number of times that he will say one thing and do another … Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
london_bills Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 3 hours ago, Warriorspikes51 said: Didn’t Beane previously state he told Hines he’d be on the roster? I'm pretty sure he told the media he wouldn't be released Just now, Aussie Joe said: A lot of people here hang on every word he says … even when he has shown a number of times that he will say one thing and do another … Which he is totally right to do Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Romes Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 In retrospect, it seemed to be a blessing in disguise for the O that this high cost special teamer went down. We only fumbled one kickoff all year, and we were able to play bigger #2 and 3 backs to complement Cook. Harty’s one play won the division and the 2 seed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 Just now, london_bills said: Which he is totally right to do I got no problem with him… he is just doing his job 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billznut Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 This thread should be merged with the brilliant thread from a few weeks ago on this very subject and how there was NO way the Bills would release him. Forget who started that one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 You guys spend way more time on this cap stuff than I do so I’m interested in what anyone guesses the next two or three moves will be. Put another way, if Mc Govern and Hines were the lowest hanging fruit; whose on the next branch up? Who else gets whacked (not just restructured)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damj Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 2 hours ago, Irv said: This sucks! Pats get three comp picks. Because we cut Hines? Yeah ... sounds about right 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 26 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said: A lot of people here hang on every word he says … even when he has shown a number of times that he will say one thing and do another … Did you read the last line of the tweet? It says he will most likely be brought back for Training Camp. He was "released". But that's just to rip the current contract he has to shreds and bring him back on veteran minimum. Which is the best of both worlds. Frees up the max amount of money we can and still have him like he said we would. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 4 hours ago, Dablitzkrieg said: I had high hopes for that pick up. He seemed exactly what Bills needed (under Brady )in hindsight LOL And he will remain legend for those amazing Returns. best wishes to him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerBillsFan Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 Everyone talking about Beane lying, who says he did? We never got the 100% specifics of the agreement. And as reported,it sounds like he failed a physical. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 2 hours ago, Donuts and Doritos said: He wasn't that great before he got hurt. Didn't contribute much to the offense. Wasn't used that much in the Offense you mean might mean ? 40 minutes ago, The Jokeman said: So you saying he's got good vision? 😁 Johnson should be an easy re-sign but think he isn't a RB2, I'd look to add a vet with size or draft a kid on day 3. Yep need a between the tackles RB who can pick up the pass rush etc Vet 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bills6969 Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 1 hour ago, FireChans said: I’ll be completely honest. If beane and co spend anything higher than a 5th on an RB, I will call for him to be fired. Will Shipley would fit nicely. Think we can get him in the 4th round Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 3 minutes ago, bills6969 said: Will Shipley would fit nicely. Think we can get him in the 4th round If that happens, straight to jail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 This is a Taiwan Jones scenario. Everyone that wanted him gone is celebrating and doing the "I told you so's". Completely ignorning the fact that the release very clearly says he's most likely being brought back for Training Camp. Something that isn't said to the media in an outright "you're gone" release. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 48 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said: A lot of people here hang on every word he says … even when he has shown a number of times that he will say one thing and do another … Just the many multiple of people who say they are going to quit board and don't. With Beane he meant it at time but circumstances change and smart people change when they do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 (edited) 23 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said: Did you read the last line of the tweet? It says he will most likely be brought back for Training Camp. He was "released". But that's just to rip the current contract he has to shreds and bring him back on veteran minimum. Which is the best of both worlds. Frees up the max amount of money we can and still have him like he said we would. “most likely “…let’s see what happens .. He also said a couple of weeks before signing Von Miller not to expect any free agency splashes… I don’t have a problem with him not always telling the truth about what he is planning to do… it’s part of the game … my issue is with people here pointing to what he says and trying to use this as some type of evidence about the future plans .. In relation to Hines… I hope he recovers from his injury and plays again on this team …I have always thought he could be an asset to this team with his returning ability and catching passes out of the backfield .. Edited March 3 by Aussie Joe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 Such is the story of fringe guys on the roster, when belt tightening is a priority, these sort of moves should surprise no-one, is it Harty or someone else? Who’s next…, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 3 hours ago, BillsFanForever19 said: Interesting! I knew that he wasn't going anywhere, but I figured it would be a restructure. This sounds like they decided he's vet minimum and that the only way to do that was to rip up his contract completely and re-sign him to a new deal. Good move. Though i'd update the title to "Hines Released - Most Likely to Return". People celebrating his being gone and skipping over that he'll most likely be back. I think "should be back for training camp" is for 1 of 32 teams who sign him, not likely the Bills 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boater Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 2 hours ago, Punching Bag said: By Bills releasing Nyheim Hines the Bills are giving him ammo to his legal team will pursue legal action against those he believed were responsible for the crash that injury impacted him financially. He made significant impact on special teams and because he was traded mid-season he did not have time to be integrated into offense. He will sue. He will prevail in court. But he won't see much of his settlement money. You can't get blood from a stone. It's a long shot that whoever hit him has insurance that will cover this. Even if they have insurance, it's likely to be only half a million or less. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 1 minute ago, boater said: He will sue. He will prevail in court. But he won't see much of his settlement money. You can't get blood from a stone. It's a long shot that whoever hit him has insurance that will cover this. Even if they have insurance, it's likely to be only half a million or less. They may be also trying to sue the rental company who rented the vehicle which hit him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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