Kansas City at Buffalo in the Divisional Round!

[dollars 2 donuts]

Josh: 25 of 35, 315 yards, 3 TDs, 8 rushes 58 yards and 1 TD.

 

Cook: 20 carries, 75 yards, 1 TD

 

Ty Johnson: 6 carries, 30 yards

 

485 total yards.

 

Bills 38-21

 

This is the way.

 

Go Bills!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited January 20 by dollars 2 donuts

[Boatdrinks]

22 minutes ago, dakrider said:

Thats the thing!  That game 2 years ago Allen and Gabe Davis couldn't quite match up against Mahomes, Kelce and Hill all three.  Thats 3 hall of famers right there.
Also in that game both QB's ran the ball about same yards, but running backs for KC rushed for 115 yards to Bills 41. That will not be the case this game.

KC is still very dangerous with Mahomes, Kelce, Rashee Rice and Pacheco, but they are NOT any better right now than Allen, Cook, Kincaid, and Diggs as a whole.

They may not be any better, but are they better vs Bills D ( in its current form) than the Bills Offense is Vs Chiefs defense. That’s what will decide the game and it likely will come down to who has the ball last and if Josh can make one or two more plays than Mahomes. 

[Rockinon]

1 minute ago, Boatdrinks said:

They may not be any better, but are they better vs Bills D ( in its current form) than the Bills Offense is Vs Chiefs defense. That’s what will decide the game and it likely will come down to who has the ball last and if Josh can make one or two more plays than Mahomes. 

The Bills have more weapons. This is a boat race the Bills have a clear advantage. I believe it'll be more than just a couple more plays.

[Pokebball]

1 minute ago, Rockinon said:

The Bills have more weapons. This is a boat race the Bills have a clear advantage. I believe it'll be more than just a couple more plays.

I like the resources that Cook and Allen are going to require from the Chiefs defense. The Bills will have to be able to execute and take advantage of that. I expect big days from our TEs

[Scott7975]

1 hour ago, newcam2012 said:

The point is the head to head match ups are important to evaluate. 

 

A previous poster is citing how the Chiefs haven't beaten quality opponents this year.

 

In summary, the head to head match ups are important while the claim of Chiefs losing to quality opponents is worthless. 

 

Hope that clears things up for you sir. 

 

 

 

Its funny how that seems to matter now but in the past it never mattered because it was only regular season.  "Who cares if the Bills beat them in regular season, the Chiefs beat us twice in the playoffs therefor they always will." 

 

My guy, I am fairly certain you used the same "The Bills have not beaten anybody and therefor can't win X game" excuse to talk yourself out of wins before. 

 

It's really this simple. The Bills are a good team.  The Chiefs are a good team.  They both play each other hard.  They both will put everything on the line.  This is the playoffs. The playoff fodder teams are mostly gone.  Its just good teams now.  Games are going to be hard.

1 hour ago, Bigvinny said:

My take 

 

Spector to IR

Klein to active roster

PS call ups. Isabella and Haack.

 

Meh, I know they want a spare receiver but Isabella scares me.  He hasn't shown anything and seems to have Cook like hand skills.  Pretty sure I seen him almost drop a kickoff return last week. My memory is hazy though.

Edited January 20 by Scott7975

[Boatdrinks]

5 minutes ago, Rockinon said:

The Bills have more weapons. This is a boat race the Bills have a clear advantage. I believe it'll be more than just a couple more plays.

I hope so. It would be nice not having to sweat out the 4th quarter the way we always do. 

[Punch]

3 minutes ago, Scott7975 said:

My guy, I am fairly certain you used the same "The Bills have not beaten anybody and therefor can't win X game" excuse to talk yourself out of wins before. 

 

💯 

[Scott7975]

1 hour ago, boyst said:

They can't penalize for throwing ***** on the field. If they do then the KC fans can start throwing it all the time and get fifteen yards penalties all day. The NFL is ######ed but not that ######ed. 

 

Man, I remember as a teenager during the Kelly years, the stadium getting warned and the Bills getting penalized because the crowd was too loud.  I don't put nothing past the zebras even though I agree with what you are saying.

1 hour ago, boyst said:

They don't. 

 

https://www.si.com/extra-mustard/2022/12/23/bills-dolphins-15-yard-snowball-penalty-threat

 

Quote

The Bills’ current five-game winning streak got a bit of a boost from Mother Nature during their 32-29 win at home over the Dolphins in Week 15, as the team and the home fans were energized by a downpour of snow. The flurry got the crowd into such a fervor as to draw the ire of the officials, who made an announcement during the game that Buffalo would be assessed a 15-yard penalty if fans hit anybody on the field with a thrown snow ball.

The crowd eventually settled down. But, as it turns out, the fans could have created quite an interesting scenario if they called the officials’ bluff.

That’s because, as Bills tight end Dawson Knox recalled this week, there wasn’t actually anything the officials could do to penalize a team for fans’ behavior, making the public address announcement an empty threat.

“Apparently, they told coach McDermott or someone, ‘Hey we can’t actually enforce that, we just have to say that for them to stop,’” Knox said on the podcast Green Light with Chris Long. “It was a just say it, to get them to calm down.”

The actual rule book does not cover penalties issued for instances in which fans are throwing things like snowballs onto the field, according to Jay Skurski of The Buffalo News, unless those actions directly impact an in-progress play. So there could have been a penalty if a snow ball, say, caused a player to fumble or fall mid-play.

But for the most part, the referees’ threat amounted to a parent threatening an unruly child to turn the car around on the way to a family vacation.

 

They could penalize something if it affects a play I guess.  Mostly empty threats though it seems.  I think fans hear the warnings and think it can happen.

Edited January 20 by Scott7975

[newcam2012]

1 hour ago, Simon said:

 

The reason I said nevermind is because I knew it would just be more of your weird agenda that didn't make any sense.

Assumption confirmed.

I have no agenda. I'm not that smart to have one. 

[Scott7975]

1 hour ago, Warcodered said:

 

That's awesome guy was my neighbor when I lived in Laramie.

 

Thats awesome.  I had just seen this on Youtube and was going to post it.

[co_springs_billsfan]

1 hour ago, Bigvinny said:

My take 

 

Spector to IR

Klein to active roster

PS call ups. Isabella and Haack.

This, unless Taron and/or Rasul can't go.  Then the puzzle gets much harder 

[Dablitzkrieg]

We can't lose to this guy

[newcam2012]

42 minutes ago, Allen2Moulds said:

I agree with this, and will add that we are weaker at CB, but they are weaker at WR. We have a better oline, and they have a better Dline, but only slightly. In order to win this game, we have to do a better job with protection, than in the first matchup.

I'd like to think the Bills offense is better than the last time they met. Josh is playing better, Kincaid has emerged as a legit weapon. The running game is more diverse with running gap and done concepts. Shakir has become more of a concern for opposing defenses. Knox is back and even Harty looks quicker. 

 

I think the key is the oline. Josh didn't have a lot of time last game. However,bi think Brady has made some solid changes. Allen is getting rid of the ball more quickly. Negating lots of opposing teams pass rush. He's making really good decisions getting rid of the ball quickly. When appropriate he takes his *****. A good example was the seam route TD to Kincaid. 

 

In short, I think the Bills offense is much better, diverse, and in sync than the last meeting. I hope I'm right. 

[TheyCallMeAndy]

1 hour ago, Big Turk said:

 

Their whole team drops the ball.  MVS has dropped 2 long wide open TD passes minimum this year.

 

If it got bad enough the refs would make an announcement warning fans to stop or it would result in an unsportsmanlike 15 yard penalty...but security would likely kick out the offending people before that happened once warned.

The NFL has already came out and said the officials can not do that after officials threatened that in a Bills/Dolphins game few years ago. 

[uninja]

19 minutes ago, Scott7975 said:

 

Man, I remember as a teenager during the Kelly years, the stadium getting warned and the Bills getting penalized because the crowd was too loud.  I don't put nothing past the zebras even though I agree with what you are saying.

 

https://www.si.com/extra-mustard/2022/12/23/bills-dolphins-15-yard-snowball-penalty-threat

 

 

They could penalize something if it affects a play I guess.  Mostly empty threats though it seems.  I think fans hear the warnings and think it can happen.

omg I remember when the NFL tried to penalize the crowd for being too rowdy. That “rule” went over like a wet fart and they got rid of it quick 😂 

[Scott7975]

 

[NewEra]

Shakirs catch and run TD vs Pittsburgh was so filthy.  It should’ve gotten more pub.  
 

I think I’m going to call him Stumps from now on.  Pretty sure his legs are only 9 inches long

23 minutes ago, newcam2012 said:

I have no agenda. I'm not that smart to have one. 

I agree  you can’t help who you are.

[Dan]

53 minutes ago, Simon said:

 

While this is true, it also means that at some point tomorrow he's probably going to make an upside down, one-handed, behind the back catch between three defenders on 3rd/20. 

 

 

It never fails… no matter how crappy the QB or how average the WR…. every game they make 1 or 2 throws or catches that has me shaking my head and wondering… why can’t our receivers adjust and make a catch like that!    
 

Diggs is the only one that occasionally makes that amazing play.  Everyone else… they need the ball placed perfectly. And even then, I’m often surprised when they don’t drop it.  
 

If this teams lacks anything… it’s playmakers that elevate their game and make that seemingly impossible play.  Outside of Josh we have no one on offense or defense that does that consistently. 

[NewEra]

31 minutes ago, Scott7975 said:

 

Man, I remember as a teenager during the Kelly years, the stadium getting warned and the Bills getting penalized because the crowd was too loud.  I don't put nothing past the zebras even though I agree with what you are saying.

 

https://www.si.com/extra-mustard/2022/12/23/bills-dolphins-15-yard-snowball-penalty-threat

 

 

They could penalize something if it affects a play I guess.  Mostly empty threats though it seems.  I think fans hear the warnings and think it can happen.

This Hochuli crew especially.  That horse collar/ intentional grounding vs Philly may have been the worst call I’ve ever seen.  Gabe was literally standing 3 yards away from where the ball landed.  If they didn’t wanted to call the horse collar- I have no problem with that…..but to turn around and throw the grounding flag….. just wow.  That was INSANE

 

i am 💯 worried about the refs

Edited January 20 by NewEra

[ColoradoBills]

7 minutes ago, NewEra said:

Shakirs catch and run TD vs Pittsburgh was so filthy.  It should’ve gotten more pub.  
 

I think I’m going to call him Stumps from now on.  Pretty sure his legs are only 9 inches long

I agree  you can’t help who you are.

 

Shakir needs to get the ball in his hands often tomorrow.

[Saint Douggie]

Let’s pound their fn ass cheeks

[uninja]

5 minutes ago, Dan said:

It never fails… no matter how crappy the QB or how average the WR…. every game they make 1 or 2 throws or catches that has me shaking my head and wondering… why can’t our receivers adjust and make a catch like that!    
 

Diggs is the only one that occasionally makes that amazing play.  Everyone else… they need the ball placed perfectly. And even then, I’m often surprised when they don’t drop it.  
 

If this teams lacks anything… it’s playmakers that elevate their game and make that seemingly impossible play.  Outside of Josh we have no one on offense or defense that does that consistently. 

Bruh, Kincaid has had some ridiculous catches this year. Sherfield’s tip drill TD was bonkers. Shakir has had a couple of batshit catches as well and nice TDs to go with it to boot. This team has weapons, and it’s not just Diggs.

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

KC charter flight UAL 2543 just passing over Cleveland.  Anyone going out to welcome them? 😁

[wppete]

 

[That's No Moon]

Last week I was super calm about the game. I'm in that spot so far this week also. I don't know why, but I like it. Normally, by Saturday I'd be climbing the walls.

[ColoradoBills]

3 minutes ago, That's No Moon said:

Last week I was super calm about the game. I'm in that spot so far this week also. I don't know why, but I like it. Normally, by Saturday I'd be climbing the walls.

 

I feel the same way.  I don't know why but it's not like 2021 or 2022 at all.

[DaBillsFanSince1973]

 

[That's No Moon]

2 minutes ago, DaBillsFanSince1973 said:

 

Loudest I've ever heard was the second half of the comeback game and the building wasn't even full. That game had energy like I've never felt before or since. The momentum flipped in the 3rd quarter and even though we were still down there was this sense that we were going to do it, no matter what. Everybody felt it on the field and in the stands and we willed it to happen.

 

If the Ravens hold serve today, tomorrow will be our last opportunity to do our thing this year. Let it all out, but with confidence, not with trepidation.

[Bermuda Triangle]

 

[Virgil]

59 minutes ago, Dablitzkrieg said:

We can't lose to this guy

Looks like he’s already losing

[chongli]

 

 

[RunTheBall]

3 hours ago, Blackbeard said:

Classy.  
 

And right after he went on record stating what a great fan base Buffalo has.  
 

let’s not be *****. 

You’re right, that wasn’t classy.

 

What I should have said is I hope Kelce catches an ice ball right in the nuts

 

Jesus people lighten up! It’s just a game Focker!

[Doc Brown]

36 minutes ago, wppete said:

 

Reports are that Omenihu and Gay will probably play.  Toney unfortunately won't.

[jcamm1966]

Ravens lose somehow today, Bills might think hovd KC and me field next week . Just let it go and see what happens. I see a ravens blowout, usually when I team blows a team out in WC round they lay an egg the following week

[Draconator]

 

[AZSanta]

49 minutes ago, Saint Douggie said:

Let’s pound their fn ass cheeks

Ass treeks this message is supported by Ronnie Mund

[finn]

2 hours ago, newcam2012 said:

 Don't get me wrong I love Allen. He's special, elite, and can carry a team. However, to say Allen is better is very debatable. I think Mahomes is the heads down the best QB by most fans and football people. It's a stretch to say Allen is better especially since Patrick is dangling two rings while Allen is ring less. The Allen "will to win" vs Mahomes "will to win" comparison is a ridiculous statement. No offense. There is no edge on the will to win. Both are off the charts here. Did you watch Mahomes play on one leg last year? You don't win two rings because of a lack of wanting to win. 

 

For all practical purposes Reid is the offensive coordinator and play caller. Nagy is just a fill in. Reid is probably one of the best offensive minds in the game. Huge edge over an inexperienced Brady. Enough said here. Hopefully, the youngster can match or outperform the willy veteran Chiefs coaching staff. He's done a great job thus far. The task doesn't appear to be too big. 

 

The Chiefs secondary has a huge edge over the Bills depleted secondary. It's not even close. Have to give McD credit on how the D is performing with back ups galore. It's probably McD biggest and most impressive achievement this year. Hopefully, the success continues. 

 

This game may come down to special teams. That's a scary thought since the Bills punter has only one good leg, an inferior replacement, and a FG kicker that's very shaky right now. Huge advantage to Chiefs. 

 

Home field should be a huge advantage. This is where the Bills have the biggest advantage. I don't think anyone can dispute this. The Bills  generally don't lose at home but this game and opponent is a different animal. I ask everyone to look at the home playoff game vs Cinci last year. 

 

Coaching will be huge this game. Reid has the clear advantage here. He wins big games while McD struggles in divisional playoff games and beyond. I think many Bills fans are secretly hoping McD doesn't blow it again. Sorry. However, this year feels different? Maybe that's just my homerism at work. Nevertheless, the monkey is on McD and the Bills. I believe for what it's worth the pressure is on the Bills to win. Thus far, the Bills have handled the pressure down the stretch magnificently. No one should question the toughness and resiliency of this team.  One more time please, please, and please.

 

Bills have a great advantage at the tackles, Chiefs running defense is not good, and the Bills pass catchers are better. The Bills have to take advantage of their strengths. 

 

All in all, this is setting up to be a classic game. A dog fight and heavyweight fight between two teams that know each other well. The Bills players and fans finally get their wish with a home game in Buffalo vs KC. We've been wanting this for years. The Bills management focused on building a team to beat KC. Is it be careful what you ask for or just what the football doctor ordered? 

 

Let's go Buffalo!!! We fans will give it our all to help the team get the W. I would love nothing more than to see Reid's fat ass and Mahomes whining ass march out of Highmark Stadium in their underwear. We haven't forgotten pain of 13 seconds. We haven't forgotten the grim reaper remarks about Mahomes. Sunday is the time for changing of the guard. The time for the Bills to shine! My old law enforcement gun range instructor used to constantly say "nothing to it but to do it." How fitting is that tomorrow?

 

 

Go Bills

Appreciate the detailed post. But I have to call BS on one point, which is the familiar claim that Mahomes is better because he has two rings (MVPs, etc.). I would argue that any of a half a dozen quarterbacks in the league now would have done as well as Mahomes under the same circumstances: throwing to two future HOF receivers behind an elite line with (as you say) one of the best offensive minds in the game calling plays. Can you think of another quarterback who has had all these advantages who has NOT done as well? 

 

No, having watched both, I think Allen is objectively better. As I said, he's bigger, meaning that he can and has broken far more tackles that the smaller Mahomes. He's faster and more athletic, and he has at least as strong an arm and as creative off script. And his stats (if not awards) are comparable to Mahomes'--with inferior receivers, a far inferior line, and inferior play callers. In fact, now that Mahomes no longer has all these advantages (just some of them), we're seeing that he, too, can struggle. 

 

Put it this way: What can Mahomes do that Allen can't do just as well or better, all things being equal? Same receivers, same line, same play calling. Anything? 

[Draconator]

Thurman's wife

 

 

[Punch]

1 minute ago, finn said:

Appreciate the detailed post. But I have to call BS on one point, which is the familiar claim that Mahomes is better because he has two rings (MVPs, etc.). I would argue that any of a half a dozen quarterbacks in the league now would have done as well as Mahomes under the same circumstances: throwing to two future HOF receivers behind an elite line with (as you say) one of the best offensive minds in the game calling plays. Can you think of another quarterback who has had all these advantages who has NOT done as well? 

 

No, having watched both, I think Allen is objectively better. As I said, he's bigger, meaning that he can and has broken far more tackles that the smaller Mahomes. He's faster and more athletic, and he has at least as strong an arm and as creative off script. And his stats (if not awards) are comparable to Mahomes'--with inferior receivers, a far inferior line, and inferior play callers. In fact, now that Mahomes no longer has all these advantages (just some of them), we're seeing that he, too, can struggle. 

 

Put it this way: What can Mahomes do that Allen can't do just as well or better, all things being equal? Same receivers, same line, same play calling. Anything? 

 

Not to discount Mahomes, but to your point: Eli Manning also has 2 rings. I certainly wouldn't take him over Josh Allen.

[CaliBills]

20 minutes ago, Bermuda Triangle said:

 

 @FilthyBeast You sure are something else lol