margolbe Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 NFL Network is reporting that Josh is banged up after the last game. Hopefully he will be good to go on Sunday. But this raises a key issue -- do you want Kyle Allen starting a game? Given the way Josh plays, its only a matter of time before he gets a injury that has him sitting on the sidelines for a while. We all saw this year that a capable backup can take you pretty far. We need to be in a better position next year. 1 1 2 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 Draft one in like rd 4-5 and keep him for the foreseeable future. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PBF81 Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 1 minute ago, margolbe said: NFL Network is reporting that Josh is banged up after the last game. Hopefully he will be good to go on Sunday. But this raises a key issue -- do you want Kyle Allen starting a game? Given the way Josh plays, its only a matter of time before he gets a injury that has him sitting on the sidelines for a while. We all saw this year that a capable backup can take you pretty far. We need to be in a better position next year. Pitch it to Josh, we're told that he makes the backup QB decisions. 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 Biggest game in multiple decades coming up on Sunday night and we are to discuss next year’s backup QB? 1 2 10 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 They got a lot of needs, and only so much cap space and draft picks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YattaOkasan Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 While he can and does get beat up in a way that affect his play. Hes been available better than any of his peers. Really insane the way he keeps going with the way he runs. would love a better back up but it has to come via the draft as @mrags said cause we cant really afford a proven one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 5 minutes ago, margolbe said: NFL Network is reporting that Josh is banged up after the last game. Hopefully he will be good to go on Sunday. But this raises a key issue -- do you want Kyle Allen starting a game? Given the way Josh plays, its only a matter of time before he gets a injury that has him sitting on the sidelines for a while. We all saw this year that a capable backup can take you pretty far. We need to be in a better position next year. Define “capable backup”? Who did you have in mind? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zow2 Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 Do we know what Shane Buechele can do yet? He has a skill set that includes some athletic ability to get out of trouble. But yeah, we don't have a Minshew or Flacco sitting here. I don't trust Kyle Allen much. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boater Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 We don't know what we have in Kyle Allen. He has yet to throw a pass in a regular game situation. All he has done in his garbage time snaps is hand off to a rusher, or kneel down. I do admit to being concerned of having to play him--my memories of his preseason games are pretty frightening. I bet if he threw in a regular season game that it would be a sphincter tightening experience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 They cost a lot of money. Plus we can always sign Joe Flacco off the couch. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eSJayDee Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 Certainly having a proven, capable backup is desirable. However, given our dire cap situation, & the desire to retain some quality FAs, I think it's a luxury we can't afford. Or at least we need to put our resources to player(s) that are definitely going to contribute rather than likely sitting on the bench. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregg Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 We have have needs at starting positions, if Josh is down we're done anyway. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorquemada Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 I'd be in favor of drafting a project guy in the later rounds, knowing we would have him for 4 years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coldfronts Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 Rather have a #1 WR 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregg Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 What about the Chargers backup QB who almost beat the Bills. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 I'm curious as to what it is that people don't like about Kyle Allen? He's started 16 NFL games, approximately one full season. In that "season" he's thrown for about 4,000 yards with a completion percentage over 62%. He's thrown 26 TDs to 21 INTs (with a small handful of rushing TDs) That puts his career QB rating at 82.2, which is not bad and even seems fairly competent when you consider his starts have come for some very bad football teams. Could the Bills really get a lot better there and is it worth committing limited resources to try? 10 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warrior9 Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 20 minutes ago, BuffaloBill said: Biggest game in multiple decades coming up on Sunday night and we are to discuss next year’s backup QB? This is a bigger game than the KC AFCCG? Interesting. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 Maybe we can sign someone this offseason, like if Taylor Heinicke gets cut by Atlanta we can pursue him? *shrugs* Fact is most teams that have an top 5 QB don't have much when it comes to a back up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorquemada Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 1 minute ago, Simon said: I'm curious as to what it is that people don't like about Kyle Allen? He's started 16 NFL games, approximately one full season. In that "season" he's thrown for about 4,000 yards with a completion percentage over 62%. He's thrown 26 TDs to 21 INTs (with a small handful of rushing TDs) That puts his career QB rating at 82.2, which is not bad and even seems fairly competent when you consider his starts have come for some very bad football teams. Could the Bills really get a lot better there and is it worth committing limited resources to try? Eh, Kyle Allen is more or less a known quantity and I sincerely doubt he'd have a QBR of >80 on this team. To your point though, this is a zero sum game so they have to decide where they're going to go cheap and given that the dropoff from Allen to any realistic backup option, certainly makes more sense to invest elsewhere, i'd argue the OL & WR 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 Tim Tebow 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 I think Josh was banged up before this game… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorquemada Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 12 minutes ago, Bogie_Klinkhammer said: Tim Tebow lol, i am a tebow fan and he would be a lot of fun, or, the tebow of many years ago would. There's no shortage of bulked up QBs at the college level that could come in and play like a bowling ball if we wanted that 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeltaDigital Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 26 minutes ago, Gregg said: What about the Chargers backup QB who almost beat the Bills. this. all day this. he's like a mini josh anyway. DO IT 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 41 minutes ago, mrags said: Draft one in like rd 4-5 and keep him for the foreseeable future. With the extra late picks and what looks a decent class this is the time to swing on a backup QB. 5th round on. And not a Jake Fromm type. Get a guy with some upside not a guy who is undersized and maxed out in college. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 Just now, GunnerBill said: With the extra late picks and what looks a decent class this is the time to swing on a backup QB. 5th round on. And not a Jake Fromm type. Get a guy with some upside not a guy who is undersized and maxed out in college. 💯 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 43 minutes ago, margolbe said: NFL Network is reporting that Josh is banged up after the last game. Hopefully he will be good to go on Sunday. But this raises a key issue -- do you want Kyle Allen starting a game? Given the way Josh plays, its only a matter of time before he gets a injury that has him sitting on the sidelines for a while. We all saw this year that a capable backup can take you pretty far. We need to be in a better position next year. Can we just stop this made up narrative? Literally every other QB in the league has been out the past 2 or 3 years except Allen. Nobody says anything about Lamar and he is injured a lot more and has a very slight frame compared with Allen. Nobody says anything about Hurts and he has missed games in both of the last 2 years. And I don't want to hear any Cam Newton nonsense either. Cams shoulder injury which derailed his career was caused by a car accident not in the field. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 43 minutes ago, margolbe said: NFL Network is reporting that Josh is banged up after the last game. Hopefully he will be good to go on Sunday. But this raises a key issue -- do you want Kyle Allen starting a game? Given the way Josh plays, its only a matter of time before he gets a injury that has him sitting on the sidelines for a while. We all saw this year that a capable backup can take you pretty far. We need to be in a better position next year. Anyone with a room temperature IQ could tell Josh was a little "banged up" at the end of the game, dont need the "breaking news" from NFL Network. And no right now it is not a "key issue", game Sunday is the key issue, not next years backup QB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No_Matter_What Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 44 minutes ago, mrags said: Draft one in like rd 4-5 and keep him for the foreseeable future. Either this or sign best available FA who accepts vet min or max $1.5M. Do NOT invest cap space in backup QB. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 34 minutes ago, ndirish1978 said: We have have needs at starting positions, if Josh is down we're done anyway. Bengals fans probably thought that too, but as it turned out, Browning was pretty damn good and almost got them to the playoffs. I think it's time to draft a day 3 QB to back up Josh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 11 minutes ago, mannc said: Bengals fans probably thought that too, but as it turned out, Browning was pretty damn good and almost got them to the playoffs. I think it's time to draft a day 3 QB to back up Josh. Key word is "almost". All they got for it was a worse draft pick. They never had a chance to win the SB without Burrow, so what's the point? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 1 hour ago, mrags said: Draft one in like rd 4-5 and keep him for the foreseeable future. so if Allen were to get hurt and miss a game or two you want to put a 4th or 5thj round rookie in to take his place??? Teams draft QB's in late rounds when either they don't have an established starting QB or they basically have no other needs for the pick. Think the Bills best plan is to keep doing what they've been doing, sign an experienced QB who is at the point he's not getting a starting QB job in the league. But maybe go for someone with a little better skill set than Kyle Allen. Mitch may be available again or the guy they had last year, but someone of that level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said: so if Allen were to get hurt and miss a game or two you want to put a 4th or 5thj round rookie in to take his place??? Teams draft QB's in late rounds when either they don't have an established starting QB or they basically have no other needs for the pick. Think the Bills best plan is to keep doing what they've been doing, sign an experienced QB who is at the point he's not getting a starting QB job in the league. But maybe go for someone with a little better skill set than Kyle Allen. Mitch may be available again or the guy they had last year, but someone of that level. For anything over vet minimum it’s too much considering the cap strapped hell we will be in. Not to mention, that pretty much no matter what, If Allen goes down we’re not going anywhere anyway. Edited January 2 by mrags 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 4 minutes ago, mrags said: For anything over vet minimum it’s too much considering the cap strapped hell we will be in. Not to mention, that pretty much no matter what, If Allen goes down we’re not going anywhere anyway. …but is is important to have someone you believe can play .500 ball if your starter is only out for a handful of games. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 6 minutes ago, LabattBlue said: …but is is important to have someone you believe can play .500 ball if your starter is only out for a handful of games. With all the resources spent on the defense, I’m sure McD thinks his defense can get him through those rough times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 2 minutes ago, mrags said: With all the resources spent on the defense, I’m sure McD thinks his defense can get him through those rough times. …and he would be wrong. 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 21 minutes ago, Big Turk said: Key word is "almost". All they got for it was a worse draft pick. They never had a chance to win the SB without Burrow, so what's the point? The Bengals were already having a down season (for them) at the time Burrow broke his wrist. If they had won one or two of those early-season games, they'd be in the playoffs right now with Browning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 Just now, LabattBlue said: …and he would be wrong. 😂 He would be. But I’m 100% sure he believes it. he also doesn’t have the cap space to get a vet QB. And he likely isn’t going to find one willing to take vet minimum and be much better than a promising young late rd rookie anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingBoots8 Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 I think you’d have to draft one currently as we can’t sink an excessive amount of money to a backup position due to cap limitations. If Josh misses a week or two we might survive, but any sort of long-term absence is a nail in the seasonal coffin. Better to suck and get a good draft out of it than finish with 8 wins and miss both the playoffs and elite draft talent. We’ve gotta win the Super Bowl this year first, so we can worry about this in April 😏 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 We have way more important needs to address than back up QB…, GO BILLS!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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