Bills-Dolphins Week 18 for the Division! SUNDAY NIGHT GAME

[BuffaloBillyG]

1 minute ago, Warcodered said:

I feel bad for the Player.

 

Not the fans.

Well, for fans like that. There were quite a few Bills of fans making fun of Tua's brain injury last year, even posting jokes about the one against the Bengals where he was twitching. There are fans like that in every fanbase, even ours.

 

I do like to believe it's a very small vocal minority of fans. But the more social media you take in the more negative asshats you'll encounter. 

 

Comments like the one above tell more about the individual person than it does an entire group of fans.

[Comebackkid]

27 minutes ago, vincec said:

I think Fournette would replace Johnson. I think Johnson has played well, but Fournette really looked sharp to me in the few carries he got a couple of weeks ago. If he’s in his old form then he needs to play. I think people are forgetting how good he was/is.

 

I think Murray plays because of his pass blocking and, to a lesser degree, the QB shove.

i thought johnson outplayed cook yesterday.    when they finally brought him in, in the 3rd qtr?   he was avg better than cook.  then cook came back and 

looked like he did earlier.  Not sure why they didnt sprinkle in johnson sooner or why they went back to cook when Johnson was playing better

[Warcodered]

10 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

Well, for fans like that. There were quite a few Bills of fans making fun of Tua's brain injury last year, even posting jokes about the one against the Bengals where he was twitching. There are fans like that in every fanbase, even ours.

 

I do like to believe it's a very small vocal minority of fans. But the more social media you take in the more negative asshats you'll encounter. 

 

Comments like the one above tell more about the individual person than it does an entire group of fans.

I mostly remember fans making fun of and being angry at the Dolphins organization for putting Tua in that position more than anything.

 

Josh would then have a perfect game in the first round of the playoffs, and that's not an exaggeration.

3 minutes ago, Comebackkid said:

i thought johnson outplayed cook yesterday.    when they finally brought him in, in the 3rd qtr?   he was avg better than cook.  then cook came back and 

looked like he did earlier.  Not sure why they didnt sprinkle in johnson sooner or why they went back to cook when Johnson was playing better

Didn't feel like the line was doing as good a job getting space for Cook which he needs to be in peak form, Ty can do better with a bit of a mess since he'll run through people.

Edited January 1 by Warcodered

[balln]

4 minutes ago, Warcodered said:

I mostly remember fans making fun of and being angry at the Dolphins organization for putting Tua in that position more than anything.

 

Josh would then have a perfect game in the first round of the playoffs, and that's not an exaggeration.

Didn't feel like the line was doing as good a job getting space for Cook which he needs to be in peak form, Ty can do better with a bit of a mess since he'll run through people.

Falcons game was incredibly bad weather. Snowy but like windy sleet. 
 

yesterday was perfect weather 

[Steptide]

15 minutes ago, balln said:

Falcons game was incredibly bad weather. Snowy but like windy sleet. 
 

yesterday was perfect weather 

Falcons almost won too. Matt Ryan ran it in for a td, only to get called back on taunting 

[KellyToTasker]

16 minutes ago, balln said:

Falcons game was incredibly bad weather. Snowy but like windy sleet. 
 

yesterday was perfect weather 

How many drops did he have against the Falcons? Falcons have a defense like the Patriots? What other variables are we looking or not looking at? 

[Big Turk]

47 minutes ago, MAJBobby said:

Chubb ACL Tear confirmed 

 

massive blow for 2024 season too. 

 

Ingram gave Dawkins fits his last matchup...caused a sack/fumble of Allen I believe in Miami last year

[EmotionallyUnstable]

1 hour ago, Steptide said:

I hate this game for many reasons - 

I'm so tired of the constant pissing contest between bills and dolphins fans on Twitter 

 

I hate that our fate rests on beating the Dolphins (I don't care how many times we've beat them recently) 

 

I hate that our offense all of a sudden looks like they re hired Dorsey 

 

If we lose, it'll be very fitting for how this season has gone. 

 

We don't deserve to be in the playoffs if we can't beat the Dolphins 

 

Even if we do beat the Dolphins, my confidence in this offense lately is low. They've looked awful and don't know how far they'll get in the playoffs 

 

Sunday is my birthday and the bills could potentially ruin it 

It never really looked different. It’s the same offense with slightly different wrinkles.

 

57 minutes ago, vincec said:

They play so much 2 TE with big personnel and run the ball that he is getting phased out of the offense. Not good.

It effects Diggs around the goal line but not much else. The big packages are taking snaps away more so from Kincaid, Knox and Shakir 

[Warcodered]

6 minutes ago, Big Turk said:

 

Ingram gave Dawkins fits his last matchup...caused a sack/fumble of Allen I believe in Miami last year

We're much stronger on the interior than we were last year.

[WhitewalkerInPhilly]

3 hours ago, Commish said:

You didn't watch the Ravens game yesterday. The Phins came out smoking, looked unstoppable the first two possessions, like the Ravens weren't trying. Then the Ravens shut them down and turned on the offense. Partly a feature of McDaniel's scripted offense.

So...like our game vs the Phins 

[Straight Hucklebuck]

5 hours ago, zow2 said:

 

Yeah but if either Pittsburgh or Jax lose before our game i thought the Bills back in. Then the Miami game would be for the AFC East title. 

Get your best 5 skill players on the field over 80% of the time: 011 personnel.

 

Sorry Knox, Murray, Sherfield - you’re getting 5 breather snaps for the starters.

 

Sorry Diggs you can’t check yourself out.

 

Trent Sherfield is a career journeyman on a vet minimum 1-year deal. He’s not a sacred cow that can’t come out.

 

Latavius Murray is 837 years old, you don’t have a moral obligation to play him.

 

Cut Sherfield and put Shorter in.

 

Cut Murray and bring Fournette up full-time.

[Utah John]

2 minutes ago, WhitewalkerInPhilly said:

So...like our game vs the Phins 

Yeah, that's what I thought.  I had the Ravens-Dolphins game taped and watched it after the Bills game was over.  Miami was matching Baltimore's offense until Tyreek Hill bobbled a sure TD pass, and the Fins had to settle for a FG.  After that the Ravens kept scoring and the Dolphins sort of wilted.    It was really over in the 3rd quarter.  It was just plain stupid for the Fins to keep Tua and Chubb in the game in the 4th.

[finn]

37 minutes ago, Big Turk said:

 

Ingram gave Dawkins fits his last matchup...caused a sack/fumble of Allen I believe in Miami last year

He rag-dolled Spencer Brown in the 13-second game. 

[finn]

2 hours ago, Scott7975 said:

 

Possible.  Diggs has mostly been 80-90% all year until the KC game.  KC he was 79%.  Since then he has been 45, 60, and now 65%.  I don't think its a scheme thing. There must be something nagging him from the KC or Dallas game.

Is it possible he lost his nerve? He got smashed in the Philly game (after the whistle) and body slammed in a game before that, forgot which game. He might be shying away from contact, or maybe he's looking over his shoulder. I had the impression that the "overthrown" ball by Allen wasn't overthrown at all but that Diggs let up or wasn't running at top speed. Something about the way Allen reacted. 

[Scott7975]

1 minute ago, finn said:

Is it possible he lost his nerve? He got smashed in the Philly game (after the whistle) and body slammed in a game before that, forgot which game. He might be shying away from contact, or maybe he's looking over his shoulder. I had the impression that the "overthrown" ball by Allen wasn't overthrown at all but that Diggs let up or wasn't running at top speed. Something about the way Allen reacted. 

 

Not sure but I know there is no way scheme is the reason for diggs to only have 40-60% snap count.  You don't purposely take your best guy off the field that much.  I also don't think it has anything to do with "wanting out of Buffalo" or whatever crap like that.  That leads me to believe he has an injury of some sort.

[Utah John]

2 minutes ago, finn said:

He rag-dolled Spencer Brown in the 13-second game. 

One of the quiet events of this season has been the ascent of Brown.  He was just terrible the last couple of years, but this year you almost never hear his name called in a game, a good sign for an O lineman.  When they do mention him it's for a good block pulling around to the left, an impressive play for a huge man like that.  Part of this no doubt is due to playing next to a competent guard for a change, but he does well with one on one pass blocking too.  Also there's Kromer's teaching to recognize. The O line as a whole is hugely better than last year.  In the Chargers game, I heard Khalil Mack's name once, when the teams were introduced.  After that he vanished.  The Pats D line didn't do much rushing Josh but their overall D was able to plug all the running gaps, which is why Cook didn't do well.  Unlike Murray or Johnson, Cook can't make his own holes -- but unlike Murray or Johnson, if Cook can get through the line he's into the secondary in a flash so that's why he was still playing. If Josh had been playing close to his capability, the Pats' D would have had to back off from the line and that would have opened holes for Cook.  

[zow2]

I feel like the O will score enough in this game, but not some amazing output.  Try to ball control Miami to death.  Have a nice time of possession advantage and stress ball security of course. 

 

Overall though i think this will be a game the D and McDermott will be responsible for winning.  Keep Tyreek in check, control their running game...limit the huge chunk plays, and make Tua uncomfortable.  

[Aussie Joe]

1 hour ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

Well, for fans like that. There were quite a few Bills of fans making fun of Tua's brain injury last year, even posting jokes about the one against the Bengals where he was twitching. There are fans like that in every fanbase, even ours.

 

I do like to believe it's a very small vocal minority of fans. But the more social media you take in the more negative asshats you'll encounter. 

 

Comments like the one above tell more about the individual person than it does an entire group of fans.

Fans from all teams were laughing at Tua over the “ frozen hands “ incident if that’s what you are referring too.., Not trying to say that was the right thing either but incidents were a bit different..it was a pretty unusual thing to see… also there was a lot of controversy that the Dolphins were trying to hush up a previous concussion 

 

I thought the carry on from more than a few Dolphins fans over Milano was pretty classless .. 

[Ralonzo]

1 hour ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

Well, for fans like that. There were quite a few Bills of fans making fun of Tua's brain injury last year, even posting jokes about the one against the Bengals where he was twitching.

 

Oh come on, the Dolphins asked for that. Everybody on earth watching Tua stagger around like dad on Friday night after getting nudged down by Milano knew he was concussed, except for the Dolphins' desperate coaching staff watching that offense rot in the sun like a belly-up carp. They came up with that laughable "back injury" cover and basically gave the NFLPA the finger, and threw Tua back out there to get planked. They knew damn well what they were doing and I'm not cutting them any slack for it.

[dave mcbride]

1 hour ago, Big Turk said:

 

Ingram gave Dawkins fits his last matchup...caused a sack/fumble of Allen I believe in Miami last year

Ingram destroyed Dawkins when he played for Pitt in the 2021 season opener too. But maybe he’s lost a step.

[NewEra]

2 hours ago, vincec said:

I think Fournette would replace Johnson. I think Johnson has played well, but Fournette really looked sharp to me in the few carries he got a couple of weeks ago. If he’s in his old form then he needs to play. I think people are forgetting how good he was/is.

 

I think Murray plays because of his pass blocking and, to a lesser degree, the QB shove.

Do you think fournette looked better than Ty Johnson has?  Lenny looked decent in his handful of attempts, but Johnson has looked very good to my eyes.  

3 minutes ago, dave mcbride said:

Ingram destroyed Dawkins when he played for Pitt in the 2021 season opener too. But maybe he’s lost a step.

He also destroyed Spencer brown in the 13 second game

Edited January 1 by NewEra

[BananaB]

2 hours ago, MAJBobby said:

Chubb ACL Tear confirmed 

 

massive blow for 2024 season too. 

Melvin Ingram always makes a big play against us

[zow2]

8 minutes ago, dave mcbride said:

Ingram destroyed Dawkins when he played for Pitt in the 2021 season opener too. But maybe he’s lost a step.

 

He's been sitting on his couch until the late season call from Miami right?  I can't imagine he will dominate Dawkins or anyone else but we shall see.  We don't want him to flash for 1 game that's for sure.

[TheWei44]

Here's some changes I'd make:  Virtually no offensive snaps for Sherfield - He has been disappointing.  Consider swapping Murray for Fournette.  Murray seems to only be key for tush push but assume Lenny could do that too.  Murray has been underwhelming to my eye.  I've been quietly hoping the old Von would emerge but given how well things went yesterday, I am fine sitting him from here on out.  Bills just need to play a complete game and take notes from Balt game and our earlier season game against them.  

 

Separately, I put our odds of getting into the playoffs in any fashion at 100% minus (40%)*(65%)*(65%) where the three percentages are (Bills loss)(Pitt win)(Jags win), so ~83%.  Just can't have all three bad things happen!!

Edited January 1 by TheWei44

[Mark Vader]

1 hour ago, Straight Hucklebuck said:

Get your best 5 skill players on the field over 80% of the time: 011 personnel.

 

Sorry Knox, Murray, Sherfield - you’re getting 5 breather snaps for the starters.

 

Sorry Diggs you can’t check yourself out.

 

Trent Sherfield is a career journeyman on a vet minimum 1-year deal. He’s not a sacred cow that can’t come out.

 

Latavius Murray is 837 years old, you don’t have a moral obligation to play him.

 

Cut Sherfield and put Shorter in.

 

Cut Murray and bring Fournette up full-time.

Bench Harty and bring up Isabella.

[WideNine]

1 hour ago, Warcodered said:

I mostly remember fans making fun of and being angry at the Dolphins organization for putting Tua in that position more than anything.

 

Josh would then have a perfect game in the first round of the playoffs, and that's not an exaggeration.

Didn't feel like the line was doing as good a job getting space for Cook which he needs to be in peak form, Ty can do better with a bit of a mess since he'll run through people.

 

I think the Pats have a great run defense and did a good job countering our tackle wrap play where we pull Dawkins.

 

To date teams have not been able to stop that very well.

 

Cook has been money running behind those and I watched one where the defender went low on Dawkins and was able to trip him up which kind of blew up that play.

 

The old Belegoat is still a pretty good DC and has a few young defensive players coming on.

 

 

 

 

[Big Turk]

1 hour ago, finn said:

Is it possible he lost his nerve? He got smashed in the Philly game (after the whistle) and body slammed in a game before that, forgot which game. He might be shying away from contact, or maybe he's looking over his shoulder. I had the impression that the "overthrown" ball by Allen wasn't overthrown at all but that Diggs let up or wasn't running at top speed. Something about the way Allen reacted. 

 

You can't actually be serious with this nonsense

14 minutes ago, TheWei44 said:

Here's some changes I'd make:  Virtually no offensive snaps for Sherfield - He has been disappointing.  Consider swapping Murray for Fournette.  Murray seems to only be key for tush push but assume Lenny could do that too.  Murray has been underwhelming to my eye.  I've been quietly hoping the old Von would emerge but given how well things went yesterday, I am fine sitting him from here on out.  Bills just need to play a complete game and take notes from Balt game and our earlier season game against them.  

 

Separately, I put our odds of getting into the playoffs in any fashion at 100% minus (40%)*(65%)*(65%) where the three percentages are (Bills loss)(Pitt win)(Jags win), so ~83%.  Just can't have all three bad things happen!!

 

Sherfield gets no separation and drops the ball on the few times he is schemed open.

[Eastport bills]

Don’t worry about the Jags or Steelers losing, if we can’t beat Miami our playoff run is doomed playing  on the road against better teams KC, Baltimore. The Dolphins can’t beat physical, talented teams. With Chubb, Waddle, Howard out and Tua, Mostert and Hill dinged let’s just go in there and blow their doors off.

[Toledo Bill]

6 minutes ago, Mark Vader said:

Bench Harty and bring up Isabella.

Although Harty has been overwhelming and does have one fumble I think he has fielded every punt in the air cleanly. I would not want to risk a botched punt in this game due to a new punt returner.

Just now, Toledo Bill said:

Although Harty has been overwhelming and does have one fumble I think he has fielded every punt in the air cleanly. I would not want to risk a botched punt in this game due to a new punt returner.

I meant underwhelming 😝

[BRH]

42 minutes ago, dave mcbride said:

Ingram destroyed Dawkins when he played for Pitt in the 2021 season opener too. But maybe he’s lost a step.

 

I believe Dion was getting over a real bad bout with COVID that fall.

[finn]

17 minutes ago, Big Turk said:

 

You can't actually be serious with this nonsense

Andre Reed was a different player in Super Bowl XV after the Giants repeatedly hit him hard. Who knows what goes through football players' heads after big hits, especially after the Damar Hamlin incident? Diggs is human. It's not "nonsense" to consider that he might be fighting a psychological battle after being slammed to the ground gratuitously and violently on two occasions this season.

 

If he's not injured--and McDermott says he's not--how else do you explain his decline in performance and evidently taking himself out the game for long stretches?

[ColoradoBills]

Everything is setup for Sunday night.  I like that.  Bills (and fans) will see what results are from the other games.

Players getting healthy at the right time helps and some banged up and out Dolphins doesn't hurt.

The Bills know the Dolphins well and have a good record against them.

 

Seeing "Prime Time" Josh Allen is all that is needed.  It's a great time to be a fan of the Buffalo Bills!

[Scott7975]

 

[Dr. Who]

1 minute ago, Scott7975 said:

 

Stinger is probably the best case for that injury.

[Scott7975]

8 minutes ago, Dr. Who said:

Stinger is probably the best case for that injury.

 

Yeah.  Sal expanded a little...

 

 

Edited January 1 by Scott7975

[zow2]

16 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said:

Seeing "Prime Time" Josh Allen is all that is needed.  It's a great time to be a fan of the Buffalo Bills!

 

Let’s hope it all comes together for Josh down in Miami.  He’s had some pedestrian passing games for a few weeks (outside the Philly game).  The running and rushing TDs have been the difference maker for him. As Josh says, he considers himself a football player not just a QB.  But we need the good QB to show up this week.

Edited January 1 by zow2

[Peter]

2 hours ago, finn said:

Is it possible he lost his nerve? He got smashed in the Philly game (after the whistle) and body slammed in a game before that, forgot which game. He might be shying away from contact, or maybe he's looking over his shoulder. I had the impression that the "overthrown" ball by Allen wasn't overthrown at all but that Diggs let up or wasn't running at top speed. Something about the way Allen reacted. 

 

We had that feeling as well when we were watching. I was hoping that they would show another angle so that we could see more clearly. 

[Blank Stare]

Year of the damn stinger. 

[Scott7975]

Interesting...

 

Full image...

 

Edited January 1 by Scott7975

[Bookie Man]

If we take care of the football, we win easy.