JoPoy88 Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 1 hour ago, billsfan_34 said: I don’t ever remember Elam being on the injury report? If memory is correct, then I am calling bs. It’s not 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Low Positive Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 All of these moves are cool, but we can't cut any DTs just yet. Somebody has to play on Sunday night. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 6 minutes ago, HappyDays said: I was just told Suh and Ioannidis will both be made official after their physicals. Not sure yet if it will be active roster or PS for them. AWESOME!!!! this is huge 4 minutes ago, FrenchConnection said: All of these moves are cool, but we can't cut any DTs just yet. Somebody has to play on Sunday night. Oliver, Phillips, _____, Ankou Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted November 1, 2023 Author Share Posted November 1, 2023 3 minutes ago, FrenchConnection said: All of these moves are cool, but we can't cut any DTs just yet. Somebody has to play on Sunday night. True. But if they put Elam on IR that opens 1 spot. And adding the 2nd DT to PS would mean we cut one off there. And that guy would get 3 call ups . Not a big deal. I know beating Cincinnati is big, but if we can make it through this week and get these bodies in there it will be huge for helping stack wins. Eventually, I would think at least one of Ford, Settle and Phillips are likely gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 14 minutes ago, HappyDays said: I was just told Suh and Ioannidis will both be made official after their physicals. Not sure yet if it will be active roster or PS for them. Nice! Sounds like Elam to IR could be one corresponding move if they make 1 of them active roster. Not sure what would be done to get a second active roster spot, should that be the plan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 Just now, BuffaloBillyG said: True. But if they put Elam on IR that opens 1 spot. And adding the 2nd DT to PS would mean we cut one off there. And that guy would get 3 call ups . Not a big deal. I know beating Cincinnati is big, but if we can make it through this week and get these bodies in there it will be huge for helping stack wins. Eventually, I would think at least one of Ford, Settle and Phillips are likely gone. Maybe: Elam to IR Ankou to 53 Another move _________? Suh to 53 (or PS) Loannidis to PS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpberr Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 I think the Douglas trade is a great move, and it's not unusual for the player to take a week off - Byard just did the same thing in Philadelphia. I'm disappointed, however, at the lack of urgency/investment in the interior defensive line. Most of these guys are heading to retirement whether they like it or not. Suh is likely the best of the bunch - he did give the Eagles 10 tackles and a sack in 8 games, but that's what Jordan Phillips provides. (2023 - 8 games, 7 tkl, 1 sack) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 I just don't get the mentality of listening to a GM speak, and immediately think "he's trying to trick us!" 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 Nothing about Ed Oliver's Toe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 2 hours ago, balln said: Classic beane - defending his draft picks poor play. ANY injury is the first go to defense. Spencer brown back gabe Davis ankle Ed Oliver back blah blah blah touch grass man, you're tired 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zow2 Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 2 hours ago, Einstein said: Rasul not being active this week is a bit of a mental blow for me. I talked myself in to being ok with him being inactive. I'm not chalking this game up as a loss, but it's going to be a tough one whether Rasul is in the lineup or not. If he's not familiar enough with the D, give him a week. Bring him out for Denver at home. That might have to be a "get back to winning" game. If he goes out unprepared at Cinci, just our luck he might end up getting hurt. This will be a game the Bills O will need to score 34-37 points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No_Matter_What Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 2 hours ago, GunnerBill said: All 3 are overpaid IMO. Would not have brought Phillips back, would have cut Settle, and Poona has been a disappointment. How many vet DTs has he missed on since being our GM? Needs to own his errors. I agree with you on his DT misses, but how exactly do you want him to "own his errors" other than he is doing right now when he is looking for someone else? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 26 minutes ago, MasterStrategist said: I thought he played 3-tech for Washington, for a time, and was disruptive. I'm sure he did at times. In a 4-3 he is a 3 tech. In a 3-4 he is a 5 tech. He is not a 1 tech, which is what we need, imo. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterStrategist Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 Just now, Einstein said: I'm sure he did at times. In a 4-3 he is a 3 tech. In a 3-4 he is a 5 tech. He is not a 1 tech, which is what we need, imo. Definitely not a true 1, from a run stuffing perspective. I think he's a good piece to move around up front on passing downs, likely what they're looking for him to help with (interior rush, other than Ed has been poor since losing Jones). Just confirmed he was a 3-tech at Wash, 3 games in 2020 (before injured) and all of 2021. Good depth for this time of year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted November 1, 2023 Author Share Posted November 1, 2023 25 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: Maybe: Elam to IR Ankou to 53 Another move _________? Suh to 53 (or PS) Loannidis to PS They can just use a call up on Ankou this week as well. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brand J Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 47 minutes ago, HappyDays said: I was just told Suh and Ioannidis will both be made official after their physicals. Not sure yet if it will be active roster or PS for them. I wonder if those two off the couch are better than Settle and Ford who have been getting live game reps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 Just now, JayBaller10 said: I wonder if those two off the couch are better than Settle and Ford who have been getting live game reps. I thought Ford looked good against the Bucs. Had back to back disruptive plays when Bucs were pinned deep 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPoy88 Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 32 minutes ago, Success said: I just don't get the mentality of listening to a GM speak, and immediately think "he's trying to trick us!" Probably because you’re not a paranoiac 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostbitmic Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 3 hours ago, balln said: Keep Personal stuff out of it its a big game for bills and every other player will play but the guy we traded for at a position of the others teams strength (wr) He needs to learn the finer nuances of playing 10 yards off the receiver on 3rd and 4. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 2 hours ago, Jauronimo said: Most teams don't fall to pieces after losing a defensive tackle. How about after losing a stud defensive tackle, all pro LB and CB1? 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heitz Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 (edited) 21 minutes ago, JoPoy88 said: Probably because you’re not a paranoiac Or, perhaps YOUR hat isn't tinfoily enough... 🤣 Edited November 1, 2023 by Heitz 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 45 minutes ago, NewEra said: How about after losing a stud defensive tackle, all pro LB and CB1? Is our defensive line getting blown off the line of scrimmage because Tre and Milano aren't out there? I'll need to see the Xs and Os on how that works. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 1 hour ago, JoPoy88 said: It’s not Ha getting old sucks 😂😂😂 3 hours ago, Wraith said: You're both wrong. Elam has been on the injury report since week 7 with an ankle injury. https://www.buffalobills.com/team/injury-report/week/REG-7 Well there’s that 😊 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 6 minutes ago, Jauronimo said: Is our defensive line getting blown off the line of scrimmage because Tre and Milano aren't out there? I'll need to see the Xs and Os on how that works. Do you really think the defensive line is the only cause for our defensive problems? Did our DL get blown off the ball vs TB? Vs The Giants? They certainly did vs the pats at times but the pats game plan was to have macnchz get rid of the ball in milliseconds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 I guess we weren't offered a 3rd for Elam then? MUKI deleted his tweet and the Mods removed the thread 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 21 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: I guess we weren't offered a 3rd for Elam then? MUKI deleted his tweet and the Mods removed the thread Gotta imagine someone told Muki to take that down and then the mods just deleted the post because the tweet no longer existed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 5 hours ago, balln said: Also - Douglas BETTER play. This is the freaking NfL. He’s played for 6 teams. We need to win THIS game. You can keep Ty Johnson or Josh Norman off the kickoff team. Spare me. If the bills D is THAT complex then I’m all in on defending elam from these coaches Yes, and when Ja’Marr Chase gets wide open for an easy TD because Douglas doesn’t have the playbook down yet and the communication was off we’ll all be glad McD forced him into the lineup. He’ll play when they’re confident he won’t be a liability. Grow up, man. Your posts in this thread are childish, to say the least. 1 2 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 4 hours ago, Jauronimo said: Most teams don't fall to pieces after losing a defensive tackle. Who is falling to pieces? Through 3 quarters Thursday night the defense was fine — even better than fine — and then a couple of stupid penalties and a lucky TD catch made that game close. Tampa’s first TD was like a 25 yard drive as well after the tipped INT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 30 minutes ago, eball said: Who is falling to pieces? Through 3 quarters Thursday night the defense was fine — even better than fine — and then a couple of stupid penalties and a lucky TD catch made that game close. Tampa’s first TD was like a 25 yard drive as well after the tipped INT. I think he might be talking about the Pats game. Defense definitely fell apart in that game. Never thought i'd see Mackorkle lead a 75 yard TD winning drive with a minute or so to go against us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 2 hours ago, No_Matter_What said: I agree with you on his DT misses, but how exactly do you want him to "own his errors" other than he is doing right now when he is looking for someone else? I think Brandon is generally pretty good at the end of the season at reflecting, owning where he has failed and adjusting. The one spot where I see less of that is his approach at DT where he keeps on every year going after these mid level vets to pad out the roster. I'd like to see them do something different next spring. If the likes of Eli Ankou, Justin Zimmer and whatever dumpster dive vet we get now in week 9 can come in and offer little to no drop off it tells you that continually cycling through these $3-6m contracts on veteran backups isn't a good allocation of resources. 2 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 31 minutes ago, eball said: Who is falling to pieces? Through 3 quarters Thursday night the defense was fine — even better than fine — and then a couple of stupid penalties and a lucky TD catch made that game close. Tampa’s first TD was like a 25 yard drive as well after the tipped INT. And the season highs in offense given up to Jacksonville and New England? Cincinnati's backup OL had their way with our defensive line in the post season without Daquan in the lineup. If you are of the opinion that 3 quarters against Tampa negate these other performances we can disagree. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 Just now, Jauronimo said: Cincinnati's backup OL had their way with our defensive line in the post season without Daquan in the lineup. They were missing more than DJones that day. I'm also reluctant to take anything meaningful out of that game. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CNYfan Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 I like to boost up rather than call "trash" but if they need a spot I don't think # 93 is that good. If he were released, they could sign him back later about any time they wanted I would think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 We all know if Elam was a good contributing player that there wouldn’t be any talk of him being shutdown. The ankle thing is an easy out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juno999 Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 16 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: I think Brandon is generally pretty good at the end of the season at reflecting, owning where he has failed and adjusting. The one spot where I see less of that is his approach at DT where he keeps on every year going after these mid level vets to pad out the roster. I'd like to see them do something different next spring. If the likes of Eli Ankou, Justin Zimmer and whatever dumpster dive vet we get now in week 9 can come in and offer little to no drop off it tells you that continually cycling through these $3-6m contracts on veteran backups isn't a good allocation of resources. Are you hinting at drafting a 1DT fairly high in the draft, say 2nd or 3rd round? That's what I'd like to see. Re- sign Jones to a 1 yr deal too. Draft WR in the first rd. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 1 hour ago, NewEra said: Do you really think the defensive line is the only cause for our defensive problems? Did our DL get blown off the ball vs TB? Vs The Giants? They certainly did vs the pats at times but the pats game plan was to have macnchz get rid of the ball in milliseconds. Lets not leave Jacksonville off the list. I think the defensive line is the primary issue. Without Daquan taking on two blockers we aren't seeing the penetration up the middle. QBs don't have to move off their spot, we aren't buying time for the edge rush to get home. This forces our CBs to cover longer. McDermott has sent extra pressure as a result, particularly against new england. Blitzing left easy completions. We played all of last year without a healthy Tre White. Dane + Benford is an adequate starting pair. Milano is great, no question. We miss him big time as Dorian gets abused on misdirection play. I think Daquan's role is more important than either Tre or Milano to the success of this defensive scheme. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No_Matter_What Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 18 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: I think Brandon is generally pretty good at the end of the season at reflecting, owning where he has failed and adjusting. The one spot where I see less of that is his approach at DT where he keeps on every year going after these mid level vets to pad out the roster. I'd like to see them do something different next spring. If the likes of Eli Ankou, Justin Zimmer and whatever dumpster dive vet we get now in week 9 can come in and offer little to no drop off it tells you that continually cycling through these $3-6m contracts on veteran backups isn't a good allocation of resources. Ok then I misunderstood you. If this is what you meant then I fully agree. I think this is his problem in general, since from time to time he also overpays other positions - Harty or Hines come to my mind recently and that is not a hindsight on my part. But at DT he is doing that constantly and it does a little sense. And it is hurting us a lot, that's quite a lot of cap space which could've been used more effectively or saved. I sure hope he learns next time. Like you said he's shown the ability. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 (edited) 28 minutes ago, Simon said: They were missing more than DJones that day. Micah Hyde, Von Miller, Daquan Jones and Damar Hamlin were all out. Jordan Poyer was playing hurt and left the game late 3rd quarter or very early 4th quarter. And Jordan Phillips played with 1 arm. Dean Marlow, Jaquan Johnson, Eli Ankou, and Cam Lewis all played significant snaps. Siran Neal had a handful too. . Edited November 1, 2023 by Einstein Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnBonhamRocks Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 Can’t they just give Douglas the Elam Notebook to get him up to speed? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 34 minutes ago, Jauronimo said: And the season highs in offense given up to Jacksonville and New England? Cincinnati's backup OL had their way with our defensive line in the post season without Daquan in the lineup. If you are of the opinion that 3 quarters against Tampa negate these other performances we can disagree. Just looking at the most recent performance, that’s all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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