Training Camp opens today! 2023 Season is upon us!

[FireChans]

8 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

1) I keep saying I think Kincaid is ready to take over Beasley's role in this offense from day one, but with much more upside and versatility. These (very) early camp reports are keeping that hope alive.

 

2) Dane Jackson gets first run at CB2.

 

3) Dodson gets first run at MLB.

Bills replacing Tremaine Edmunds with Tyrel Dodson is the biggest indictment on Tremaine Edmunds thus far lmao

[Bigvinny]

7 minutes ago, WhitewalkerInPhilly said:

Personally I'm finding the Taylor Rapp with the 1s to be interesting. 

He didn't take alot less money to come here and sit. He was told he would play.

[Chandler#81]

 

[Special K]

9 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

1) I keep saying I think Kincaid is ready to take over Beasley's role in this offense from day one, but with much more upside and versatility. These (very) early camp reports are keeping that hope alive.

 

 

Loved that the Bills were able to snag Kincaid in the draft....never thought he would still be available.

 

Really psyched to see to what levels he can take this already powerful Bills Offense!!

[The Wiz]

11 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

Was it personal that Allen threw that pick when diggs was covered or an internal issue?

[gobills404]

1 minute ago, FireChans said:

Bills replacing Tremaine Edmunds with Tyrel Dodson is the biggest indictment on Tremaine Edmunds thus far lmao

Yeah it’s not like we haven’t seen the huge drop off from Edmunds to Dodson several times over the past few years.

[NewEra]

7 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

Any updates about Torrance? Really hope he gets into that starting lineup. 

We all do- In my unprofessional opinion 70%  chance Bates starts the season. It’ll be on Torrance to get up to speed with the playbook very quickly.  I don’t think his talent will be enough to earn him the job.  In time it’ll be his job.  The sooner the better

[WhitewalkerInPhilly]

5 minutes ago, Bigvinny said:

He didn't take alot less money to come here and sit. He was told he would play.

I figured. I'm more wondering what we do with him. Are we replacing Taron as slot CB. Are we going to try to mask the absence of Edmunds by playing more Dime/Heavy nickel? 

[17islongenough]

Josh is out for blood

 

 

 

[WhitewalkerInPhilly]

1 minute ago, NewEra said:

We all do- In my unprofessional opinion 70%  chance Bates starts the season. It’ll be on Torrance to get up to speed with the playbook very quickly.  I don’t think his talent will be enough to earn him the job.  In time it’ll be his job.  The sooner the better

We can do a lot worse than Bates to have as the vet to beat for a rookie.

 

We should know, we have Bobby Hart. 

[Warcodered]

1 minute ago, 17islongenough said:

Josh is out for blood

 

 

 

Guess Josh will just have to watch the things he says it might piss off the media. 🤔

[Process]

Love hearing about Kincaid /new formations being used 

 

Dodson as starter for now, fine. Will be very disappointing if that's the case Week 1. 

 

3rd round picks on LBs last two years. Can't be burning picks on guys just to play ST. 

[Logic]

I can't help but wonder if Taylor Rapp and Taron Johnson will be on the field a lot more often than a second linebacker.

Essentially, a three-safety dime package, with Milano as the only true linebacker on the field.

Rapp and Johnson are both sound tacklers for defensive backs.

Sure, this look would be vulnerable against the run, but should theoretically be very tough to pass against.

Edited July 26, 2023 by Logic

[boyst]

i missed the info about Rapp starting? where, for who???

[Not at the table Karlos]

30 minutes ago, Dablitzkrieg said:

 

 

Von is a freak. 

[0017]

1 hour ago, NewEra said:

https://giphy.com/gifs/pong-wsobp-world-series-of-beer-SKcxqI1GiASU783uT2

 

i miss Giphy 😢 

What happened with GIFs? Any word? Will it ever come back? 

[mrags]

7 minutes ago, 0017 said:

What happened with GIFs? Any word? Will it ever come back? 

https://tenor.com/bTCPj.gif

[Buffalo_Stampede]

20 minutes ago, Logic said:

I can't help but wonder if Taylor Rapp and Taron Johnson will be on the field a lot more often than a second linebacker.

Essentially, a three-safety dime package, with Milano as the only true linebacker on the field.

Rapp and Johnson are both sound tacklers for defensive backs.

Sure, this look would be vulnerable against the run, but should theoretically be very tough to pass against.

Could be why they beefed up DT.

[WhitewalkerInPhilly]

20 minutes ago, Logic said:

I can't help but wonder if Taylor Rapp and Taron Johnson will be on the field a lot more often than a second linebacker.

Essentially, a three-safety dime package, with Milano as the only true linebacker on the field.

Rapp and Johnson are both sound tacklers for defensive backs. Sure, this look would be vulnerable against the run, but should theoretically be very tough to pass against.

You're not the only one who has thought about it. The drop off in LB play after Milano is noticable. Obviously situational football is necessary but I will not be at all surprised if we see a lot more. 

[Mark Vader]

32 minutes ago, NewEra said:

We all do- In my unprofessional opinion 70%  chance Bates starts the season. It’ll be on Torrance to get up to speed with the playbook very quickly.  I don’t think his talent will be enough to earn him the job.  In time it’ll be his job.  The sooner the better

There is no way that Torrance will be starting by week 1. He will need time, then by mid-season, we will see where he's at.

[BuffaloBillyG]

2 minutes ago, Mark Vader said:

There is no way that Torrance will be starting by week 1. He will need time, then by mid-season, we will see where he's at.

I could see a path to him starting week 1. I think he could flat out make it so the coaches can't take him off the field (much like Groot did his rookie year) or if any IOL guy is injured between now and then.

37 minutes ago, 17islongenough said:

Josh is out for blood

 

 

 

I approve of this message.

[Ya Digg?]

2 minutes ago, Mark Vader said:

There is no way that Torrance will be starting by week 1. He will need time, then by mid-season, we will see where he's at.

So obviously this has been going on for years with this staff, but why is that? Is the scheme so complicated that the rookies can’t grasp it? If so, things need to be uncomplicated-to me that’s a bad system. There are far too many rookies and second year players playing in other teams throughout the league for this to continually be an issue. It shouldn’t Already be a done deal that the team’s 2nd round pick won’t be a starter on the first day of training camp

[Mark Vader]

2 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

I could see a path to him starting week 1. I think he could flat out make it so the coaches can't take him off the field (much like Groot did his rookie year) or if any IOL guy is injured between now and then.

You could be right. I'd rather not see Torrance thrown to the wolves. Instead let him get used to the pro game.

 

Torrance has very good potential and there's no need to rush him.

[MikePJ76]

7 minutes ago, Mark Vader said:

There is no way that Torrance will be starting by week 1. He will need time, then by mid-season, we will see where he's at.

I don't understand this way of thinking.  He has the size and the talent and was drafted in the second round.  
He is the exact type of guy you want starting from day 1.

 

I will view it as a disappointment if he is not starting day 1.

[Clyde Smith]

1 hour ago, HappyDays said:

 

Hot take: it wasn't a misfire.

It looks like he has a strong chin.

[Mark Vader]

1 minute ago, MikePJ76 said:

I don't understand this way of thinking.  He has the size and the talent and was drafted in the second round.  
He is the exact type of guy you want starting from day 1.

 

I will view it as a disappointment if he is not starting day 1.

Prepare to be disappointed.

 

We have McGovern, Bates, Edwards & Boettger. They are all ahead of Torrance at this time.

[BuffaloBillyG]

1 minute ago, Mark Vader said:

You could be right. I'd rather not see Torrance thrown to the wolves. Instead let him get used to the pro game.

 

Torrance has very good potential and there's no need to rush him.

I get that thought as well. I'm of the side of getting him out early to gel with the line. Would be more comfortable with the idea if we had an old vet RT or if Brown bounces back. But he brings something skillwise that none of the guys in contention to start do. 

[MikePJ76]

Just now, Mark Vader said:

Prepare to be disappointed.

 

We have McGovern, Bates, Edwards & Boettger. They are all ahead of Torrance at this time.

well I expect that to change by the time the team starts preparing for week 1.  A month from now if he is not the starting right guard I see that as an issue.

[ExWNYer]

 

[Big Blitz]

On 7/26/2023 at 12:01 PM, Mark Vader said:

Prepare to be disappointed.

 

We have McGovern, Bates, Edwards & Boettger. They are all ahead of Torrance at this time.

 

 

 

 

 

Spencer Brown was an actual cone per the data.

Edited July 28, 2023 by Big Blitz

[Mark Vader]

6 minutes ago, Ya Digg? said:

So obviously this has been going on for years with this staff, but why is that? Is the scheme so complicated that the rookies can’t grasp it? If so, things need to be uncomplicated-to me that’s a bad system. There are far too many rookies and second year players playing in other teams throughout the league for this to continually be an issue. It shouldn’t Already be a done deal that the team’s 2nd round pick won’t be a starter on the first day of training camp

Yes, it would be great if all of our rookies could be starting or involved a lot from the beginning, just doesn't always happen.

I don't know why. We did have Spencer Brown was starting rather quickly as a rookie, but that might have been due to an injury.

[Mark Vader]

5 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

I get that thought as well. I'm of the side of getting him out early to gel with the line. Would be more comfortable with the idea if we had an old vet RT or if Brown bounces back. But he brings something skillwise that none of the guys in contention to start do. 

Oh, I want to see Torrance get as many reps as possible and a lot of playing time during preseason.

If he shows that he is ready for prime time, then by all means, let him start.

 

I'm just not expecting it.

[The Jokeman]

Just now, Mark Vader said:

Oh, I want to see Torrance get as many reps as possible and a lot of playing time during preseason.

If he shows that he is ready for prime time, then by all means, let him start.

 

I'm just not expecting it.

Nor me. 

[FLFan]

1 hour ago, without a drought said:

That should end it.

Nothing will end it at this point, I just hope he does give the media any more BS to speculate on.  

[wjag]

4 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:

 

 

 

Spencer Brown was an actual cone per the data.

Jeez.. An 8..  A whole 8.  Dawkins get a 91 because there was no reason to rush that side when the other side was an 8.  An 8!!!!

[JoPoy88]

6 minutes ago, MikePJ76 said:

well I expect that to change by the time the team starts preparing for week 1.  A month from now if he is not the starting right guard I see that as an issue.

well he’s a rookie so see whatever you want to see but the fact he probably won’t start week 1 means absolutely nothing in the grand scheme of things.

[CoffeeDrip]

Thanks for keeping us all updated! So pumped to have football again.

[MikePJ76]

1 minute ago, JoPoy88 said:

well he’s a rookie so see whatever you want to see but the fact he probably won’t start week 1 means absolutely nothing in the grand scheme of things.

of course I am not saying it means he has no future or something dumb like that.

 

What i am saying is that they needed better play inside and they drafted a guy with the size and ability to do just that.  There is no reason he should not start from day 1.  Day 1 means opening night.

 

if he doesn't then he probably has an issue with his ability or physical condition.  

 

I just think its nuts that people think he needs to be babied and spoonfed his way into the lineup.  He is playing the position that is the easiest to come in and play in the nfl.  I am confused by the type of thinking that he needs to come along slowly, guard is a spot you step right in and play, not a big deal for a decorated 2nd round pick.

[buffblue]

Wawrow already asking rambling questions to Diggs lol

[whorlnut]

12 minutes ago, MikePJ76 said:

well I expect that to change by the time the team starts preparing for week 1.  A month from now if he is not the starting right guard I see that as an issue.

An issue?  Haha. Not even close at this point. What’s an issue is Elam. He’s still behind Jackson and Benford, each of whom missed time last year to injuries. Not to mention that Benford was a dart throw at the wall in the 6th that keeps finding ways to get in front of the guy we traded up in the first to get. That’s the potential issue…not a second round RG that just finished his first training camp practice.