maddenboy Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 Just now, maddenboy said: Hall probably thinks: If you put THAT guy over me for OC, i see how it is In jacksonville, I get to Learn my ass off, from a SB winning head coach. with a whole different system maybe. And live in a warm tax free state. And leaving shows i am ambitious. Which is a good, manly, testosterone, leader-of-men type of trait in this league. So I'm showing it. And in terms of staying under Dorsey, while dorsey sucks, I say 'why should Hall make his resume Worse?' If youre gonna gtfo, now is the time. And wtf would he have learned under Dorsey anyway, except how to suck? In fairness, Hall could have learned everything to Not do, if Dorsey sucked. But that cuts against improving his resume, or implying Hall has a genius 3D chess type reason. Conspiracy Theory: Did Diggs want his WR coach to be elevated to OC instead of Dorsey? Which is why Hall ended up leaving? Which is why Diggs is like "Dammit !! I TOLD you." And maybe Diggs favored Hall's offensive concepts which were WR-coach-centered, versus Dorsey (former QB) and a qb-centered offense hmmmmm 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Junction Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 Just now, Einstein said: With Pederson, Hall will never be OC. You’re beating a dead horse. With Dorsey, Brady and Shula here Hall wasn’t going to get the position anyways. Hall has personal relationships with Pederson, Andy Reid, etc. His ultimate goal may be to move upwards with external promotions for other coaches he knows. None of us know exactly how he’s attempting to forward his career, but we can certainly gather that most coaching promotions partly stem from nepotism. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 10 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: I’m guessing. We’re all guessing. We don’t know why Diggs is upset. Only the homers guesses are allowed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 1 minute ago, Einstein said: Now THAT could be. That he felt insulted by Dorsey’s promotion. Or felt that Dorsey’s incompetence could lead to Hall’s downfall. ..or you could just listen to Hall and believe him. To each their own though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 Just now, Buffalo Junction said: You’re beating a dead horse. With Dorsey, Brady and Shula here Hall wasn’t going to get the position anyways. Hall has personal relationships with Pederson, Andy Reid, etc. His ultimate goal may be to move upwards with external promotions for other coaches he knows. None of us know exactly how he’s attempting to forward his career, but we can certainly gather that most coaching promotions partly stem from nepotism. Imagine if the Bills name Mike Shula OC. Ugh. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section122 Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 4 minutes ago, Einstein said: Because I watched some of their games. That is not a good team. Good coach though. 3 minutes ago, Einstein said: You never answered the question. You believe the Bills offered Hall a new contract and he decided to leave for the Jags? Jags have a reall easy argument for having a better wr crew than the Bills do. Paired with an offensive coach who can perhaps help him learn a different style. Perhaps he felt it was a better situation. I have no idea why someone choosing to live in florida over buffalo is that hard for you to believe. Or maybe the Bills didn't like the progress their young receivers were making and moved in a different direction. There are a million reasons it may have happened. Why so negative? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 4 hours ago, jletha said: I cant possibly understand what in the world Diggs could be protesting. He signed a new deal last year, hes on a top 3 offense with a top 3 QB. Whats the angle here? He wants to be traded...to where? He wants more money...based on what? Cut bait and sign Hopkins if this gets any uglier. He’s not on the madden cover? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 Just now, Einstein said: Only the homers guesses are allowed. Who has censored you, you poor wittle victim? Where have your posts been disallowed? 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 2 minutes ago, Buffalo Junction said: You’re beating a dead horse. With Dorsey, Brady and Shula here Hall wasn’t going to get the position anyways. Hall has personal relationships with Pederson, Andy Reid, etc. His ultimate goal may be to move upwards with external promotions for other coaches he knows. None of us know exactly how he’s attempting to forward his career, but we can certainly gather that most coaching promotions partly stem from nepotism. I love how some of you think Hall being on the same team as Pederson for 18 months over a decade ago means they have some great personal relationship lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 2 minutes ago, Einstein said: Only the homers guesses are allowed. You are incredibly insecure. Geezus. 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niagara Bill Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 This is Diggs, cut his ass or suspended him and sign replacement now. We knew this was coming...he wants to play with his bro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 Just now, DrDawkinstein said: Who has censored you, you poor wittle victim? Where have your posts been disallowed? Not holding the same view that he does is censorship in his mind. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 10 minutes ago, BillsPride12 said: This is actually beautiful timing, this is going to be a story for awhile and will completely overshadow Jack Eichel 🤮 winning the Stanley Cup tonight Honestly HATE how the NHL handles expansion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Junction Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 1 minute ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Imagine if the Bills name Mike Shula OC. Ugh. Fans might revolt. Makes a point though that both offensive staffs have a backlog of experience/talent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 2 minutes ago, Malazan said: ..or you could just listen to Hall and believe him. To each their own though. You expect Hall to say “The Bills didn’t want me anymore so I went to Jacksonville”? Would you do that, if it happened to you? 1 minute ago, Royale with Cheese said: You are incredibly insecure. Geezus. says the person who keeps responding to my posts 😂 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 1 hour ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Sounds like he’s returning to the facility. McDermott opened his big mouth and blew this up. Huh? That seems extremely concerning to me. McDermott is right. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPoy88 Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 1 minute ago, Niagara Bill said: This is Diggs, cut his ass or suspended him and sign replacement now. We knew this was coming...he wants to play with his bro Sure just cripple the salary cap because you don’t like his attitude. How very adult of you. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/37847104/coach-sean-mcdermott-very-concerned-stefon-diggs-not-bills-camp Hmmmm, interesting update..... 2 1 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damj Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 Just now, Virgil said: https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/37847104/coach-sean-mcdermott-very-concerned-stefon-diggs-not-bills-camp Hmmmm, interesting update..... Oh sh!t ... this is bad news. Thanks for sharing 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 Just now, Virgil said: https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/37847104/coach-sean-mcdermott-very-concerned-stefon-diggs-not-bills-camp Hmmmm, interesting update..... Why didnt McD say that to begin with!?!? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 Just now, Virgil said: https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/37847104/coach-sean-mcdermott-very-concerned-stefon-diggs-not-bills-camp Hmmmm, interesting update..... that’s wrong lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PBF81 Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 17 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: I do have a pair that I got when I was 8. I still have them but they're a little small. Maybe if I was in San Francisco, it would be appropriate to wear. San Fran ... you'd probably have to turn them into low-rise cut-offs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 2 minutes ago, Niagara Bill said: This is Diggs, cut his ass or suspended him and sign replacement now. We knew this was coming...he wants to play with his bro Why in the world would we want to cut his ass or suspend him? He's the second most important person on the team. Because he missed a day of minicamp? I'd rather have his whiny little prima donna ass on the team! 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLFan Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 1 minute ago, Virgil said: https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/37847104/coach-sean-mcdermott-very-concerned-stefon-diggs-not-bills-camp Hmmmm, interesting update..... Damn you! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 27 minutes ago, maddenboy said: why today though? the legal process moves slowly. There are daily flights to/from Dallas we do have video chat now i mean, even if his brother got re-arrested last night, that's what lawyers are for Even if today was super important for his brother, unless today was the first day of trial, And diggs tried to get the day off and the Bills said "no," And if Diggs was gonna attend his brother, why fly all the way to Buffalo for a half day? And why would JA feel the need to leak / tweet every hour if it were Diggs personal private family business. I mean, we all know how those issues are handled in the press for an excused absence due to personal issues. And those dont usually include flying all the way to the team facility for an hour, before going back home. Where is Josh Allen "leaking" or "tweeting" at all, much less "every hour"??? BTW Darez Diggs, not Trevon. LA, not Dallas. However, after watching Josh Allen's presser, I think it is likely internal team issues having to do with rules or expectations, and not personal issues for Diggs or his brother. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 (edited) Seems like a coaching question from Diggs. Do they have the freedom they had post snap from Daboll to Dorsey? Does Allen have veto power at the line to call what he want? These are some deeper questions. Based off Allen and Millers reactions vs Mcdermott’s, this feeling like Diggs has some offenseive questions. Mcdermott is obviously frustrated because this is coming from a guy who hasnt been in the building since January. I think giving Allen more control will be the compromise. Takes Dorsey off the hook a bit and allows Diggs more freedom and input with Allen ultimately responsible. Edited June 13, 2023 by Mat68 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 2 minutes ago, Virgil said: https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/37847104/coach-sean-mcdermott-very-concerned-stefon-diggs-not-bills-camp Hmmmm, interesting update..... Nice try Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPoy88 Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 2 minutes ago, Einstein said: You expect Hall to say “The Bills didn’t want me anymore so I went to Jacksonville”? Would you do that, if it happened to you? says the person who keeps responding to my posts 😂 Subject says something that supports Einstein’s narrative: ”TOLD YA SO! HOMERS!” Subject says something that disproves Einstein’s narrative: ”Obviously they’re lying/deflecting/obfuscating. You’d see that if you weren’t such a HOMER.” 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 2 minutes ago, PBF81 said: San Fran ... you'd probably have to turn them into low-rise cut-offs. I'm assuming I'm not wearing a shirt with this right look right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Junction Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 6 minutes ago, Einstein said: I love how some of you think Hall being on the same team as Pederson for 18 months over a decade ago means they have some great personal relationship lol. Probably because it came from the horses mouth… “Doug and I have always stayed in touch since 2010,” Hall said. “It’s almost like the same vibe. What he believes in, I believe in, I believe how he’s leading and his leadership is great. I’ve learned so much from him.” https://www.jacksonville.com/story/sports/nfl/2023/06/12/chad-hall-brings-enthusiasm-energy-to-jaguars-wide-receiver-room/70279989007/ 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 7 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: I'd argue that with Pederson, he has a much better chance of being an OC, since they wont have to lean on him to call plays. Or at least have Pederson there to help when needed. With the Bills, our OC is pretty much on their own. Especially with McD double-dipping as HC and DC. I’d argue that, too. Whereas in Buffalo, Hall would have to languish behind the sucky Dorsey and his 2nd ranked offense in points and yards. Which was accomplished with a QB who was injured half the season, btw. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 Just now, JoPoy88 said: Subject says something that supports Einstein’s narrative: ”TOLD YA SO! HOMERS!” Subject says something that disproves Einstein’s narrative: ”Obviously they’re lying/deflecting/obfuscating. You’d see that if you weren’t such a HOMER.” Just be honest with me. Do you really expect any NFL coach to admit that the team didn’t want him anymore? Did we not just see the Bills make an entire excuse up about Leslie Frazier taking a year off rather than firing him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 2 minutes ago, Beck Water said: Where is Josh Allen "leaking" or "tweeting" at all, much less "every hour"??? Pretty sure they're confused that they see tweets from other people quoting Allen and think it's him tweeting when it's all just stuff from the press conference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 2 minutes ago, Mat68 said: Seems like a coaching question from Diggs. Do they have the freedom they had post snap from Daboll to Dorsey? Does Allen have veto power at the line to call what he want? These are some deeper questions. Based off Allen and Millers reactions vs Mcdermott’s this feelings like Diggs has some offenseive questions. Mcdermott is obviously frustrated because this is coming from a guy who hasnt been in the building since January. I think giving Allen more control will be the compromise. Takes Dorsey off the hook a bit and allows Diggs more freedom and input with Allen ultimately responsible. Allen changes the play a lot, so I think the answer to that is absolutely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 (edited) 1 minute ago, Buffalo Junction said: Probably because it came from the horses mouth… “Doug and I have always stayed in touch since 2010,” Hall said. “It’s almost like the same vibe. What he believes in, I believe in, I believe how he’s leading and his leadership is great. I’ve learned so much from him.” https://www.jacksonville.com/story/sports/nfl/2023/06/12/chad-hall-brings-enthusiasm-energy-to-jaguars-wide-receiver-room/70279989007/ Yeah. That’s all stuff you say when get kicked off a contender because they don’t want you anymore. When Frazier gets hired somewhere he will talk about the connection he had with the head coach at X team. Doesn’t mean he wasn’t pushed out. You could probably find that same quote for every fired coach ever. They get fired and then go to a team where they knew the head coach X years ago. Edited June 13, 2023 by Einstein 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Beck Water Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 4 minutes ago, Mat68 said: Seems like a coaching question from Diggs. Do they have the freedom they had post snap from Daboll to Dorsey? Does Allen have veto power at the line to call what he want? These are some deeper questions. Based off Allen and Millers reactions vs Mcdermott’s, this feeling like Diggs has some offenseive questions. Mcdermott is obviously frustrated because this is coming from a guy who hasnt been in the building since January. I think giving Allen more control will be the compromise. Takes Dorsey off the hook a bit and allows Diggs more freedom and input with Allen ultimately responsible. How on earth do you go from "not football related" to "coaching question"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Junction Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 1 minute ago, Einstein said: Yeah. That’s all stuff you say when get kicked off a contender because they don’t want you anymore. When Frazier gets hired somewhere he will talk about the connected he had with the head coach at X team. Doesn’t mean he wasn’t pushed out. Please, for the rest of us…. Can you show us on the doll where McDermott hurt you? 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 Just now, Beck Water said: How on earth do you go from "not football related" to "coaching question"? Watch it be like... Diarrhea or something embarrasing. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 9 minutes ago, Virgil said: https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/37847104/coach-sean-mcdermott-very-concerned-stefon-diggs-not-bills-camp Hmmmm, interesting update..... Oh boy this is getting more serious than I thought. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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