Mike in Horseheads Posted May 22, 2023 Share Posted May 22, 2023 (edited) NFL owners have approved flexing for "Thursday Night Football" starting this season during Weeks 13 through 17. The change passed by a 24-8 vote, a source told ESPN's Adam Schefter, with the New York Giants, New York Jets, Green Bay Packers, Chicago Bears, Las Vegas Raiders, Detroit Lions, Cincinnati Bengals and Pittsburgh Steelers voting against it. Why did Pegula vote for this??? "Its all bout the fans " my ass Edited May 22, 2023 by Mike in Horseheads 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted May 22, 2023 Share Posted May 22, 2023 NFL owners are beholden to one thing only…the almighty dollar. Broadcast partners pay a lot of $$$$. 5 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No_Matter_What Posted May 22, 2023 Share Posted May 22, 2023 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Mike in Horseheads said: NFL owners have approved flexing for "Thursday Night Football" starting this season during Weeks 13 through 17. The change passed by a 24-8 vote, a source told ESPN's Adam Schefter, with the New York Giants, New York Jets, Green Bay Packers, Chicago Bears, Las Vegas Raiders, Detroit Lions, Cincinnati Bengals and Pittsburgh Steelers voting against it. Why didn't Pegula vote for this??? "Its all bout the fans " my ass I am confused by your post. Pegula did vote for the change, didn't he? Edited May 22, 2023 by No_Matter_What 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Horseheads Posted May 22, 2023 Author Share Posted May 22, 2023 3 minutes ago, No_Matter_What said: I am confused by your post. Pegula did vote for the change, didn't he? Good point AND I will edit should be why did 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted May 22, 2023 Share Posted May 22, 2023 28 minutes ago, Mike in Horseheads said: Why did Pegula vote for this??? "Its all bout the fans " my ass You got rid of the goat, and got a donkey?! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted May 22, 2023 Share Posted May 22, 2023 (edited) Flexing for crappy TNF makes sense. Either get rid of TNF altogether ( won’t happen) or have flexing so we don’t see DEN vs AZ or whatever. Edited May 22, 2023 by Boatdrinks 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted May 22, 2023 Share Posted May 22, 2023 🤮 Wish Terry was on the other side, even though it wouldn't make a difference. Especially since Buf has a good chance to be flexed But really the Bengals are the only team consistently good team that voted NO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted May 22, 2023 Share Posted May 22, 2023 5 minutes ago, JerseyBills said: 🤮 Wish Terry was on the other side, even though it wouldn't make a difference. Especially since Buf has a good chance to be flexed But really the Bengals are the only team consistently good team that voted NO Yay....just what I want the Bills to have late in the season...short rest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsGospel2014 Posted May 22, 2023 Share Posted May 22, 2023 43 minutes ago, Mike in Horseheads said: NFL owners have approved flexing for "Thursday Night Football" starting this season during Weeks 13 through 17. The change passed by a 24-8 vote, a source told ESPN's Adam Schefter, with the New York Giants, New York Jets, Green Bay Packers, Chicago Bears, Las Vegas Raiders, Detroit Lions, Cincinnati Bengals and Pittsburgh Steelers voting against it. Why did Pegula vote for this??? "Its all bout the fans " my ass He didnt become a billionaire listening to the likes of us that's for sure. 2 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted May 22, 2023 Share Posted May 22, 2023 49 minutes ago, Mike in Horseheads said: Why did Pegula vote for this??? "Its all bout the fans " my ass What's the issue? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Horseheads Posted May 22, 2023 Author Share Posted May 22, 2023 Just now, MJS said: What's the issue? They call this a regional franchise, people make plans from all over the country for a Sunday game. Now it gets moved to Thursday Night , thats my issue. It's not all about the fans as Roger would say its about the $$ 5 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haroldwaide Posted May 22, 2023 Share Posted May 22, 2023 They have to give a four week notice. Plenty of time to adjust travel plans. 1 1 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Info Posted May 22, 2023 Share Posted May 22, 2023 Bills: Week 13 bye Week 14 Chiefs, Sun Week 15 Cowboys, Sun Week 16 Chargers, Sat Week 17 Pats, Sun No way NFL is flexing Week 15 for Bills with a game on Sat. Bills will not be flexed weeks 13, 15 & 16. That leaves possibly weeks 14 & 17. But Pats suck so only week 14 may be in play but CBS may select that game so this may not impact the Bills at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GETTOTHE50 Posted May 22, 2023 Share Posted May 22, 2023 54 minutes ago, JerseyBills said: 🤮 Wish Terry was on the other side, even though it wouldn't make a difference. Especially since Buf has a good chance to be flexed But really the Bengals are the only team consistently good team that voted NO Bengals vote no for everything. Ralph was the same way 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted May 22, 2023 Share Posted May 22, 2023 1 hour ago, Mike in Horseheads said: They call this a regional franchise, people make plans from all over the country for a Sunday game. Now it gets moved to Thursday Night , thats my issue. It's not all about the fans as Roger would say its about the $$ Most fans watch on TV, so really it is about fans enjoying the only game on TV for that Thursday instead of having to watch some garbage match-up. They make more money, get better ratings, and fans get to watch a better game. Win-win-win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 Whatever they can do to give us more primetime Russel Wilson and Daniel Jones. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Horseheads Posted May 23, 2023 Author Share Posted May 23, 2023 3 hours ago, Mr Info said: Bills: Week 13 bye Week 14 Chiefs, Sun Week 15 Cowboys, Sun Week 16 Chargers, Sat Week 17 Pats, Sun No way NFL is flexing Week 15 for Bills with a game on Sat. Bills will not be flexed weeks 13, 15 & 16. That leaves possibly weeks 14 & 17. But Pats suck so only week 14 may be in play but CBS may select that game so this may not impact the Bills at all. 16 is a PPV on Peacock 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ya Digg? Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 3 hours ago, Mr Info said: Bills: Week 13 bye Week 14 Chiefs, Sun Week 15 Cowboys, Sun Week 16 Chargers, Sat Week 17 Pats, Sun No way NFL is flexing Week 15 for Bills with a game on Sat. Bills will not be flexed weeks 13, 15 & 16. That leaves possibly weeks 14 & 17. But Pats suck so only week 14 may be in play but CBS may select that game so this may not impact the Bills at all. There’s absolutely no chance the NFL would flex Bill Chiefs to a Thursday night. They aren’t having 2 of their top teams play on a short week-they want all week to hype that game up and give both teams a chance to have all of their starters ready to go 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterStrategist Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 3 hours ago, Mike in Horseheads said: They call this a regional franchise, people make plans from all over the country for a Sunday game. Now it gets moved to Thursday Night , thats my issue. It's not all about the fans as Roger would say its about the $$ Not sure what is difficult for you to grasp: 1. 4 week scheduling notice: this is plenty of time for fans, players, coaches, team personell/etc to adjust, if a game is flexed. 2. Quality of games: no fan wants to watch a meaningless Thursday night game late in the season. Let me ask, if your options are in Week 14, to watch the following on Thursday primetime, which would you pick? Game 1: team A 3-10 VS Team B 5-8 OR Game 2: team C 8-5 VS Team D 9-4 To me it's obvious. I'm picking Game 2 all day. And it is about the $$$ and the fans, BOTH. It's something that is a win-win. Better quality games as a fan, more viewership ($$s, which is part of revenue sharing and impacts future cap ceiling), for the tradeoff of potentially having to reschedule a hotel, sell/buy tix, and/or change vacation schedule. Easy decision. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 Immediate though - the trial basis is already over and it will expand in 2024. Second thought - all 32 owners are for it but they knew eight could save face with their fan bases. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPoy88 Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 5 hours ago, Mike in Horseheads said: NFL owners have approved flexing for "Thursday Night Football" starting this season during Weeks 13 through 17. The change passed by a 24-8 vote, a source told ESPN's Adam Schefter, with the New York Giants, New York Jets, Green Bay Packers, Chicago Bears, Las Vegas Raiders, Detroit Lions, Cincinnati Bengals and Pittsburgh Steelers voting against it. Why did Pegula vote for this??? "Its all bout the fans " my ass The fans (especially out of town fans) potentially get screwed yes but the bigger issue is making the players play more of these short weeks. It’s a wack change just to appease Amazon and it sucks. 2 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablitzkrieg Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 4 hours ago, Mike in Horseheads said: They call this a regional franchise, people make plans from all over the country for a Sunday game. Now it gets moved to Thursday Night , thats my issue. It's not all about the fans as Roger would say its about the $$ You'll be fine. Get over it 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPoy88 Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 5 minutes ago, Dablitzkrieg said: You'll be fine. Get over it nah. in most cases with the amount of whining that takes place on this board I’d normally agree with you but this is a bad change. It benefits nobody except the league and its bottom line. It potentially inconveniences fans and shifts more health risks to players. It’s not a good move. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 39 minutes ago, JoPoy88 said: nah. in most cases with the amount of whining that takes place on this board I’d normally agree with you but this is a bad change. It benefits nobody except the league and its bottom line. It potentially inconveniences fans and shifts more health risks to players. It’s not a good move. It does benefit the tv viewer as you're more likely to get a better/more meaningful game. However, I don't think that positive outweighs the negatives you laid out. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPoy88 Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: It does benefit the tv viewer as you're more likely to get a better/more meaningful game. However, I don't think that positive outweighs the negatives you laid out. more interesting thursday games is the only benefit to the generic fan watching on tv. But they’re not doing this for our benefit. It’s for Amazon. Edited May 23, 2023 by JoPoy88 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 1 minute ago, JoPoy88 said: more interesting thursday games is the only benefit to the generic fan watching on tv. But they’re not doing this for our benefit. It’s for Amazon. No argument from me but every move the NFL has made since its inception is motivated by maximizing profit. However, it's hard to argue it doesn't have a trickle down effect to the consumers given its popularity. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPoy88 Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 1 minute ago, Doc Brown said: No argument from me but every move the NFL has made since its inception is motivated by maximizing profit. However, it's hard to argue it doesn't have a trickle down effect to the consumers given its popularity. for sure agreed. I just think it’s funny that the league and its competition committee has been proposing and implementing all these unpopular rule changes in recent years (like the kickoff fair catch rule that everyone hates) in the name of player safety when what players want (and have said) most is more rest, no schedule expansion and NO more short weeks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefan66 Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 As a season ticket holder, not a fan of this. It is a money grab for the NFL to placate Amazon and provide them with good games. Screw the fans. I’m sure season ticket holders that can’t make the game will have to sell their tickets. I guess it’s a good thing for Buffalo now that we have a good team that is worth being flexed. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 (edited) 10 hours ago, haroldwaide said: They have to give a four week notice. Plenty of time to adjust travel plans. They give you time but they dont give you the time off of work if that is an issue for you. They dont give you delta travel costs if there are some. I understand what they are doing and I also understand why fans dont like it. Travel costs typically go up a month out and you can have less options. Edited May 23, 2023 by Matt_In_NH 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 10 hours ago, Mr Info said: Bills: Week 13 bye Week 14 Chiefs, Sun Week 15 Cowboys, Sun Week 16 Chargers, Sat Week 17 Pats, Sun No way NFL is flexing Week 15 for Bills with a game on Sat. Bills will not be flexed weeks 13, 15 & 16. That leaves possibly weeks 14 & 17. But Pats suck so only week 14 may be in play but CBS may select that game so this may not impact the Bills at all. Pretty sure week 14 and 15 are protected by CBS and FOX. Week 16 is Peacock, the only option here is week 17 and I don't see that happening today but there is a chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah John Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 10 hours ago, haroldwaide said: They have to give a four week notice. Plenty of time to adjust travel plans. No, that's not right. People get airline tickets months in advance to get good deals, and often those tickets are nonrefundable, or at least there's a large change fee involved. In fact there are probably people out there who already have plans and tickets in hand for the upcoming season. I think the league should have the crappy teams playing on TNF football, which hardly anyone watches anyway and which screws up teams' weekly routines. Teams should have to earn their way out of the TNF hell-hole by winning, to be rewarded with playing more games on Sunday or MNF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProcessTruster Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 13 hours ago, Boatdrinks said: Flexing for crappy TNF makes sense. Either get rid of TNF altogether ( won’t happen) or have flexing so we don’t see DEN vs AZ or whatever. Agree. Make TNF or any prime time night game decent or don't do it at all. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zow2 Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 It's just terrible for the fans that have tickets. So many people plan well in advance to attend certain NFL games in a specific city at a specific day/time. Even with 28 days, it's tough to just flip travel plans, plane/hotel, etc.. I'm not a fan of it. I get flexing a Sunday game to Sunday night or vice versa, but different days should be off limits. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 Bills probably won't be affected by this at all... Bye week 13 followed by two National games of the week at 4:25 on Fox and CBS which they will protect obviously, and then a Saturday night game against the Chargers which is ineligible. Only week 17 could be in play with Bills against Patriots but I doubt that will be the best game on the schedule that week and if it is, CBS will likely protect it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 14 hours ago, Boatdrinks said: Flexing for crappy TNF makes sense. Either get rid of TNF altogether ( won’t happen) or have flexing so we don’t see DEN vs AZ or whatever. TNF is a massive ratings hit every season, why would they get rid of it? Viewers love it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irv Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 These night home games are brutal if you live in Rochester. Guaranteed to get home at 3 or 4AM. Plus, Thursday is a work night. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Marangi Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 Should play games on Friday instead of Thursdays 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 Thursday games are almost always trash and the players hate them. It's all about the $ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsShredder83 Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 4 hours ago, MJS said: What's the issue? why would this change be good for teams or fans? SURPRISE! To Players: Surprise! Short rest this week! To Season Tix Fans: Surprise! Guess you cant go cause your boss sucks To Indiv Tix Holders Outta State: Surprise! Looks like you wasted flight money and cant go! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 Thursday night has problems that have nothing to with flexing. (MNF thrived for decades without it.) First, it’s on a ‘channel’ that many find to be complicated to access. Second, the scheduled games have been of suspect importance even before the season started. Finally, it’s on a night of the week that many are just too busy to devote the time to outside of the traditional football weekend. They can’t fix one or three but the second factor, the game lineup, could be fixed without flexing. It seems like Thursday has typically gotten the NFL’s cast off games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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